Six flags is having muslim family day.......

[rmabrey]

Well, if Irish terrorists commit the single most deadly act of war ever perpetrated against us on American soil on August 1st, and Six Flags decides to hold Irish Fest on August 2nd... I'll be pretty darned torqued.

 

[ironjaw]

hey Irish Fest is in sept. downtown. last yr was awesome.

 

[VaGriller]

Well, if Irish terrorists commit the single most deadly act of war ever perpetrated against us on American soil on August 1st, and Six Flags decides to hold Irish Fest on August 2nd... I'll be pretty darned torqued.

You just got +1rep by a red bearded irishman.

 

[Lars]

Irish terrorist have killed an awful lot of people. Maybe not here, but as a nationality they're hardly saints.

How about German fest? Angry about their event? How many non-combatants were killed in 1944 alone? How many of us trace ancestors to victims?

Personally, after I watched a film shot by French Journalists who were following a NYFD rookie around on the week leading up to, and including 9/11/01 I get sick every time I think about it.

But I refuse to have a blind hatred towards a very large group of people because of the actions of a few. Doing so, and not hating nearly every other ethnic group that exists in this country defines bigotry in my opinion.

 

[chubbs]

This is freakin messed up, i'm all for the boycott of anyting and everything 6 flags. At this point i'm making a promise to never give them another dime at any of their locations

 

[96firephoenix]

Here's a negative rep for you. In return for giving one to somebody in this thread. Somebody having a different opinion isn't worthy of a -neg rep. What you did is, but in your defense can we really expect anything different from a school age kid who no real world experience?

For the record. I have a problem with it being Sept 12. It's a kick in the face to the 2976 Americans that 19 MUSLIMS killed.

well gee, thanks for being the mature adult here.

sorry for neg repping someone who is admittedly bigoted towards an entire religion due to the actions of extremists. I jsut don't agree with that. I guess letting someone's actions define them rather than their religion should give me a bad reputation... you're a wonderful American.

I agree that the date is in poor taste, but I see nothing wrong with the event itself.

and as you pointed out, it was done by 19 Muslims, not every Muslim.

You just got +1rep by a red bearded irishman.

I've got irish blood and red facial hair... no love?

 

[Lars]

I agree that the date is in poor taste, but I see nothing wrong with the event itself.

and as you pointed out, it was done by 19 Muslims, not every Muslim.

This pretty much sums up my feelings.

I already don't spend money at 6-Flags. So I can't vote with my dollars in this case.

 

[VaGriller]

Irish terrorist have killed an awful lot of people. Maybe not here, but as a nationality they're hardly saints.

From 1969 until 1997,

[5] the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) conducted an armed paramilitary campaign in Northern Ireland and England, aimed at ending British rule in Northern Ireland in order to create a united Ireland.[6][7][8][9]

How many British did we kill during the Revolutionary war?

 

[Lars]

How many British did we kill during the Revolutionary war?

Had we lost.... We, Americans, would have been branded terrorists, or at least the functional equivalent of the day. We would have been hanged, and our houses burned.

And would the British today, if that had happened, have been justified in blindly hating all [strike]Americans[/strike] colonists?

 

[jsharmon7]

and as you pointed out, it was done by 19 Muslims, not every Muslim.

But I refuse to have a blind hatred towards a very large group of people because of the actions of a few. Doing so, and not hating nearly every other ethnic group that exists in this country defines bigotry in my opinion.

+1 to both of these. 19 people out of an estimated 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide? Now if it were Al Qaeda Day at Six Flags, I'd agree with the rest.

 

[ironjaw]

IBTL......nevermind! this is just getting warmed up.

