Actually, it's worse. It's one thing for a drunk to brag in a bar.
Next thing you know, we'll find out he's Kenyan.
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Actually, it's worse. It's one thing for a drunk to brag in a bar.
Next thing you know, we'll find out he's Kenyan.
You are claiming to be the smarter one here with a jab or a dig or a degrading name for all of the Republican candidates in this thread, titled as such. I just want to vote the same as the smarter one. Please tell me who to vote for...
I'm shocked, shocked I say! You mean politicians lie! Oh, the humanity!
Yep, 'cause when you pick someone from outside the beltway it's a disaster. Look how that Reagan thing turned out!
So about the "lie". A factually incorrect statement isn't a lie without some intent to deceive. Intentionally making more of something than the facts bear is deceptive.
So let's look at what we know. Carson's ghostwriter wrote in the book that Carson met Westmoreland around Memorial Day. Westmoreland was at home playing tennis and was not in Detroit at that time. So that account was factually incorrect.
The general wouldn't have offered a scholarship because any acceptance into West Point is a free ride anyway, except for the four year commitment to serve. There are no scholarships offered. Carson didn't apply and was never accepted. So that account was factually incorrect.
Carson may have attended another dinner where Westmoreland did attend months earlier. He may have conflated the two events in his mind. The ghostwriter did say he thought Carson's memory of the events was sketchy, which seems reasonable when trying to remember something that happened almost 30 years prior. Or, perhaps the ghostwriter and/or Carson decided that it would make a more dramatic point to merge the two events. It was, after all, supposed to be an inspirational kind of biography.
Did he even talk to Westmoreland personally? Possibly. Westmoreland talking to the top ROTC cadet in Detroit at a dinner held in Detroit doesn't seem like a far stretch.
About the "scholarship", I don't know. Did he lie? Or did a 17 year old kid misunderstand what was said, and memory of events 27 years later led to the story the way it was told?
So I guess what we're left with is, if you want to believe that Carson intentionally misled folks you can believe that, but you have to have faith that there was intentional deception. But that's okay MRJ, you get to believe things based on faith too.
However, for a serious news outlet to declare that Carson "fabricated" it, that is indeed intentionally making more of something than the facts bear. They backed off of their original headline for a reason. But it doesn't matter. The intended damage is done. They've provided the fodder for the faithful. Can't put that genie back in the bottle.
I can remember dating the prettiest girl in school on the weekend after I graduated in a borrowed Corvair. We went to the drive in. That was 49 years ago.
Now, is it possible that I wouldn't remember meeting THE general and two MOH winners when I was that age?
Not on a bet.
There is no need to apologize. He was caught telling a war story. His bad.
Now, is it possible that I wouldn't remember meeting THE general and two MOH winners when I was that age?
Not on a bet.
There is no need to apologize. He was caught telling a war story. His bad.
MisterChester
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Rand needs to get his act together. I'm not liking anyone near the top at all.
Who are you gonna vote for if your man Paul doesn't make it?
Who needs to apologize? The way it's looking, probably the politco reporter.
I remember a lot of details of when I first met my wife. I was with friends hanging out at the local pool hall. I can remember when I saw her. I remember what we talked about. I even remember what she was wearing. I couldn't even venture a guess what time of year it was.
Politico backed off of "fabricated" for a reason. Even David Axelrod called it "reporter overreach". The media took a thumping for trying to make this Carson's "Herman Cain" moment.
Westmoreland-gate, creation-gate, pyramid-gate. That's tabloid reporting. There are plenty of valid reasons to be weary of a Carson presidency. I worry a lot more about policy than the tabloid stories.
Rand Paul is the candidate I most support. But I have moved past the belief that he has any chance. The people just aren't buying what he's selling. And he has proven to be a horrible salesman. It's clear that the Republican establishment hates him.
At least he'll make an appearance on the varsity stage for the next debate. I think it will only be an appearance though. The moderators will probably be wanting to spend most of their time picking apart Trump and Carson.
Just a reminder that the leftist media it trying to drive Republican votes away from good people. It is no surprise that they have decided it is worth picking apart someone's biography when they had no interest in analyzing Obama's in 2008 or 2012. Every one of these gotcha "findings" are oversold, picky BS that are used to try and pick apart Republicans only.
Politicians, press pile on Politico
The Audacity of Myth: How the Media Ignored Obama's Lies About His Own Biography and Memoir
Politicians, press pile on Politico
The Audacity of Myth: How the Media Ignored Obama's Lies About His Own Biography and Memoir
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MisterChester
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I don't like Trump that much, but out of everyone in the race he'd be my 2nd choice, albeit a very distant 2nd. Everyone else left is just too socially statist for my blood. Continuing the war on drugs, meddling with people's personal lives, being too weak on the borders.
Interesting how somebody that supports government run health care and Kelo is considered less statist than the likes of Cruz and Jindle.
MisterChester
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Rand doesn't have a lot of supporters but the ones he has are very passionate about him and aren't as likely to switch allegiances. As long as they keep answering polls he'll be on the varsity stage.
It is actually your side that has fueled Trumps popularity. You have been so successful at getting your way through whatever devious means it took to do it that it's finally catching up to you. Be careful what you wish for.
Ahhh, so democrats are responsible for the list of republican candidates. Cognitive dissonance amigo.
The conservatives control the party and refuse to look at moderate, electable republicans and then blame the democrats for the GOP factions?
That is remarkable. Perhaps this thread ought to be merged with the religion thread.
The conservatives control the party and refuse to look at moderate, electable republicans and then blame the democrats for the GOP factions?
That is remarkable. Perhaps this thread ought to be merged with the religion thread.
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