Six flags is having muslim family day.......

[SavageEagle]

But I refuse to have a blind hatred towards a very large group of people because of the actions of a few. Doing so, and not hating nearly every other ethnic group that exists in this country defines bigotry in my opinion.

Since we're comparing our Founding Fathers to Al Crapa...

How many people in the American Colonies actually participated in the events following up to the Revolutionary War? How many people participated in the war itself compared to those that did not? And how many of those that did not, support the war for Independence or helped out in some other fashion?

Now, how many Muslims participated in the events leading up to 9/11 and the war in the Middle East? How many people are participating in the war we're fighting now compared to those that are not fighting in it? How many of those not fighting in it support the effort, cheered on 9/11, and help out in other ways other than fighting?

My point is, just because they don't pick up a gun or scream to the mountain tops that they support the Muslims who ARE fighting, doesn't mean the vast majority of them do not. I mean, I don't see mass protests BY Muslims to stop the violence from their fellow Muslims against America. Don't you think that if they were sooooo against the war they would be out there begging their fellow Muslim to lay down their arms and accept peace? I know I would be.

Let's think about it. Why are the Muslims fighting us SOOOO hard? What is it they want soooo bad they are willing to blow themselves up over? For us to leave the middle east? to let them kill Israelis and take over Israel? To let them have all that oil to themselves to do _____ with?

I'm sorry, but we're not talking about race against race. We're talking about a RELIGION against the WORLD here. You people say that the Quran is based on peace. At every turn in the Quran it talks about killing this person or that person in the name of God and you will be rewarded. Christianity doesn't say that. Yes, there's lots of violence and killing in the Bible. But it's not telling Christians to go kill Islamic people in the name of God. It doesn't say go slaughter all non-believers and enslave the rest.

No, I'm not anti-Muslim. But I'm not Pro-Muslim either. I will not give them the benefit of the doubt. They will have to earn my trust. Break it even the slightest bit and I will forgive you, but you will not be allowed near my family, me, or my property.

 

[E5RANGER375]

But I refuse to have a blind hatred towards a very large group of people because of the actions of a few. Doing so, and not hating nearly every other ethnic group that exists in this country defines bigotry in my opinion.

my dislikes against them are'nt religious or skin color based I just wanna say that first.

actions of afew huh? well maybe the actions of afew in the name of religion. But you go over to a arab country, even saudi, and then tell me how you felt walking down the street as an American, let along riding on a roller coaster. IF you even come back alive. They dont like ANY Americans, even most of them here in the U.S. hate us. They will shoot you or cut off your head over there. joking about pork chops, or getting angry over al la la la la day at six flags is HARDLY blind hatred compared to what we as Americans would be treated to over there. As an American in an Arab country you HAVE A PRICE ON YOUR HEAD & every dousch bag is looking to cash in!!!! whats the going rate for a dead Arab in America at the flea market? Oh thats right, we are'nt barbarians like they are. We dont do people like that here.

I can go to Ireland and feel comfortable. I can go to Germany and party, I can go to Japan ........ well they hate Americans too, bad example, lol. But I CANNOT GO TO AN ARAB COUNTRY and even let my guard down for 1 second or I will probly die. There deffinatly wont be an Arab 6 flags welcoming committee for Americans anytime soon, unless they need more guns, or want us to buy more overpriced oil from them. and even then, your not a rich or corrupt politician, so you and your bodyguards wont be invited.

My strong dislike is based on experience with more of them than just afew that I met paying for gas, or by watching a TV documentary. And this is'nt racist, its just fact.

 

[jclark]

 

[U.S. Patriot]

They should have an all White day so we could be called racist. Or how about an all Christian day, so we can be called Infidels. Some Americans tolerance for such things really makes me sick to my stomach. Prepare for the next crusade.

 

[Lars]

Supporting the right of a company to make a decision. Is hardly the same as saying "What happened on 9/11 is ok."

Supporting government regulation of private industry telling them what kinds of days they can and can't have on the other hand goes against everything that makes America America.

Blind hatred of a group of people because of some of their actions. I think this has been done in history before. There was even an attempt at a final solution. How's everyone feel about that one in the rear view mirror of history?

Realizing that there are bad and evil people in any group, and then saying because of that the entire group is bad and evil is just blind. Less than 1% of catholic priests were involved in the scandal over the last 20 or so years. Are all Catholics pedophiles? The reasoning of several opinions above certainly should come to that decision.

If not, Pot, meet Kettle.

 

[printcraft]

Don't forget the seventy-two virgins ride

 

[Bill of Rights]

I'm not taking any part in this discussion except to close the thread if/when it turns into a racist scream-fest. As the man once said "Please don't make me have to do my job".

Thanks in advance.