 

[rmabrey]

I agree that the date is in poor taste

I think this is, or should be the point of this thread. Alas as I have learned in my short stay here that will not be the case

 

[ironjaw]

+1 to both of these. 19 people out of an estimated 1.5 million Muslims worldwide? Now if it were Al Qaeda Day at Six Flags, I'd agree with the rest.

you mean 1.5 billion (with a B). I have a friend who was born in Iran, moved here when he was 16 yrs old. He knows the koran, it was beat into him by his dad. He is a born-again Christian, and he is proud to be an Infidel. He has a hard time believing a 'bible' (koran) that tells its followers to kill the infidel. He heard about Jesus who loves everyone regardless of sin and wanted to find out more about Him, and later accepted Jesus as his personal Saviour!

 

[jsharmon7]

you mean 1.5 billion (with a B). I have a friend who was born in Iran, moved here when he was 16 yrs old. He knows the koran, it was beat into him by his dad. He is a born-again Christian, and he is proud to be an Infidel. He has a hard time believing a 'bible' (koran) that tells its followers to kill the infidel. He heard about Jesus who loves everyone regardless of sin and wanted to find out more about Him, and later accepted Jesus as his personal Saviour!

Yes, with a B, that's an important distinction! Thanks!

 

[VaGriller]

Had we lost.... We, Americans, would have been branded terrorists, or at least the functional equivalent of the day. We would have been hanged, and our houses burned.

And would the British today, if that had happened, have been justified in blindly hating all [strike]Americans[/strike] colonists?

Had we lost. The British would have sent in War parties or hired other nations to come in and exterminate/hang anybody that had a hand in our revolution. The British were well known for that.

+1 to both of these. 19 people out of an estimated 1.5 million Muslims worldwide? Now if it were Al Qaeda Day at Six Flags, I'd agree with the rest.

If there were beheading videos all over the internet by Canadians I wouldn't like them either.

This PC bull**** amazes me and has turned this country into a pussified nation.

 

[Scutter01]

I'm not taking any part in this discussion except to close the thread if/when it turns into a racist scream-fest. As the man once said "Please don't make me have to do my job".

Thanks in advance.

 

[jsharmon7]

If there were beheading videos all over the internet by Canadians I wouldn't like them either.

This PC bull**** amazes me and has turned this country into a pussified nation.

Canadians are a religious group now? Or are Muslims a nation?

It's not so much about being PC as it is about not making blanket statements about entire groups. If ALL Muslims routinely beheaded people then I wouldn't like them either. The fact is that a few extremist groups are committing these actions and you are casting it onto ALL Muslims.

 

[rmabrey]

As the man once said "Please don't make me have to do my job".

Obama

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

well gee, thanks for being the mature adult here.

I cant blame someone for neg repping, expressing they're opinion.

sorry for neg repping someone who is admittedly bigoted towards an entire religion due to the actions of extremists.

No need to apologize. Islam, by OUR standards is nothing but extremism.

You have to think they're culture, tradition speaks in Islam.

I cant think of a singe sane person that desires to live in the Mid-east.


LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

Do you think a Muslim is not bigotted against Judeism? Paganism? Christianity?

Do you think a Muslim would EVER tolerate such a free thinker as you?

Allow me to make a very simple point, there is the real world, and then there is fantsey land. We can either talk about this with a realistic observation, use historical examples to predict the future, or we can go about believing in "Religion of peace" 'n stuff.

You are fortunate enough to be young, and have the world at your finger tips, to experiece something from the safety of your chair, what others learned the hard way.

I respect your opinion. I think it takes courage to believe what you believe, in light of the massive amount of information which opposes your belief.

One thing I will say, those who believe as I do, or as you do, we do ourselves grave injustices by being too proud to admit when we are wrong, when we accept what we're told, when we are too lazy to do our own research and form our own opinion then afterwards.

I jsut don't agree with that. I guess letting someone's actions define them rather than their religion should give me a bad reputation... you're a wonderful American.

So if people who looked like me, attacked you.. several difference times, said they would do it again.

And then you and I meet, you would not have 'doubts' about me?

Humans by nature will sterotype, because in reality, while they're might be exceptions, the rule of thumb is usually not found wanting.

I agree that the date is in poor taste, but I see nothing wrong with the event itself.

