The CNN Democrat Debate Thread

[jamil]

Haven't watched the whole thing, but I'm pleased to see adult conversations being held by at least one major party in the US.

Oh, are they getting adult questions?

 

[17 squirrel]

If they do get one, they just shift to another topic..
But you did miss the Clinton & Sanders setup, swoosh and a handshake.

 

[MisterChester]

That's all Web has. He's the closest one to the center in this crown that's running as hard as possible far left.

Primary time is a race to the bottom.

 

[1911ly]

Out of all of them Webb is the least scary. he seems to lean to right a lot. But that just ansures he won't get the nomination.

Old Bernie works the crowd better then all of them. He is telling them what they want to hear. "Vote for me and get free . I'll make all millionaires look like crooks that are taking all your money!!" I'll take it back and give it to you. Now what disenchanted young American youth wouldn't find that appealing?? Makes me wanna

 

[jamil]

I assumed everyone used Chrome anymore

ios/safari

Flash is dead. Apparently CNN didn't know.

 

[Jludo]

Out of all of them Webb is the least scary. he seems to lean to right a lot. But that just ansures he won't get the nomination.

Old Bernie works the crowd better then all of them. He is telling them what they want to hear. "Vote for me and get free . I'll make all millionaires look like crooks that are taking all your money!!" I'll take it back and give it to you. Now what disenchanted young American youth wouldn't find that appealing?? Makes me wanna

He's not simply saying give away free stuff. The other half of the equation, and I think the bigger half, is the absolute corruption and cronyism that dominates the top tier of politics as well as wall street and multinational corporations. There are a lot of people who gamed the system to get what they have and stacked the deck against average Americans, not through any merit of their own.

 

[Jludo]

ios/safari

Flash is dead. Apparently CNN didn't know.

I wish it were dead, I honestly never notice anymore since it's built into chrome.

 

[Jludo]

Haven't watched the whole thing, but I'm pleased to see adult conversations being held by at least one major party in the US.

I concur.

 

[17 squirrel]

Martin O'Malley, if I'm President I will take on the NRA

 

[Jludo]

Webb and Bernie were alright, Hillary was bad, o'malley was the worst. Governor Chafee was there as well.

 

[1911ly]

He's not simply saying give away free stuff. The other half of the equation, and I think the bigger half, is the absolute corruption and cronyism that dominates the top tier of politics as well as wall street and multinational corporations. There are a lot of people who gamed the system to get what they have and stacked the deck against average Americans, not through any merit of their own.

Well, he want to give away free higher education at community colleges. Sounds freaken awesome until you look at how many college educated unemployed people there are. Creating jobs that you can work at is a higher priority. You aren't going to see more high paying jobs under him. You will see less. The $15 an hour minimum wage thing is only going to un employ people.

 

[Principal Skinr]

Is it just me, or do others see that the only time a Democrat talks about wasteful government spending is when they are referring to money spent on investigations into their (her) own wrongdoing.

 

[1911ly]

Is it just me, or do others see that the only time a Democrat talks about wasteful government spending is when they are referring to money spent on investigations into their (her) own wrongdoing.

I notice too.

 

[Jludo]

Well, he want to give away free higher education at community colleges. Sounds freaken awesome until you look at how many college educated unemployed people there are. Creating jobs that you can work at is a higher priority. You aren't going to see more high paying jobs under him. You will see less. The $15 an hour minimum wage thing is only going to un employ people.

I agree with the point about college, like somehow a degree is a golden ticket to a job, it's not. There are many paths to a good paying job. I disagree though that a 15 dollar minimum wage will lead to less higher paying jobs. You'll lose some low paying jobs but I think there are a lot of companies that would just have to suck it up and make up the costs some other place. Which are of course the hidden costs of a higher minimum wage.

 

[MisterChester]

Well, he want to give away free higher education at community colleges. Sounds freaken awesome until you look at how many college educated unemployed people there are. Creating jobs that you can work at is a higher priority. You aren't going to see more high paying jobs under him. You will see less. The $15 an hour minimum wage thing is only going to un employ people.

Not really. The only thing that unemploys people is lack of demand for work.

 

[Libertarian01]

Well, I'm glad I wasn't the only INGOr to watch it.

Very interesting.

For the record, as of right now, the night of the debate, their averages in the polls by RealClearPolitics is:

Clinton 43.3%
Bernie 25.1%
Biden 17.4% (and he hasn't even announced yet!)
Webb 0.9%
O'Malley 0.4%
Chaffee 0.3%

It will be very interesting to see where the numbers stack after this debate. As much as I disagree with Bernie on some issues, he also targets some real problems as well. What amazed me was that in discussing his "free" college for everyone he HAD A PLAN TO PAY FOR IT! I am not supporting him on this, but this is really fiscally responsible to figure out a way to pay for something you want to buy. I didn't hear anyone else on any topic mention paying for a plan.

And he isn't horrible on guns. He isn't great, but he'd be better than all the rest, except probably Webb.

Anywho's... I can't wait until this time next week to see the new numbers.

Regards,

Doug

 

[1911ly]

Watching Fox. They are interviewing a group of democratic voters. They say Sanders won the debate.

 

[bwframe]

Just heard the comment on a news show that folks are reporting in the real winner tonight was Joe Biden.

 

[Jludo]

Just heard the comment on a news show that folks are reporting in the real winner tonight was Joe Biden.

Hah reminded me of a tweet I read before the debate

setting the over/under on the number of times i hear the phrase "the real winner of tonight's debate was joe biden" at 1.5 billion
https://twitter.com/andylevy/status/654062005704359936

I think that was going to be the refrain no matter how the debate went.

 

[Alpo]

I thought O'Malley's closing remarks were pretty good. Overall, I wouldn't be uncomfortable with any of these candidates running for the office of president. And that's good news because there is no way the republican group can pull a win in 2016 with the position the GOP has currently put the country in. They lost more voters this week when Mitch McConnell talked about cutting back on social security and changing medicare.