Obama

Nope. A former partner of mine at work, quoting his Air Force sergeant:

(Paraquote) Sgt: My job is to make sure you do your job. I don't have to get in your face and b***h about it not being done if you just DO it. Don't make me have to do my job.

Our job as mods is to make sure the board runs civilly and politely in accordance with its owner's wishes. If you do that yourself, as most of our members do, we don't have to drop the little smiley, close threads, or issue warnings, infractions, "vacations" or permanent bans.

Hence, Scutter's comment: "Don't make us have to do our jobs."

Thanks very much for your help.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Joe Williams]

snip
Blind hatred of a group of people because of some of their actions. I think this has been done in history before. There was even an attempt at a final solution. How's everyone feel about that one in the rear view mirror of history?
snip.

You are misstating the reality. Your claims that "only a few" are causing problems flies in the face of facts. They are mounting, and successfully fighting, a world war. "A few" extremists do not have this capability. The Irish terrorists you mentioned earlier can only affect their own neighborhoods, not the whole world. These people are mounting a war of conquest, with the stated goal of flying the muslim flag over DC and forcing us to convert to Islam or become slaves. THAT is the reality. We are not advocating a "final solution" as you falsely claim. We are asking to be allowed to remain free, and to be left alone, and they are coming after us anyway. They chose to slaughter us by the thousands, and your line of thinking would have us lined up to meekly accept more.

Your final solution comment is no different than race tactics being employed by the current administration as a weapon, and it's no more accurate. We are not advocating a final solution... we aren't advocating rounding them up. We are also not willing to die, become slaves, or pretend that there is a small group of extremists committing isolated acts of terrorism when that simply isn't reality. You can live in your PC world, and watch your daughter be fitted for her burkha. I'm not willing to sell my son into slavery, though, just so your "sensibilities" aren't offended, not willing to see more Americans butchered because some Americans are to soft and weak to face reality.

Holding a Muslim Family Day on 9/12 is a slap in the face to this nation. That company is free to do as they wish. We, however, are free to despise them for it, to excoriate them for it, and to do what we can to drive them out of existence for it. When MUSLIMS stand up and slap down those of their brethren waging a world war against free societies, then we can start to consider them as something besides enemies. They have, instead, chosen to support them with money, clothing, propaganda, arms, weapons, and words. A study shows that 25% of young American Muslims support suicide bombings to advance the cause of Islam. That's not a "few," that's not something people wishing to support the existence of this nation can ignore, and it's not worthy of being honored by American companies.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Joe, Well Said!!!

 

[SavageEagle]

Joe, Well Said!!!

Someone rep that guy a couple times for me.

 

[rmabrey]

Nope. A former partner of mine at work, quoting his Air Force sergeant:

(Paraquote) Sgt: My job is to make sure you do your job. I don't have to get in your face and b***h about it not being done if you just DO it. Don't make me have to do my job.

Our job as mods is to make sure the board runs civilly and politely in accordance with its owner's wishes. If you do that yourself, as most of our members do, we don't have to drop the little smiley, close threads, or issue warnings, infractions, "vacations" or permanent bans.

Hence, Scutter's comment: "Don't make us have to do our jobs."

Thanks very much for your help.

Blessings,
Bill

I couldn't miss thee chance. it was to perfect

 

[Fletch]

I used to believe that there were leftists who saw it as their job to be offended by various things. Now I see that I was wrong... it happens on the right as well.

 

[SavageEagle]

I used to believe that there were leftists who saw it as their job to be offended by various things. Now I see that I was wrong... it happens on the right as well.

Right and Left as in Tyrannists and Anarchists, or as in Liberals and Conservatives?

Oh, and I'm not offended, I'm disgusted. A friend of my enemy is my enemy.

 

[Fletch]

Right and Left as in Tyrannists and Anarchists, or as in Liberals and Conservatives?

Left/Right as in Liberals/Conservatives, Democrats/Republicans. Political correctness got its start because Lefties started being hypersensitive over everything, and declaring offense vicariously on behalf of those who might be legitimately offended but were insufficiently so. The Right has their own version of political correctness, but most seem unable to recognize it.

Oh, and I'm not offended, I'm disgusted. A friend of my enemy is my enemy.

That's one approach.

 

[SavageEagle]

Left/Right as in Liberals/Conservatives, Democrats/Republicans. Political correctness got its start because Lefties started being hypersensitive over everything, and declaring offense vicariously on behalf of those who might be legitimately offended but were insufficiently so. The Right has their own version of political correctness, but most seem unable to recognize it.


That's one approach.

I'm not being PC. I'm saying that an entire religion that wants to kill or enslave my family and I is thumbing their nose at us and I'm disgusted by it. I guess if we wish to be good people we should tell Al Crapa and the Taliwhackers that they are more than welcome in this Country, but only if they promise not to kill anyone, right?