The date is beyond 'poor' taste. Everything has a meaning. I wonder how many Muslims who have links to 'extremism' will tell they're fellows about this grand victory?


You know what Muslim did when they conquered the last baston of Rome?

The great Helga Sophie, was an original Christian temple, Muslims stole it, converted to a Muslim temple, and so now we have that structural appeal, known as Mosques.

That was they're symbolic victory.

and as you pointed out, it was done by 19 Muslims, not every Muslim.

Hmmm...

I've got irish blood and red facial hair... no love?

Fianna? Eiranna?

Do you speak Irish?

 

[NordicHeathenVinlander]

If you are an American... You never heard about this.

Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent



urope's low white birth rate, coupled with faster multiplying migrants, will change fundamentally what we take to mean by European culture and society. Photo: AFP/GETTY






Britain and the rest of the European Union are ignoring a demographic time bomb: a recent rush into the EU by migrants, including millions of Muslims, will change the continent beyond recognition over the next two decades, and almost no policy-makers are talking about it.




The numbers are startling. Only 3.2 per cent of Spain's population was foreign-born in 1998. In 2007 it was 13.4 per cent. Europe's Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys' names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.







Europe's low white birth rate, coupled with faster multiplying migrants, will change fundamentally what we take to mean by European culture and society. The altered population mix has far-reaching implications for education, housing, welfare, labour, the arts and everything in between. It could have a critical impact on foreign policy: a study was submitted to the US Air Force on how America's relationship with Europe might evolve. Yet EU officials admit that these issues are not receiving the attention they deserve.


Jerome Vignon, the director for employment and social affairs at the European Commission, said that the focus of those running the EU had been on asylum seekers and the control of migration rather than the integration of those already in the bloc. "It has certainly been underestimated - there is a general rhetoric that social integration of migrants should be given as much importance as monitoring the inflow of migrants." But, he said, the rhetoric had rarely led to policy.


The countries of the EU have long histories of welcoming migrants, but in recent years two significant trends have emerged. Migrants have come increasingly from outside developed economies, and they have come in accelerating numbers.


The growing Muslim population is of particular interest. This is not because Muslims are the only immigrants coming into the EU in large numbers; there are plenty of entrants from all points of the compass. But Muslims represent a particular set of issues beyond the fact that atrocities have been committed in the West in the name of Islam.


America's Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, part of the non-partisan Pew Research Center, said in a report: "These [EU] countries possess deep historical, cultural, religious and linguistic traditions. Injecting hundreds of thousands, and in some cases millions, of people who look, speak and act differently into these settings often makes for a difficult social fit."


How dramatic are the population changes? Everyone is aware that certain neighbourhoods of certain cities in Europe are becoming more Muslim, and that the change is gathering pace. But raw details are hard to come by as the data is sensitive: many countries in the EU do not collect population statistics by religion.


EU numbers on general immigration tell a story on their own. In the latter years of the 20th century, the 27 countries of the EU attracted half a million more people a year than left. "Since 2002, however," the latest EU report says, "net migration into the EU has roughly tripled to between 1.6 million and two million people per year."


The increased pace has made a nonsense of previous forecasts. In 2004 the EU thought its population would decline by 16 million by 2050. Now it thinks it will increase by 10 million by 2060. Britain is expected to become the most populous EU country by 2060, with 77 million inhabitants. Right now it has 20 million fewer people than Germany. Italy's population was expected to fall precipitously; now it is predicted to stay flat.



The study for the US Air Force by Leon Perkowski in 2006 found that there were at least 15 million Muslims in the EU, and possibly as many as 23 million. They are not uniformly distributed, of course. According to the US's Migration Policy Institute, residents of Muslim faith will account for more than 20 per cent of the EU population by 2050 but already do so in a number of cities. Whites will be in a minority in Birmingham by 2026, says Christopher Caldwell, an American journalist, and even sooner in Leicester.



