Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[firecadet613]

I don't.


Why do you care about the vaccine so much if you're not taking it?

Because the new route most are taking was said above.

Vaxxed can spread it, but aren't required to get tested weekly.

Unvaxxed can spread it, but are required to get tested weekly.

Must be liberal logic, that I can't understand...

 

[JettaKnight]

What is your position regarding mandates?

I think it's an absolute horrible idea.

 

[BigRed]

I think it's an absolute horrible idea.

Indeed.

In your opinion, is there any limit to control which controllers would find acceptable and not breach?

 

[JettaKnight]

Indeed.

In your opinion, is there any limit to control which controllers would find acceptable and not breach?

It's too late for me to make sense of that question... after a long day of control software, all I can think of is relay controllers.

 

[BigRed]

It's too late for me to make sense of that question... after a long day of control software, all I can think of is relay controllers.

Let me simplify it.

Where does the authority of government end?

 

[Alpo]

Literally. The ONLY question I have for people and haven’t got an answer on... why do you care if I’m vaccinated?

FIFY

 

[chiraqi]

So we're almost one month out from Biden announcing a vaccine mandate on the entire nation...so uh, what's the status?

OSHA hasn't actually issued the rule.

When they issue it, it will have a start date before it goes in effect.

Then it has to survive legal challenges from multiple states. It'll probably get hit with a national injunction and go to the Supreme Court.

It's amazing because the media has been talking for a month like it's already in effect.

And it did successfully distract news coverage from the Afghanistan disaster. I'm wondering if the actual ruling is on hold until the President's handlers need another distraction.

 

[OkieGirl]

So we're almost one month out from Biden announcing a vaccine mandate on the entire nation...so uh, what's the status?

OSHA hasn't actually issued the rule.

When they issue it, it will have a start date before it goes in effect.

Then it has to survive legal challenges from multiple states. It'll probably get hit with a national injunction and go to the Supreme Court.

It's amazing because the media has been talking for a month like it's already in effect.

And it did successfully distract news coverage from the Afghanistan disaster. I'm wondering if the actual ruling is on hold until the President's handlers need another distraction.

THIS! I've gotten to the point that any time I hear the old man bumbling about on some policy that makes me want to hurl something through the TV, I take two steps back and look around at what else might be more important than what the media wants us looking at.
Your right, when something has all the fancy lights on it and a whole ton of noise...what is it that they are quietly sneaking in the back door?

Was it the Cali Recall scam? If the Dems lost control of that state it could have flipped the entire balance in Washington...whomever took that seat could appoint a interim replacement for Feinstein (I hear she's got medical issues that will keep her unable to serve). There are reports of TONS of republicans who showed up to vote but were told they already did but NOTHING of that in the news?

Afghanistan? It was an absolute embarrassment on the world stage, screwed many of our allies who also had troops over there, and has placed this nation in a very precarious place globally. We are much more vulnerable NOW than we have ever been. We won't even go into the complete shame of loosing thirteen of our service members without any retaliation; and he left Americans behind?!?! How is that NOT treason???
(interesting fun fact: google the definition and then go to DuckDuckGo and search the term. You will get VERY different definitions)

TREASON:
trē′zən

noun​

1. The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.
2. The betrayal of someone's trust or confidence.
3. A betraying; treachery; breach of faith.

 

[buckwacker]

We won't even go into the complete shame of loosing thirteen of our service members without any retaliation; and he left Americans behind?!?!

No retaliation? He droned 10 innocent people in response, 7 of them children. Even his response was incompetent.

 

[wtburnette]

Absolutely OG. A lot of what's going on is really bad, but a distraction for things that are even worse.

 

[OkieGirl]

No retaliation? He droned 10 innocent people in response, 7 of them children. Even his response was incompetent.

What will really set your hair on fire would be to research WHERE they took the intel from that let them to believe aid workers were terrorists.

 

[wtburnette]

Wish there were more like this guy:

‘I Would Start With — I Had COVID’: NBA Player Responds To Reporter Asking Why He Doesn’t Want To Get Vaccinated

Orlando Magic NBA player Jonathan Isaac explains refusal to take a COVID-19 vaccine because he already had it.

dailycaller.com

Well spoken and sounds educated. Definitely doesn't seem to represent most NBA players...

 

[foszoe]

Wish there were more like this guy:

‘I Would Start With — I Had COVID’: NBA Player Responds To Reporter Asking Why He Doesn’t Want To Get Vaccinated

Orlando Magic NBA player Jonathan Isaac explains refusal to take a COVID-19 vaccine because he already had it.

dailycaller.com

Well spoken and sounds educated. Definitely doesn't seem to represent most NBA players...

