As some of you might have noticed, grammar is not my strong suite.
. I see what you did there.
As some of you might have noticed, grammar is not my strong suite.
Assuming you meant car insurance.
Probably very similar to ACA. The difference is, the public owns the roads so the public (the state) gets a say in how they're used. That's why driving is a privilege and not a right. Rights get turned into privileges when the public owns a piece of it.
With public funded health care, in a sense the public owns your health. When you provide for your own health care, what you do concerning your health is non of my business. But if I pay for your health care, your health becomes my business because I have a stake in it.
. I see what you did there.
Then STFU.I am not familiar with the current tax codes and am in no position to accurately state how much I think people should be taxed. [/COLOR]
Name calling is what we're limited to due to our inability to dispense a much-needed ***** slap...or spanking. Does your father know you're up this late?Sometimes I like to pretend I live in a world where I can have a civilized discussion without people resorting to insults and name calling.
How is that not a mandate?They didn't uphold the individual mandate. They upheld the right of the gov't to tax you for not doing something. As result of this decision, you're not required to buy health insurance.
But you have no problem living in a country that tells other people how to spend their money. Hypocrite.No way in hell am I living in a country that tells me which church to go to or what god to believe in.
History isn't your strong suit, is it?Look, when the government starts passing laws that violate the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 14th Amendments, you'll be the first person I call.
How is that not a mandate?
"so they can support the government and country that allows them to become millionaires and billionaires"
That isn't exactly how I wanted that statement to sound. No, I am not, nor have I ever been or ever will be a supporter of Karl Marx. At the very least I find his work to be interesting, but nothing I'd ever support. It would probably be more accurate to describe me as a young idealist.
I simply meant to say that I belive people of the upper class (millionaires, billionaires, the "1%" even though I hate that term and don't want to get caught up in any of it) should pay a higher, but REASONABLE tax than your average joe/jane.
To Roadie and the one or two other individuals who brought this up, I am not familiar with the current tax codes and am in no position to accurately state how much I think people should be taxed.
Ok that makes sense, and thank you for pointing out one of my many spelling errors. As some of you might have noticed, grammar is not my strong suite.
Which is why I don't understand why the frickin' Supreme Court upheld the individual mandate, which requires you to pay an extra tax for not buying health insurance.
Then STFU.
Name calling is what we're limited to due to our inability to dispense a much-needed ***** slap...or spanking. Does your father know you're up this late?
How is that not a mandate?
But you have no problem living in a country that tells other people how to spend their money. Hypocrite.
History isn't your strong suit, is it?
It is not your healthcare that these clowns believe the public owns, but you.
Your health is of inherent interest to the communal good, as your bad health could be costly.
Eventually, when we reach the level that NHS has, we'll get to be effectively euthanized under the Liverpool protocol in order to save money...no death panels...they would be far too expensive...just a panel of one passing judgment and issuing sentence on your quality of life.
It's not a conspiracy theory...I doubt any (at least many) are wanting or hoping to see this...it is just the natural progression of these things.
Actually I didn't point out a spelling error unless you spell "car" as "health".
And you're welcome.
BTW, don't worry too much about that youthful idealism. It's curable.
You know, other countries have nationalized healthcare systems, and as far as I'm aware, they haven't gotten up in arms about it the way people are currently doing about Obamacare.
- Whether or not I stay up late is none of my Father's damn business!
- I never said I didn't have a problem living in a country that tells other people how to spend their money, and have already said I don't agree with the government requiring people to buy health care.
- Give me an example of which laws violated the amendments I mentioned?
- History is one of my favorite subjects
You are rather naive. If you aren't a supporter of Marx, then stop echoing his idology, especially the progressive tax, which he designated one of the 10 pillars of communism.
Every point you argue is long on emotion and rather shallow on logic or fact.
Who else that has a constitution like ours has public health care?
We're kinda individualist that way, but not as much lately.
Ha! One of the dad's in my Boy Scout troop told me something to the effect (I'm paraphrasing alot here) that once I hit 50 or so I'll stop being so much of a liberal. I'm hoping he's still alive when I hit 50 so we can see if he's right or not.
You know, other countries have nationalized healthcare systems, and as far as I'm aware, they haven't gotten up in arms about it the way people are currently doing about Obamacare.
I'd be interested to see if there are any polls or data out there that ask wether or not the people who live in countries that already have a nationalized healthcare system are happy with it and the higher taxes that I'm sure they pay for it.
Back when I was 20 someone told me, "If you're not liberal by the age of 20 you have no heart. If you're not conservative by the age of 40 you have no brain.
If you're the type who generally likes to earn his own way, life has a way of beating the liberal out of you. Liberalism makes an interesting philosophy but it's not very practicable, for long. Just ask the EU.