Downtown Indy Riots/damage overnight...

[T.Lex]

illuminists? I have to say this was an unexpected twist from where I thought you were going with it.

Told ya!

 

[BigRed]

Alright, I'll bite.

Why should BLM care about nuclear families when absenteeism of fathers is so prevalent and accepted in black communities?

Was Mr. Floyd married to his baby-mama? Does it matter?


This very morning I was discussing with a black friend of mine the acceptance of criminality in black culture. Now there is a sticky subject.


He has chosen his life as he saw best. No judgement. Statement of fact: Six kids, five baby-mama, never married. It was just the way things worked out.

I accept that it does not follow my upbringing. He thinks I missed out on life.


I am just left confused that since it is not a choice that I would make that it automatically means that I am guilty of something.

What am I guilty of? I might answer, "Making better choices involving personal responsibility". But that is not acceptable as it implies (if not directly points out) that I believe the other person made a mistake.

How are we ever to be a positive example if we can never claim to make good choices?

Crazy world

Not trying to get anyone to "bite".... just highlighting what Black Lives Matters is about.

 

[jamil]

Well, that's closer. (And hey, my college degree finally comes in useful!) The "Bolsheviks" started much earlier than the October (or November, depending on your calendar) Revolution. That moniker was related to which group would decide policy for the larger Socialist movement in Russia. (And this is where my memory fades....) or are we talking about the failed revolution that was earlier in the 1900s, after Russia lost the Russo-Japanese war? (I think that was 1905.)

The Kerensky government was provisional and didn't have anything near a mandate. It basically filled the vacuum after the abdication.

Either way, what we're in doesn't appear to have any relation to that. At least not to me.

No, we're talking about the October revolution.

 

[T.Lex]

No, we're talking about the October revolution.

Ah, ok.

So, at the risk of an own-goal, I guess if one thinks that the GOP and the Dems are all on the same "side" of socialism, but just different factions, then the Dems might be the Bolsheviks, with the GOP playing the role of the Mensheviks, at least at the party level. Since Trump really isn't part of either party, he'd be in the Kerensky role, after the "abdication" of both parties in the 2016 cycle by not putting up a decent candidate.

I don't know... that's about as far as I can get with the analogy. Which still isn't literal.

 

[bwframe]

I wonder how much this term, "systematic racism," can be applied to generations of black youths bringing raised to hate cops?

When those protest leaders came away from the governor's mansion hugging the cop, two of them said that they were raised to hate cops.

How much of this generational mentality effects perception in the black community?

 

[Karl-just-Karl]

Not trying to get anyone to "bite".... just highlighting what Black Lives Matters is about.

Fair enough. I'm just feeling "edgy".

It has just become a world of swirl to me.

Half-truths, reconstructed stories, facts that change daily.

Covid19, convicted felons treated as a national hero because some dumb*ss cop decided he wasn't going to be told what to do.

Rioters posing as looters, looters posing as rioters, calls to disband police departments....

I think I need a vacation.

 

[2A_Tom]

South Africa was a very sparsley populated open plain country. A few dutchmen landed there and started farming. They introduced irrigation and modern farming methods and they built cities. They did not close the country to immigration. The country was flooded with impoverished immigrants who came for jobs and a better life than they had in their homelands.

Sound familiar?

Apartheid was a measure taken to keep what is going on today from happening. I am not condoning it.

What will we do in order to keep our country from going to Hell?

 

[BigRed]

What will we do in order to keep our country from going to Hell?

I am good with property owners shooting the looters and rioters when inflicting damage to their property as a first step. Open to suggestions for the second.

 

[T.Lex]

South Africa was a very sparsley populated open plain country. A few dutchmen landed there and started farming. They introduced irrigation and modern farming methods and they built cities. They did not close the country to immigration. The country was flooded with impoverished immigrants who came for jobs and a better life than they had in their homelands.

Sound familiar?

Hmmmm... I'm bailing from this distraction at this point. G'luck.

 

[jamil]

Ah, ok.