Maybe most outspoken ones? Or do you really mean most?

 

[wtburnette]

Maybe most outspoken ones? Or do you really mean most?

Okay, not a sports guy, but most of the NBA players I've heard speak aren't as well spoken as that gentleman. May just be that I haven't listened to a lot of interviews, which would be fair.

 

[jsx1043]

So we're almost one month out from Biden announcing a vaccine mandate on the entire nation...so uh, what's the status?

OSHA hasn't actually issued the rule.

When they issue it, it will have a start date before it goes in effect.

Then it has to survive legal challenges from multiple states. It'll probably get hit with a national injunction and go to the Supreme Court.

It's amazing because the media has been talking for a month like it's already in effect.

And it did successfully distract news coverage from the Afghanistan disaster. I'm wondering if the actual ruling is on hold until the President's handlers need another distraction.

This is why people need to understand that propaganda from the ruling class is so important. Even though the order hasn’t been put in place, the Pravda has declared it as a sacrosanct edict and businesses have taken it as a de facto order and implemented it.

 

[KLB]

THIS! I've gotten to the point that any time I hear the old man bumbling about on some policy that makes me want to hurl something through the TV, I take two steps back and look around at what else might be more important than what the media wants us looking at.
Your right, when something has all the fancy lights on it and a whole ton of noise...what is it that they are quietly sneaking in the back door?

Was it the Cali Recall scam? If the Dems lost control of that state it could have flipped the entire balance in Washington...whomever took that seat could appoint a interim replacement for Feinstein (I hear she's got medical issues that will keep her unable to serve). There are reports of TONS of republicans who showed up to vote but were told they already did but NOTHING of that in the news?

Afghanistan? It was an absolute embarrassment on the world stage, screwed many of our allies who also had troops over there, and has placed this nation in a very precarious place globally. We are much more vulnerable NOW than we have ever been. We won't even go into the complete shame of loosing thirteen of our service members without any retaliation; and he left Americans behind?!?! How is that NOT treason???
(interesting fun fact: google the definition and then go to DuckDuckGo and search the term. You will get VERY different definitions)

TREASON:
trē′zən

noun​

1. The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.
2. The betrayal of someone's trust or confidence.
3. A betraying; treachery; breach of faith.

There is the dictionary definition and the legal definition. Only the latter matters.

 

[JettaKnight]

Let me simplify it.

Where does the authority of government end?

Ok, I answered your question about mandates. I'm not getting into a philosophical discuss about govt authority.

 

[MCgrease08]

Biden says Border Patrol Agents must be vaccinated or they'll lose there jobs. But the illegals pouring across the southern border don't need to be.

I still don't understand how anyone can see the inconsistencies of these mandates and still claim this is about "the science" or stopping COVID. It's becoming increasingly clear it's about punishing and purging conservative leaning people from institutions.

House Judiciary GOP: Biden ‘Threatening To Terminate’ Major Portion Of Border Patrol Agents If Not Vaccinated

The House Judiciary GOP claimed on Tuesday evening that a whistleblower has come forward and alleged that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has notified U.S. Border Patrol agents that they will be terminated if they do not receive the coronavirus vaccine. The House Judiciary GOP said in...

www.dailywire.com

 

[JettaKnight]

Biden says Border Patrol Agents must be vaccinated or they'll lose there jobs. But the illegals pouring across the southern border don't need to be.

I still don't understand how anyone can see the inconsistencies of these mandates and still claim this is about "the science" or stopping COVID. It's becoming increasingly clear it's about punishing and purging conservative leaning people from institutions.

House Judiciary GOP: Biden ‘Threatening To Terminate’ Major Portion Of Border Patrol Agents If Not Vaccinated

The House Judiciary GOP claimed on Tuesday evening that a whistleblower has come forward and alleged that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has notified U.S. Border Patrol agents that they will be terminated if they do not receive the coronavirus vaccine. The House Judiciary GOP said in...

www.dailywire.com

TBH, not exactly sure I think BP should carry around vials and syringes for any illegals they encounter. Doesn't that stuff have to stay cold? Can you fit a mini-fridge on saddles?

purple where necessary.

 

[BugI02]

Nor has the garden variety flu. They still push the vaccines every year even though they readily admit that they're only a guess as to whether they'll be effective against whatever strain shows up in any given year. It's about as scientific as predicting the weather. 50-50 chance at best.

But it has 100% percent efficacy at generating profits