I thought O'Malley's closing remarks were pretty good. Overall, I wouldn't be uncomfortable with any of these candidates running for the office of president. And that's good news because there is no way the republican group can pull a win in 2016 with the position the GOP has currently put the country in. They lost more voters this week when Mitch McConnell talked about cutting back on social security and changing medicare.
Out of all of them Webb is the least scary. he seems to lean to right a lot. But that just ansures he won't get the nomination.
Old Bernie works the crowd better then all of them. He is telling them what they want to hear. "Vote for me and get free . I'll make all millionaires look like crooks that are taking all your money!!" I'll take it back and give it to you. Now what disenchanted young American youth wouldn't find that appealing?? Makes me wanna
Well, he want to give away free higher education at community colleges. Sounds freaken awesome until you look at how many college educated unemployed people there are. Creating jobs that you can work at is a higher priority. You aren't going to see more high paying jobs under him. You will see less. The $15 an hour minimum wage thing is only going to un employ people.
I agree with the point about college, like somehow a degree is a golden ticket to a job, it's not. There are many paths to a good paying job. I disagree though that a 15 dollar minimum wage will lead to less higher paying jobs. You'll lose some low paying jobs but I think there are a lot of companies that would just have to suck it up and make up the costs some other place. Which are of course the hidden costs of a higher minimum wage.
Well, I'm glad I wasn't the only INGOr to watch it.
Very interesting.
For the record, as of right now, the night of the debate, their averages in the polls by RealClearPolitics is:
Clinton 43.3%
Bernie 25.1%
Biden 17.4% (and he hasn't even announced yet!)
Webb 0.9%
O'Malley 0.4%
Chaffee 0.3%
It will be very interesting to see where the numbers stack after this debate. As much as I disagree with Bernie on some issues, he also targets some real problems as well. What amazed me was that in discussing his "free" college for everyone he HAD A PLAN TO PAY FOR IT! I am not supporting him on this, but this is really fiscally responsible to figure out a way to pay for something you want to buy. I didn't hear anyone else on any topic mention paying for a plan.
And he isn't horrible on guns. He isn't great, but he'd be better than all the rest, except probably Webb.
Anywho's... I can't wait until this time next week to see the new numbers.
Regards,
Doug
In any of the free stuff for everybody talk, was there any discussion on where in the Constitution, it's permitted? Or discussion on whether it's even the role of the federal government to be handing out college educations?
This is adult conversation?
Ask the founders? There's plenty written on the subject.If it is not expressly forbidden, is it permitted?
I thought O'Malley's closing remarks were pretty good. Overall, I wouldn't be uncomfortable with any of these candidates running for the office of president. And that's good news because there is no way the republican group can pull a win in 2016 with the position the GOP has currently put the country in. They lost more voters this week when Mitch McConnell talked about cutting back on social security and changing medicare.
In any of the free stuff for everybody talk, was there any discussion on where in the Constitution, it's permitted? Or discussion on whether it's even the role of the federal government to be handing out college educations?
This is adult conversation?
I am not a fan of his particular brand of tyranny.
Has it occurred to you that people don't vote for Libertarian candidates because libertarians don't represent their views? Anymore, the general public wants tyranny. They just disagree on whose.With Bernie he tells you exactly what you're gonna get, unlike the Republicans who pay lip service to the Constitution to get elected then do whatever they want once in office. Libertarians are the only ones you're going to get who strictly follow the Constitution yet people won't vote for them because they are unelectable because people won't vote for them because they are unelectable...
In any of the free stuff for everybody talk, was there any discussion on where in the Constitution, it's permitted? Or discussion on whether it's even the role of the federal government to be handing out college educations?
This is adult conversation?
I would humbly submit that this could be considered covered under Article I, Section 8 as follows "...to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States..."
I know we don't like it and would prefer it to be narrowly defined, but the authority to pay for the general welfare does exist, and education could be considered such in a more liberal definition.
Regards,
Doug
PS - I don't like it either. I only acknowledge that it exists.
Byron York said:Some laughed at Jim Webb last night. For perspective, read his Navy Cross, Silver Star citations. A great American
Valor awards for James Henry Webb , Jr.
With Bernie he tells you exactly what you're gonna get, unlike the Republicans who pay lip service to the Constitution to get elected then do whatever they want once in office. Libertarians are the only ones you're going to get who strictly follow the Constitution yet people won't vote for them because they are unelectable because people won't vote for them because they are unelectable...
Has it occurred to you that people don't vote for Libertarian candidates because libertarians don't represent their views? Anymore, the general public wants tyranny. They just disagree on whose.
ETA: it seems the largest constituents of libertarians are people who only want to smoke pot legally.