The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

[Kutnupe14]

sounds like more left BS to me.....

Regardless, the wheels seem to be coming off the wagon. The president's support seems to be pretty much confined to the die-hards. North Korea seems to be a failure. Russia is ignoring him. He's ridiculed daily internationally. His "best people" seem to be anything but. He's ranting about prosecutions, with the belief that the DoJ should be protecting Republicans from prosecution due to political considerations. His wife is MIA. He's in the midst of what seems to be an unwinnable trade war.... and the unflattering stories keep leaking out of the WH.

 

[ghitch75]

Regardless, the wheels seem to be coming off the wagon. The president's support seems to be pretty much confined to the die-hards. North Korea seems to be a failure. Russia is ignoring him. He's ridiculed daily internationally. His "best people" seem to be anything but. He's ranting about prosecutions, with the belief that the DoJ should be protecting Republicans from prosecution due to political considerations. His wife is MIA. He's in the midst of what seems to be an unwinnable trade war.... and the unflattering stories keep leaking out of the WH.

ok

 

[Trigger Time]

Regardless, the wheels seem to be coming off the wagon. The president's support seems to be pretty much confined to the die-hards. North Korea seems to be a failure. Russia is ignoring him. He's ridiculed daily internationally. His "best people" seem to be anything but. He's ranting about prosecutions, with the belief that the DoJ should be protecting Republicans from prosecution due to political considerations. His wife is MIA. He's in the midst of what seems to be an unwinnable trade war.... and the unflattering stories keep leaking out of the WH.

Oh really? I didnt notice because I've been watching the left totaly implode and self destruct and try to destroy the Republic and everything it stands for.
Trump has plenty of good people who would be loyal and competent to stand with him. The swamp is imploding. The fake big government Republicans are melting down not the true conservatives that support the President.
The president and the Republicans will have a blowout win this November, you and I will have dinner. And then things will stay crazy till 2020 when trump beats their ass again and then the left is really gonna melt Down.

 

[mmpsteve]

Interesting times ... I do believe it's Turkey Time. p.s. The Kavanaugh hearings are amusing.

p.s.s.: Mr. K., I think some of your observations are premature. I'm hoping for better outcomes than you project.

 

[d.kaufman]

Regardless, the wheels seem to be coming off the wagon. The president's support seems to be pretty much confined to the die-hards. North Korea seems to be a failure. Russia is ignoring him. He's ridiculed daily internationally. His "best people" seem to be anything but. He's ranting about prosecutions, with the belief that the DoJ should be protecting Republicans from prosecution due to political considerations. His wife is MIA. He's in the midst of what seems to be an unwinnable trade war.... and the unflattering stories keep leaking out of the WH.

Guess im not seeing what your seeing, but then again I don't watch cnn or msnbc and the like.

 

[Leadeye]

if this is true then why doesn't the chicken **** show there face and there name????

Such person may not actually exist, we'll just have to see how it plays out.

 

[Route 45]

 

[T.Lex]

So, the offshore betting (at least one of them) is putting Pence as favorite to be the author, based on the word "lodestar." I would actually be impressed if it is him. I just don't think he has enough of his own principled political compass to take the positions espoused in the piece.

I think its someone more connected to foreign policy, from the tone and the examples.

There is still the possibility that it is a fake news thing, that it was written by someone unconnected to the administration. But that's a longshot. The NYT would TOTALLY trash its reputation if that's the case. Another possibility is that it is someone who merely wanted to create another distraction. If that's the case: Mission Accomplished. Trump's gotta be losing his marbles over this.

The internal parlor game among the courtiers is going to be wild.

Also, on a more personal note, I can absolutely relate to why someone would think those things, rationalize those things, and even do some of those things. What you DON'T do is publish an op-ed talking about it.

 

[jamil]

That would just make Rosenstein de facto AG. I don’t think even Trump believes he could confirm anybody else right now. Trump may be hoping he can shame him into maybe finding something else to do besides fratricide. Maybe something to do with the thick cloud of deep state corruption surrounding the DoJ and FBI

If Republicans hold House and Senate, he’ll be gone so fast he’ll catch fire from friction on the way out the door

I suppose that’s one way to spin it if you’re going to keep the godplex perception intact. But there’s no rational reasoning for Trump whining like a little ***** about his own employee, as if he’s powerless. Maybe T.Lex is right about the reasoning, but it’s still irrational. If Trump can’t get an AG confirmed by his own party, maybe he needs to up his viagra dose.

 

[foszoe]

So, the offshore betting (at least one of them) is putting Pence as favorite to be the author, based on the word "lodestar." I would actually be impressed if it is him. I just don't think he has enough of his own principled political compass to take the positions espoused in the piece.

I think its someone more connected to foreign policy, from the tone and the examples.

