Colin Kaepernick protests the Anthem

[JettaKnight]

So, do all these players have power to create controversy because we give it to them? I see them as the next Kardashians (sp?), you know, worthless people that only exist in the public eye because people look, then talk, tweet, bleet, etc.

If the cameras never pointed at the players during the National Anthem, then all their shenanigans would go for naught. If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it really fall?

 

[indiucky]

94 percent of people killed by police are men.......When oh when will we quit being shot?????? It's not the COLOR of our skin.....It's our penises that are getting us killed........

That's what Bruce Jenner realized.....He doesn't "feel" like he is a woman....He just doesn't want to get shot......

 

[HoughMade]

Say what you will about Donald Trump, but the left is so utterly predictable that all he had to do was say....anything about this whole mess and many, many people knee-jerked right into protesting in a way that looks like the are protesting America, not him. I'd like to think he planned it, but the truth is when he starts getting applause, he just starts ratcheting up the rhetoric- applause junkie.

If he really wants to accomplish something, he should say that anyone who opposed Obamacare should be fired. The leftists would break their necks supporting repeal and replace just to go the opposite way of Trump.

 

[mikebol]

If you've ever worked in or with a sports franchise, the fan experience is EVERYTHING. You want their butts in the seats buying overpriced food, drink and wearing your swag.

The irony here is the NFL and it's players are pissing off the fans which are most likely the same group of middle class people that voted for Trump, not all, but likely a large majority. A football game, concert, auto race, etc. are not meant to be political platforms although they are being used as such. Fans have paid a significant amount of money for their 18"x2' seating area and have an expectation to be entertained. This form of protest is going to create some division and backlash from the fan base.

Simply put, no matter which side of the issue the NFL an players chooses to be on, they are going to lose fans, viewers and advertisement revenue.

Mike

 

[Kutnupe14]

If you've ever worked in or with a sports franchise, the fan experience is EVERYTHING. You want their butts in the seats buying overpriced food, drink and wearing your swag.

The irony here is the NFL and it's players are pissing off the fans which are most likely the same group of middle class people that voted for Trump, not all, but likely a large majority. A football game, concert, auto race, etc. are not meant to be political platforms although they are being used as such. Fans have paid a significant amount of money for their 18"x2' seating area and have an expectation to be entertained. This form of protest is going to create some division and backlash from the fan base.

Simply put, no matter which side of the issue the NFL an players chooses to be on, they are going to lose fans, viewers and advertisement revenue.

Mike

This, at least, makes sense.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Say what you will about Donald Trump, but the left is so utterly predictable that all he had to do was say....anything about this whole mess and many, many people knee-jerked right into protesting in a way that looks like the are protesting America, not him. I'd like to think he planned it, but the truth is when he starts getting applause, he just starts ratcheting up the rhetoric- applause junkie.

If he really wants to accomplish something, he should say that anyone who opposed Obamacare should be fired. The leftists would break their necks supporting repeal and replace just to go the opposite way of Trump.

IMO, Republicans should get out of the way and let Obamacare collapse under it's own weight. Anything they pass, they "own".

BTW, it is no longer "insurance" when someone who has never paid a penny in premiums purchases a plan AFTER they find out they have some god-awful-expensive-to-treat condition. They've paid nothing in and now the health insurance company, and their premium payers through premium increases, are on the hook for the $100,000's or millions of dollars of treatment.

It is as fundamentally unsustainable as allowing the purchase of life insurance AFTER someone is already dead!

And, btw, this isn't a surprise to anyone, least of all Obama... the plan all along was to convert Obamacare to SINGLE PAYER, after the collapse was blamed upon greedy insurance companies, naturally.

 

[HoughMade]

Well, that wasn't really my point, but OK.

How about this- Trump should say that all abortion providers should be fired....then watch the leftists jerk the wheel to hard pro-life.

 

[churchmouse]

This, at least, makes sense.

And this is my entire point. Maybe not so well or clearly stated.
These "Activists are choosing to abuse a privilege we as fans allow them. The huge audience is the target. Not at all sure what the agenda is anymore as it has become muddled/confused.

Drop the politics during our entertainment free time. Just drop it. Find another way.

 

[Kutnupe14]

If these NFL players took a knee, during the anthem, to protest the mistreatment of war vets. How would you view that? Would you have the same anger, would you sympathize, or would you support?

 

[churchmouse]

IMO, Republicans should get out of the way and let Obamacare collapse under it's own weight. Anything they pass, they "own".

BTW, it is no longer "insurance" when someone who has never paid a penny in premiums purchases a plan AFTER they find out they have some god-awful-expensive-to-treat condition. They've paid nothing in and now the health insurance company, and their premium payers through premium increases, are on the hook for the $100,000's or millions of dollars of treatment.