So, at the risk of an own-goal, I guess if one thinks that the GOP and the Dems are all on the same "side" of socialism, but just different factions, then the Dems might be the Bolsheviks, with the GOP playing the role of the Mensheviks, at least at the party level. Since Trump really isn't part of either party, he'd be in the Kerensky role, after the "abdication" of both parties in the 2016 cycle by not putting up a decent candidate.

I don't know... that's about as far as I can get with the analogy. Which still isn't literal.

You didn’t need to get that far. I think only one person said “literally”. And don’t think he literally meant “literally”. It seems he figuratively meant “literally”. Except these days, “literally doesn’t even mean figuratively. It means with serious emphasis. If I “literally” say something that means I really really mean it.

 

[jamil]

Hmmmm... I'm bailing from this distraction at this point. G'luck.

Are you literally bailing?

 

[Trigger Time]

No other community or race anywhere, besides maybe gypsies & Muslim terrorists, celebrate and accept repeat/habitual CRIMINAL members of their community or turn them into celebrated Martyrs for dying in gang violence or fights with the police brought on MOST times by their own criminal activity. Blacks are very unique in that regard.

I honestly don't give 2 craps for any people who don't want to help themselves and want to help and encourage criminals.
I'm certainly not going to give them more freebies for misbehaving.
All I know what to do is what i was raised to do and what has worked through my personal life and also my military career as an NCO.
DON'T REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR!!! NIP IT IN THE BUD REAL QUICK LIKE AND SET THE STANDARD FOR OTHERS TO SEE.

 

[T.Lex]

Are you literally bailing?

I'm literally bailing out of that topic in the virtually figurative sense of not participating.

 

[Trigger Time]

Also I HATE the term "African American"
It's really unintelligent. African is not a race. (I'm not irish, English, german, native, American. I'm just a damn American. I'm proud to be American.)
They aren't African. Theyve never been to Africa. A lot of blacks didn't even trace back to Africa from slaves but they ride that golden pony of slavery.
Africans are the ones that sold their own people into slavery.

Leaders in the black community intentionaly hold their people down to reap in the benefits of the racism debate. Making money and power off the backs of their own people. So shameful. Imo way more shameful than the violent black Panthers or the laughing stock and frankly embarrassment to all whites, the inbred kkk.

If you want to be a productive member of society and have some self respect and respect for others and life then brother or sister (not a racist term, I call my closest peeps this) I welcome your friendship with open arms. I dont give 2 ****s what the color of your skin is or even past screwups you've had. I judge people by how they are TO ME!

 

[BigRed]

Also I HATE the term "African American"
It's really unintelligent.

I only know two African Americans. One is a friend of my daughter's. She was born in Ethiopia, adopted by a Hoosier when she was 3 and became an American. The other is a friend of my sisters. She was became an American citizen when she was 25. She was born in South Africa. She happens to be caucasian.

 

[Alpo]

You didn’t need to get that far. I think only one person said “literally”. And don’t think he literally meant “literally”. It seems he figuratively meant “literally”. Except these days, “literally doesn’t even mean figuratively. It means with serious emphasis. If I “literally” say something that means I really really mean it.

Rather than special rules for each individual....why don't you just try to stick with the OED definitions?

Millions of people get by with it,

ps. I notice a dearth of "woke" lately.

That's good.

 

[jamil]

Rather than special rules for each individual....why don't you just try to stick with the OED definitions?

Millions of people get by with it,

ps. I notice a dearth of "woke" lately.

That's good.

Hey, I'm just talking about how language is used. I'd be happy if the Millennials at work would stop using "ask" as a noun.

 

[Alpo]

Just pullin' yer chain.

 

[T.Lex]

I only know two African Americans. One is a friend of my daughter's. She was born in Ethiopia, adopted by a Hoosier when she was 3 and became an American. The other is a friend of my sisters. She was became an American citizen when she was 25. She was born in South Africa. She happens to be caucasian.

I know someone who was born here in the USA to Haitian parents. She can't stand the label "African American." There's an implicit rejection in that phrase of her ancestral ties to the people who rose up against slavery on that island.

 

[T.Lex]

Hey, I'm just talking about how language is used. I'd be happy if the Millennials at work would stop using "ask" as a noun.

The way I hear it, it always sounds like they're saying I have a big donkey.