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  • Flash-hider

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    Agreed. There needs to be term limits and being a politician needs to not be a career / life choice. If you have to go HOME and live by the laws/taxes you create it would change things for the better I believe. Go serve your country for your term then go home and continue being a blacksmith. In this case go home and retire. But these people are programmed like .guv they need more money and more power and they can never have enough of either.
    Term limits create a revolving door. It's not going to solve who other voters in another district or state elect.
     

    Flash-hider

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    The problem is the amount of money behind these corrupt incumbents no one can afford to primary them. With ACTUAL term limits it would keep from one person having the the advantage of the incumbency and “good old boys” club.
    Just look to the State that is north of you and you will see that everything you think is corrected by term limits isn't. Not being difficult, just telling how it is.
     

    Flash-hider

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    I guess there is another glaring issue. The guv shouldn’t be so complicated that you need a degree to figure it out. Regulations / red tape / lawyer speak Maybe change the election cycles so old can train the new. All I know is the current system is NOT working. Corruption runs deep.
    The trouble began over a hundred years ago when the progressive ideology began getting elected. The disciples of this believed in building the strength of the central government, creating programs that would build a voter base into perpetuity, taxing the working(middle) class into extinction, and controlling the populace through regulation.
     

    BugI02

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    I'm wondering if this sudden incapacitation in a fall isn't a ploy to sit out a senate without Feinstein and Fetterman, where he might have to vote his paymaster's priorities over America's and in so doing interfere with his plans to be re-elected republican leader in the senate
     

    Shadow01

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    I guess there is another glaring issue. The guv shouldn’t be so complicated that you need a degree to figure it out. Regulations / red tape / lawyer speak Maybe change the election cycles so old can train the new. All I know is the current system is NOT working. Corruption runs deep.
    when it collapses completely, it can be raised from the ashes in a better form…
     

    Shadow01

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    Lobbying is one way the people can come together to leverage their common interest petitioning elected officials. To take that away would simply be taking constitutional rights away.

    Pretend what is not happening? Quid pro quo? I am not that naive to think it does not happen but they have found ways to not need to do the illegal.
    The fix for lobbying is to make it illegal to lobby without the entire discussion with politicians being video recorded and open to the general public for live viewing as the meetings take place. The setting should be the same as open hearings in congress. Nothing good for citizens is ever lobbied under secrecy.
     

    Tombs

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    The fix for lobbying is to make it illegal to lobby without the entire discussion with politicians being video recorded and open to the general public for live viewing as the meetings take place. The setting should be the same as open hearings in congress. Nothing good for citizens is ever lobbied under secrecy.

    How are you going to enforce that?

    No cop is going to walk in and arrest them. The public could already implement this without the need for a law, but the public is too comfortable to care about keeping politicians under control.
     

    Shadow01

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    How are you going to enforce that?

    No cop is going to walk in and arrest them. The public could already implement this without the need for a law, but the public is too comfortable to care about keeping politicians under control.
    Well we as a society allow child services to force their way into personal family business with a random unproven accusation. We can create a new civilian ran department to investigate any accusations made against politicians or lobbyists involved in meetings or general conversations outside the rules set down for all lobbying with the ability to detain and legally charge either party with a crime and have them prosecuted. Basically we can use the child services model to enforce any lobbying rules put in place. And don’t tell me we can’t be walking out politicians and lobbyists for detainment when we allow CS to take children from homes with no valid determination of guilt On the part of parents. We do it for the safety of the children. We can also make this work for the “safety of our democracy“
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    edporch

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    The trouble began over a hundred years ago when the progressive ideology began getting elected. The disciples of this believed in building the strength of the central government, creating programs that would build a voter base into perpetuity, taxing the working(middle) class into extinction, and controlling the populace through regulation.
    And this, combined with the ratification of the 16th and 17th Amendments did a lot to help a runaway federal government to grow in power.
    16th (1913) - Allowing a federal Income Tax.
    17th (1913) - Senators are now elected directly by the people and not the state governments.
    This robbed the state governments of representation, which was what the Senate was created for.
     

    Ingomike

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    The only reason these dinosaurs are even still in office is because they know where the bodies are buried
    They definitely aren't the best qualified for the job. Their staffers just walk them through everything including eating their jello
    A question to all of you.

    How many 85+ employees are there where you work?
     
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