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Not all, though I certainly can.
Sorry, didn't mean to step on any toes. Apparently I had the timeline wrong.
USAC looked the other way much more often than the moderators do here.
A general comment regarding recent events:
I tend to ask "is INGO a better place with or without (insert banned username)?" when someone bites the dust here. Generally the answer is "with"; it's rare that any individual has literally nothing to offer (or has truly negative and destructive intent). In the case of the two most recent and notable bannings, I think the answer to this question is obvious, and that's a shame. INGO loses a tiny bit of its soul whenever nearly anyone is banned.
This is, of course, a much different and more difficult question than "are the INGO moderators' jobs easier with or without (insert banned username)?, or " is (insert banned username) harming the community (which could mean anything from harming other members--words can do that--to harming the site by discouraging posting, joining, or advertising here). This is why I will never have interest in moderating such a site as this. I do appreciate the difficulty and thankless nature of the position and know I don't have the makeup to volunteer to do it.
I tend to ask "is INGO a better place with or without (insert banned username)?" when someone bites the dust here. Generally the answer is "with"; it's rare that any individual has literally nothing to offer (or has truly negative and destructive intent). In the case of the two most recent and notable bannings, I think the answer to this question is obvious, and that's a shame. INGO loses a tiny bit of its soul whenever nearly anyone is banned.
This is, of course, a much different and more difficult question than "are the INGO moderators' jobs easier with or without (insert banned username)?, or " is (insert banned username) harming the community (which could mean anything from harming other members--words can do that--to harming the site by discouraging posting, joining, or advertising here). This is why I will never have interest in moderating such a site as this. I do appreciate the difficulty and thankless nature of the position and know I don't have the makeup to volunteer to do it.
I will miss 88GT, for sure. I liked her wit and her wisdom. Bummer. Big bummer.
Sometimes it's hard to let things go when you feel like you've invested so much.
Sad, really.
Sometimes it's hard to let things go when you feel like you've invested so much.
Sad, really.
Passion can really drive people to extremes, both positive and negative.
A point to add to my post, above, is that moderators have to weigh the balance of all three questions I posed (and certainly more). A truly vindictive moderator would never last at a well-managed web site. I'm sure they don't enjoy that aspect any more than most of us enjoy INGO without friends, cyber-acquaintenances, and, occasionally even siblings.
A point to add to my post, above, is that moderators have to weigh the balance of all three questions I posed (and certainly more). A truly vindictive moderator would never last at a well-managed web site. I'm sure they don't enjoy that aspect any more than most of us enjoy INGO without friends, cyber-acquaintenances, and, occasionally even siblings.
It doesn't appear "duplicated" (even "somewhat") at all. The sub-forum layout makes it easier to find important legal stuff and the "Wiki" section is an awesome idea.
Did you just call me a lesbian? Should I report that as attacking another member? Or were you just trying to be funny?
...and suddenly a few more readers were enlightened about the SSDD hammer.
I'm glad to hear that you are taking a very balanced view of what is involved in both moderation in general and bans in particular. You could easily have taken a different track and gone off the deep end if you chose to. One additional item to keep in mind is that there are always additional discussions and communications that go on behind the scenes. As regular members, we rarely know the whole story.
If you're talking about the "reaching out to members" to warn them aspect...
No...no, not always.
In this case, I do, but I'll not discuss it in further detail.
shibumiseeker
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De nada. The situation was attempted to be rewritten by some but the timestamps speak for themselves. I try to stay out of it mostly.
Why do you say that?
88GT was seriously banned for being "negative"?
This is really sad. I have been watching things unfold for a while now but have never seen anything that I would consider ban worthy. 88GT had a lot to offer in this forum, not the least of which was her being a realtor, and having great advice for people asking about flipping property or becoming landlords.
I did not always agree with her views on issues and we went back and forth a couple times but she was always well spoken and had a great ability to express her opinion.
Sad that is now gone because of some mod butthurt.
This is really sad. I have been watching things unfold for a while now but have never seen anything that I would consider ban worthy. 88GT had a lot to offer in this forum, not the least of which was her being a realtor, and having great advice for people asking about flipping property or becoming landlords.
I did not always agree with her views on issues and we went back and forth a couple times but she was always well spoken and had a great ability to express her opinion.
Sad that is now gone because of some mod butthurt.
Attacking? If anything, that's a compliment
GT's original inbox epiphany comment was one of the more humorous things I've read here.
Since it happens behind the scenes you really can't honestly say that. You might have been TOLD how things went down by the person in question, but I assure you that is not how it usually happens..
Seriously?
Again, if we banned people every time they criticized, belittled, insulted, cussed at, etc a Mod, we'd have a couple hundred less members.
As for "but have never seen anything that I would consider ban worthy", yet, again... you do not see all that goes on behind the scenes.
eldirector
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Just got caught up on this thread. What a bummer. 
Just another reminder to "toe the line', I suppose.
Just another reminder to "toe the line', I suppose.
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