THE CZickness LI.....Shooting for a Summer to Remember

[MindfulMan]

In the hammock....my chi is solid !

 

[Born2vette]

P38 for $570 anyone?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/walther-p38-9mm-4-9-8rd-german-made-military-surplus-good-condition-hgp38.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230810&utm_term=afternoon&utm_content=

 

[Benp]

Indeed they are. I’m a sucker for black cats. Here is my monster cat Bocephus not letting me get any work done the other day. All mine are tuxedo/maincoon mixes. He’s my boy. About 25 lbs

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Here is ours.

 

[Benp]

CZ!

 

[mcapo]

CZ!

 

[mcapo]

P38 for $570 anyone?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/walther-p38-9mm-4-9-8rd-german-made-military-surplus-good-condition-hgp38.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230810&utm_term=afternoon&utm_content=

Steel frame for same price, please.

 

[mcapo]

P38 for $570 anyone?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/walther-p38-9mm-4-9-8rd-german-made-military-surplus-good-condition-hgp38.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230810&utm_term=afternoon&utm_content=

HA! $549!

Who's the boss now???

AimSurplus, LLC

 

[gmcttr]

CZ...And the guardian cat.

 

[Leadeye]

P38 for $570 anyone?

https://palmettostatearmory.com/walther-p38-9mm-4-9-8rd-german-made-military-surplus-good-condition-hgp38.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20230810&utm_term=afternoon&utm_content=

Decent guns I remember when they first hit the US you could get them with a nice flap holster in a box for $110 per in lots of three. They were at gun shows everywhere.

 

[Leadeye]

Steel frame for same price, please.

I've got a few steel frame WW2 guns, good shooters, and I've always been impressed with the durability of those Bakelite grips. They hold up well for such an early plastic.

 

[MindfulMan]

Sunset at the oasis !


CZ....CZ......CZ.....!!!!!!!!

 

[88E30M50]

I'd love to grab a P38 at that price but I'm still saving pennies for a radio. And power supply. And antenna. And a mast to put the antenna on. And... and... and...

What idiot was it that said radios were a cheap hobby compared to pistols?

 

[Born2vette]

Interesting post on another forum. Very sad if even half is true.

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[DadSmith]

Good morning INGO.

 

[wtburnette]

Morning all...

 

[radar8756]

Morning ... should be a nice day to run errands

 

[patience0830]

Miserable corksackers at Colt.

 

[mcapo]

Interesting post on another forum. Very sad if even half is true.

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Ehh...corporate turnover...nothing new here but no question that CZ as a US brand has matured. For sake of argument, let's say that the Golden Age of CZ/USA was 1990 to 2020 - that is a pretty good run. Their product line has also matured and, aside from a P365 style firearm, the pistol side isn't missing much. You can get anything from a $400 P10C to a $3500 Czechmate. Sure 10mm and 45 offerings would be nice but the market is 9mm.

Rifles....yeah....the 600 line doesn't seem to be a step forward and used prices on 527/550s would seem to indicate that the market shares that view. Why oh WHY did I not buy a couple back in the day....

Dan Wesson is also in the same boat. "Back in the day" DW was an amazing pistol for money; now that prices have jumped, they may still have all the quality but sure not the bang-for-buck. The DWX is pretty exciting. I think it would have been a huge hit had it been released on time but the post-covid 2011 resurgance stole its thunder and market share.

Colt - I haven't seen any evidence that the CZ buyout has hurt Colt. How could it? LOL! Based on the very little that I have read, it seems to indicate that, at worst, Colt QC has smoothed out.

So....JM Marlins, Pre-Lock SWs, pre-disaster Remingtons, pre-stupidity Colts etc. CZ prices on GB for certain "Golden Era" models would already indicate that "pre-Colt" models are collectible. Collectors buy collectiblity - not quality (though they can be one in the same). So, keep your Golden Age CZs, buy more if you can; buy any new one that tickles your fancy and let's see what R&D comes up with.

Anyway...don't know that I have a point to make but my coffee is empty....

CZ!

 

[Benp]

Morning all!
Mcapo, looks like you are well awake already!

 

[wingrider1800]

Ehh...corporate turnover...nothing new here but no question that CZ as a US brand has matured. For sake of argument, let's say that the Golden Age of CZ/USA was 1990 to 2020 - that is a pretty good run. Their product line has also matured and, aside from a P365 style firearm, the pistol side isn't missing much. You can get anything from a $400 P10C to a $3500 Czechmate. Sure 10mm and 45 offerings would be nice but the market is 9mm.

Rifles....yeah....the 600 line doesn't seem to be a step forward and used prices on 527/550s would seem to indicate that market shares that view. Why oh WHY did I not buy a couple back in the day....

Dan Wesson is also in the same boat. "Back in the day" DW was an amazing pistol for money; now that prices have jumped, they may still have all the quality but sure not the bang-for-buck. The DWX is pretty exciting. I think it would have been a huge hit had it been released on time but the post-covid 2011 resurgance stole it thunder and market share.

Colt - I haven't seen any evidence that the CZ buyout has hurt Colt. How could it? LOL! Based on the very little that I have read seems to indicate that, at worst, Colt QC has smoothed out.

So....JM Marlins, Pre-Lock SWs, pre-disaster Remingtons, pre-stupidity Colts etc. CZ prices on GB for certain "Golden Era" models would already indicate that "pre-Colt" models are collectible. Collectors buy collectiblity - not quality (though they can be one in the same). So, keep your Golden Age CZs, buy more if you can; buy any new one that tickles your fancy and let's see what R&D comes up with.

Anyway...don't know that I have a point to make but my coffee is empty....

CZ!

The master has spoken. After reading that I had to make sure that I wasn't in the political thread.