Another forecast holds that Muslims could outnumber non-Muslims in France and perhaps in all of western Europe by mid-century. Austria was 90 per cent Catholic in the 20th century but Islam could be the majority religion among Austrians aged under 15 by 2050, says Mr Caldwell.
Projected growth rates are a disputed area. Birth rates can be difficult to predict and migrant numbers can ebb and flow. But Karoly Lorant, a Hungarian economist who wrote a paper for the European Parliament, calculates that Muslims already make up 25 per cent of the population in Marseilles and Rotterdam, 20 per cent in Malmo, 15 per cent in Brussels and Birmingham and 10 per cent in London, Paris and Copenhagen.


Recent polls have tended to show that the feared radicalisation of Europe's Muslims has not occurred. That gives hope that the newcomers will integrate successfully. Nonetheless, second and third generations of Muslims show signs of being harder to integrate than their parents. Policy Exchange, a British study group, found that more than 70 per cent of Muslims over 55 felt that they had as much in common with non-Muslims as Muslims. But this fell to 62 per cent of 16-24 year-olds.


The population changes are stirring unease on the ground. Europeans often tell pollsters that they have had enough immigration, but politicians largely avoid debate.


France banned the wearing of the hijab veil in schools and stopped the wearing of large crosses and the yarmulke too, so making it harder to argue that the law was aimed solely at Muslims. Britain has strengthened its laws on religious hatred. But these are generally isolated pieces of legislation.


Into the void has stepped a resurgent group of extreme-Right political parties, among them the British National Party, which gained two seats at recent elections to the European Parliament. Geert Wilders, the Dutch politician who speaks against Islam and was banned this year from entering Britain, has led opinion polls in Holland.


The Pew Forum identified the mainstream silence in 2005: "The fact that [extreme parties] have risen to prominence at all speaks poorly about the state and quality of the immigration debate. [Scholars] have argued that European elites have yet to fully grapple with the broader issues of race and identity surrounding Muslims and other groups for fear of being seen as politically incorrect."


The starting point should be greater discussion of integration. Does it matter at all? Yes, claims Mr Vignon at the European Commission. Without it, polarisation and ghettoes can result. "It's bad because it creates antagonism. It antagonises poor people against other poor people: people with low educational attainment feel threatened," he says.



The EU says employment rates for non-EU nationals are lower than for nationals, which holds back economic advancement and integration. One important reason for this is a lack of language skills. The Migration Policy Institute says that, in 2007, 28 per cent of children born in England and Wales had at least one foreign-born parent. That rose to 54 per cent in London. Overall in 2008, 14.4 per cent of children in primary schools had a language other than English as their first language.




Muslims, who are a hugely diverse group, have so far shown little inclination to organise politically on lines of race or religion. But that does not mean their voices are being ignored. Germany started to reform its voting laws 10 years ago, granting certain franchise rights to the large Turkish population. It would be odd if that did not alter the country's stance on Turkey's application to join the EU. Mr Perkowski's study says: "Faced with rapidly growing, disenfranchised and increasingly politically empowered Muslim populations within the borders of some of its oldest and strongest allies, the US could be faced with ever stronger challenges to its Middle East foreign policies."



Demography will force politicians to confront these issues sooner rather than later. Recently, some have started to nudge the debate along. Angel Gurría, the OECD secretary-general, said in June: "Migration is not a tap that can be turned on and off at will. We need fair and effective migration and integration policies; policies that work and adjust to both good economic times and bad ones."


Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent - Telegraph

What you are not being told is, that Muslim immigration into Europe, but especialy well see in Scandinavia account for a rapidly increasing violent spikes.

Once safe neighborhoods, now resemble American ghettos.

Muslims rape European females, calling "Those whores want to dress like whores, we'll treat them like whores."

Another Muslim called it "War trophies" to rape European women.


I highly suggest the following video be watched, by everyone. You learn about Political Islam, Dualism, Old and New Koran.

Be ready to learn what the Elites dont want YOU to see.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaaSFhnJ880]YouTube - Islam 270 Million Bodies in 1400 Years - What Every Kafir Must Know![/ame]