Some people have lives to live.
The true 1%'ers?
Some people have lives to live.
The true 1%'ers?
Hmmm....
Kut (is trying to figure out if you're that clever, or it's just a coincidence)
Please tell me you're not in law enforcement, or even private security. At least, not anymore.
Just out of curiosity, why do you say that?
Lost in all the conversation is the fact that their lawyer got arrested and Tased. I had to re-read that part of the news article I read to make sure I was seeing it right.
Am I the only one who thinks that's a bridge too far? You'd think the rest of the team would be outraged but I didn't see any comments as to such.
I understand that, but shouldn't that be the purview of the bailiffs and not Federal agents?
It was payback. The feds don't like losing what they think is a dead-bang case.
It seems completely over-the-top to me.
Last night I googled every news source I could find to piece together what really happened. I posted that upthread. There are still some missing pieces that justifies having 6 Marshals converge on him for a beat down.
Okay, have him removed, but jeez. Tasing him? Bull****. Stop resisting? How about not attacking in the first place. If he's hit with contempt for yelling at the judge, fine. Charge him. Arrest him. But it doesn't sound like that's what went down.
Sorry but "yelling" at the judge doesn't justify excessive force.
I would be curious to know if you can spot your shot holes after you have been shooting it for a while.
Normally i would say that not being there, I don't know what force was necessary, maybe the guy seemed a threat, etc. However, this isn't a guy on the street who could have reasonably been suspected to have a gun. This was in a courtroom where the law enforcement officers were not reasonably under threat (or did he suddenly claim he had a suicide vest?) I'm being ridiculous but how ridiculous is it for multiple bailiffs to tase someone rather than just restraining/removing him? Was he Chuck Norris, or were they the Donut Brigade, or were they just being a**holes?
Sorry but "yelling" at the judge doesn't justify excessive force.
I have had the worst fights with the most skinny suspects. Unbelievable how hard some people are when they don't want to comply.
That being said genetally it works in 3's. 1 They ask him, 2 they tell him and 3 they make him. Sounds like they were at 3.5 which happens and if he was physically resisting (didn't say he was assaulting them just physically resisting) that's why the Tazers were employed.
And like everyone else here wasn't there but it doesn't really take a IQ of 200 to know it never works out to disrespect a judge in their own court room.
Ha! I don't know why that is, but it's always the skinny guys.... or the short ones.
Rule #1 of criminal litigation, don't yell at the judge.
I have had the worst fights with the most skinny suspects. Unbelievable how hard some people are when they don't want to comply.
That being said genetally it works in 3's. 1 They ask him, 2 they tell him and 3 they make him. Sounds like they were at 3.5 which happens and if he was physically resisting (didn't say he was assaulting them just physically resisting) that's why the Tazers were employed.
And like everyone else here wasn't there but it doesn't really take a IQ of 200 to know it never works out to disrespect a judge in their own court room.
Are short, skinny guys the worst?
Probably they're not as easy as pudgy middle aged white guys.
You forgot "with a distinguished greying beard". Although us pudgy middle aged white guys with a distinguished amount of grey are generally very law-abiding.
If you yelled at the judge, should you expect to get jackbooted? Tased?
Maybe some stuff went on that would justify the jackbooting, but simply being disrespectful to the judge shouldn't cause that. Like I said upthread, If he's getting ****ty with her, charge him with contempt, arrest him, if he resists, do whatever jackbooting is necessary to subdue him. But c'mon. Just to say it never works out well, as if we should just accept that anyone who diss's a judge should get a smackdown, that's not acceptable.
Be a ***damn professional. That's how I expect judges to conduct themselves.