There is still the possibility that it is a fake news thing, that it was written by someone unconnected to the administration. But that's a longshot. The NYT would TOTALLY trash its reputation if that's the case. Another possibility is that it is someone who merely wanted to create another distraction. If that's the case: Mission Accomplished. Trump's gotta be losing his marbles over this.

The internal parlor game among the courtiers is going to be wild.

Also, on a more personal note, I can absolutely relate to why someone would think those things, rationalize those things, and even do some of those things. What you DON'T do is publish an op-ed talking about it.

It will help sell the memoirs

 

[BugI02]

So, the offshore betting (at least one of them) is putting Pence as favorite to be the author, based on the word "lodestar." I would actually be impressed if it is him. I just don't think he has enough of his own principled political compass to take the positions espoused in the piece.

I think its someone more connected to foreign policy, from the tone and the examples.

There is still the possibility that it is a fake news thing, that it was written by someone unconnected to the administration. But that's a longshot. The NYT would TOTALLY trash its reputation if that's the case. Another possibility is that it is someone who merely wanted to create another distraction. If that's the case: Mission Accomplished. Trump's gotta be losing his marbles over this.

The internal parlor game among the courtiers is going to be wild.

Also, on a more personal note, I can absolutely relate to why someone would think those things, rationalize those things, and even do some of those things. What you DON'T do is publish an op-ed talking about it.

Gaslighting. Make him doubt the people still loyal to him, the office and/or the country (I’m assuming there are at least a couple)

 

[jamil]

Gaslighting. Make him doubt the people still loyal to him, the office and/or the country (I’m assuming there are at least a couple)

It's possible that the op ed was written by someone on the left, who is claiming to be in the administration. It's also possible it's legit.

 

[printcraft]

Regardless, the wheels seem to be coming off the wagon. The president's support seems to be pretty much confined to the die-hards. North Korea seems to be a failure. Russia is ignoring him. He's ridiculed daily internationally. His "best people" seem to be anything but. He's ranting about prosecutions, with the belief that the DoJ should be protecting Republicans from prosecution due to political considerations. His wife is MIA. He's in the midst of what seems to be an unwinnable trade war.... and the unflattering stories keep leaking out of the WH.

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[T.Lex]

For the NYT to say they've confirmed the person is actually in the administration, that kinda becomes an Occam's Razor kind of thing.

There's another possibility: Trump authorized it. He's not above planting distraction stories in news outlets. He could tell SHS to author something and "leak" it and she'd totally do it. Or any number of others.

I think that's a bit of a longshot, too, but possible.

 

[foszoe]

It's possible that the op ed was written by someone on the left, who is claiming to be in the administration. It's also possible it's legit.

It can also have been written with the president's knowledge and hope that they smoke out people in the administration that they feel are working against them

 

[Fargo]

For the NYT to say they've confirmed the person is actually in the administration, that kinda becomes an Occam's Razor kind of thing.

There's another possibility: Trump authorized it. He's not above planting distraction stories in news outlets. He could tell SHS to author something and "leak" it and she'd totally do it. Or any number of others.

I think that's a bit of a longshot, too, but possible.

I can’t see the man being willing to leak something this critical of himself. If it was an inside deal, there would be way more head nods to his magnificence.

I am going to guess that it is someone in probably the second/third tier of the administration, probably not someone publicly well-known, and who has decided that this is going to how he is going to become really well-known down the road.

It is the job of a senior advisor to try and help the decisionmakers moderate their worst impulses, this however just reeks of backstabbing rat usurping the constitutional role of the executive.

 

[Birds Away]

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Exactly.

 

[T.Lex]

This constitutional thing is a dog whistle to me. Any administration of any size has different "affinity groups" (my phrase). People who tend to like each other more, or be more aligned philosophically, or have a better sync about what to do and how to do it. These groups can sometimes be at odds with each other. All of them try to influence or guide the decisionmaker on the thousands of decisions that he or she really doesn't care about, but need to approve.

That doesn't make it a cabal.

There wasn't anything in the op-ed that makes me think there is an unconstitutional, unelected oligarchy running the government. That WOULD be the deep state.

 

[Leadeye]

The people making the big decisions work in the big dc law/lobby firms and they don't make them for free.

 

[Trigger Time]

Interesting. I don't think he has the fortitude to do such a thing.

Mike pence is more loyal than that. Mike pence isnt a coward either.

Whoever this person is they are a traitor. Maybe not the constitutional definition of treason but a traitor to the office of the president. Whoever this is should be blacklisted by the Republican party. But they wont be. Politics as usual.
If I were the president I would be taking some very specific steps to out this RAT.

The "old guard" of the Republican party has lead it astray from the core principals and spirit of the Republican party. It MUST return to that. I'll admit that it still is more American than the Democrats. But I hope a 3rd party comes from all of this. And not a socialist one (that's already the democrats) I'm talking a fresh new party in the middle that truly cares about constitutional law and traditions of this republic that made it so great. When we stray from that we all lose.