 

[Fletch]

I'm not being PC. I'm saying that an entire religion that wants to kill or enslave my family and I is thumbing their nose at us and I'm disgusted by it.

I understand your perspective.

I guess if we wish to be good people we should tell Al Crapa and the Taliwhackers that they are more than welcome in this Country, but only if they promise not to kill anyone, right?

Coming to an agreement that we're not going to kill each other seems like a good ground rule for a relationship.

 

[Gabriel]

Nevermind...I didn't realize this thread was 8 pages long. I'm not going to bother reading everyone's BS.

 

[SavageEagle]

I understand your perspective.


Coming to an agreement that we're not going to kill each other seems like a good ground rule for a relationship.

It would be nice if they wouldn't break those rules. But they are.

I don't see an issue either.

The only real problem I have with this is this thread and people's ignorance of other religions. I've read that indiana has more organized hate groups than any other state in the US. It shows on this forum sometimes, and in this tread.

I'm not part of a hate group. I don't hate a people because of their race, religion, whatever. I hate a people that's trying to kill me and I will defend myself by whatever means possible.

However, this thread isn't about hate. It's about dishonor.

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

E5Ranger/Joe, you guys deserve reps, on my recharge.

Supporting the right of a company to make a decision. Is hardly the same as saying "What happened on 9/11 is ok."

You know, I truly wish I could believe this.

If that is the case, why have a special muslim day at all? Why not just let it be an average day? Why make it "special" for muslims on THAT date?

Supporting government regulation of private industry telling them what kinds of days they can and can't have on the other hand goes against everything that makes America America.

America has not be America for a long time.....

Blind hatred of a group of people because of some of their actions. I think this has been done in history before. There was even an attempt at a final solution. How's everyone feel about that one in the rear view mirror of history?

LOL @ blind hatred. I didnt wake up one day and say, who can I hate for no single reason.

I am only REACTING to the religion of ISLAM.

Why do we keep bringing up 'final solution' to defend Islam?
We can look at Germany today, Europe for that matter, with the masses of Muslims destroying Europe and say there was some vindication to being against multiculturalism.

No advocating, just saying


But tell me, actions of few and all that other nonesense, and being 'open, tolerant' etc, when was the last time you practiced this with neo nazis, KKK, Nation of Islam, Black Panthers.

My point, I dont blame a single person for HATING those organizations at all. I just wont. They have they're reasons.
But comparatively speaking Islam has caused more destruction in the world than any of those groups could - Combined.

As for this being called a race issue, as you are attempting to allude to, or bigtry, could you explain why no one here is Anti-Buddhist? Anti-Hindu? how about Anti-Sihk?

Let's be honest, this is not a racial/religion issue, it's the fact that those who adhere to that religion have are conquestic goal to which every Host Nation takes them in.
If you need examples, Iran is perfect. Turkey is perfect. Any EU country is perfect.

Realizing that there are bad and evil people in any group, and then saying because of that the entire group is bad and evil is just blind.

Not quite the same. The entirity of the Muslim Nations are major failures by Western Standards. The fact that slavery is still prevelent in those places speaks volumes.

The fact that a Father will kill his daughter if SHE IS RAPED, speaks volumes for how backwards they are.

Nothing is blind, and that is really rather insultive to those who have experienced the joys of Islam first hand.

Less than 1% of catholic priests were involved in the scandal over the last 20 or so years. Are all Catholics pedophiles? The reasoning of several opinions above certainly should come to that decision.

I personally believe there is an agenda to undermine the powerful Catholic Church, but also Christianity as a whole.

Personally, I hear of more pedophilia outside of Catholicism, within other religions than I do within Christianity.

I think those stories are false - Whenever a charge like that is made, I believe the RCC is required to give money for the "hardship".

I believe the media latched on, and beat that horse to death.

But if we're going to talk about that, Muhammad, the founder of Islam is renowned for being a child predator.

If not, Pot, meet Kettle.

I dont agree, but I respect your opinion to believe as you do.
However, I think it's wrong to sit here, and spin this into something it's not, or suggest that the other side is factless in they're belief.

I think we just need to agree to disagree.

 

[Fletch]

I personally believe there is an agenda to undermine the powerful Catholic Church, but also Christianity as a whole.

No agenda required. People who call themselves Christians discredit the religion well enough on their own, and that's me speaking as a Christian who is no doubt just as guilty.

I think those stories are false...

I don't believe so. A prominent clergyman here (not Catholic) did some time for child porn, and I've seen enough other evidence to say that I find it entirely believable that there are pedophiles and other sexual deviants in positions of ministry throughout the global Church, not just the Catholic wing of it.