It is as fundamentally unsustainable as allowing the purchase of life insurance AFTER someone is already dead!

And, btw, this isn't a surprise to anyone, least of all Obama... the plan all along was to convert Obamacare to SINGLE PAYER, after the collapse was blamed upon greedy insurance companies, naturally.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

[bwframe]

...Maybe we can talk football?...

College football?
Isn't this the beginning of the end of "professional" football as we know it?

 

[jamil]

I can't keep up. Depending on the day Kap's girlfriend is either a Marxist, or Sharia adherent Islamist. Today she's a Marxist?

Honestly, the backlash is probably more attributed to the inevitable change of the culture of the nation. It's a last gasp of former thinking, a changing of the guard. As the nation's ideals, demographics, and culture slowly (well faster than slowly) change, there's bound to be backlash. I get it. People want the America of the 40s and 50s. I can see why that kind of Americana is attractive and hold so much sway. But for better or worse, were not returning to that. And because of that backlash, there's going to be an even stronger pushback. Look... it's already happening. Drugs legalization, removal or divisive monuments, gender recognition, calls for immigration reform, healthcare, protests, demonstrations, etc, etc, etc. So yeah, it's a culture war. One culture trying to stay relevant, as the other tries to gain relevance. However there's a clock on this change of culture, and for good or bad, it favors the latter.

Forgot to add "cultural". She's a "Cultural Marxist". A leftist flavor of identitiarianism, much like alt-right is a right wing flavor of identitarianism. And given how she dresses, I think she's far from a real Sharia adherent Islamist. And I guess I can't blame Kaep too much for being ***** whipped. I mean she's kinda hot.

About the other stuff, in some things, sure. There's a natural progression to overcoming human nature. The expected growing pains of natural social evolution are quite different from everything that is going on now, and it only explains a small subset of the divide. For example, do you really think white people wearing dreds actually harms black people? Probably about as much as Beyonce dying her hair blonde harms Swedes. The term "cultural appropriation" is nonsense and it promotes a fake societal harm. Activist extremists push societal evolution towards nonsense, towards chaos. There's an intent.

 

[HoughMade]

If these NFL players took a knee, during the anthem, to protest the mistreatment of war vets. How would you view that? Would you have the same anger, would you sympathize, or would you support?

I'll get back to you just as soon as that happens.

The NFL wasn't real excited about honoring murdered police officers, so.....

 

[KMaC]

I guess I need to catch up. I thought Kaepernick was protesting unequal treatment of blacks by police. No one is stating the purpose of the kneeling or at least the media sound bites aren't including any explanations. The closest I've seen were a couple of Colts that explained what it wasn't. It wasn't anti police, military or country and wasn't disrespecting the flag or anthem. It is bigger than any of that and is about the current social injustice (but no definition of that social injustice was given).
I would interpret Kaepernick's version to be anti police. This seems to have evolved into something that no one will name. If it is simply a poke in Trump's eye for his comments I wouldn't think that players would hesitate to say so. Why won't anyone say what the kneeling actually represents? Or have I missed the BIG PICTURE?

 

[jamil]

If these NFL players took a knee, during the anthem, to protest the mistreatment of war vets. How would you view that? Would you have the same anger, would you sympathize, or would you support?

That's a difficult thing to imagine ever happening. Maybe you can find a more realistic equivalence.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color..."

He is blaming this on the whole country. Find something equivalent to THAT.

 

[printcraft]

Say what you will about Donald Trump, but the left is so utterly predictable that all he had to do was say....anything about this whole mess and many, many people knee-jerked right into protesting in a way that looks like the are protesting America, not him. I'd like to think he planned it, but the truth is when he starts getting applause, he just starts ratcheting up the rhetoric- applause junkie.

If he really wants to accomplish something, he should say that anyone who opposed Obamacare should be fired. The leftists would break their necks supporting repeal and replace just to go the opposite way of Trump.

Well, that wasn't really my point, but OK.

How about this- Trump should say that all abortion providers should be fired....then watch the leftists jerk the wheel to hard pro-life.

Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[printcraft]

If these NFL players took a knee, during the anthem, to protest the mistreatment of war vets. How would you view that? Would you have the same anger, would you sympathize, or would you support?

lol

 

[jamil]

And on Valentine's she's in a Catholic School Uniform.....It just depends on how they want to spice things up....

 

[jamil]

Anyone notice the ratings for Sunday and Monday football? Up 3%.

Apparently people tuned in to see who was going to kneel.

 

[Alpo]

94 percent of people killed by police are men.......When oh when will we quit being shot?????? It's not the COLOR of our skin.....It's our penises that are getting us killed........

That's what Bruce Jenner realized.....He doesn't "feel" like he is a woman....He just doesn't want to get shot......

I hadn't really thought of it that way. When are you buying culottes and strappy sandals?