mRNA vaccines have been around for two decades.
For use against this type of illness?
mRNA vaccines have been around for two decades.
The deflection was using other knwon-toxic combinations as a straw man, instead of identifying how any combinations of ingredients in the vaccine are toxic (or otherwise dangerous). The person making that claim bears the burden of proving the claim. I don't have to prove that they're not toxic; there are plenty of data now to support the safety of the vaccine.The entire point of his post was sometimes safe chemicals aren’t safe once combined with other safe chemicals. You’re right, those are known toxic combos. Keyword, known, at one point in time those combos being toxic were unknown. It’s deflecting because you knew and understood the point he was making, but chose not to address it.
So tell me, what is the science behind the vaccine? Does it prevent infection? Does it prevent the spread? What are the long term effects?
Talk about cherry-picking.
Does it matter?For use against this type of illness?
Some information to consider, Israel is a disaster with hospitals packed with vaccinated people. It's all over the news right now how full hospitals are, and the lie is that they are full of non vaccinated people. I'm in health care around the state, big and small hospitals. I know a nurse at community and Lutheran, both told me last week more than half their patients are fully vaccinated. The other lie is hospitals are full here, but hospitals don't have the staff because so many have retired or quit because they won't deal with this insanity of forcing vaccinations, the ridiculous PPE they must wear around covid positive patients, students are training for a month and quitting the program because they won't deal with this crap. Methodist has lost 30% of nurses. Community has 270 open nursing/related positions.The deflection was using other knwon-toxic combinations as a straw man, instead of identifying how any combinations of ingredients in the vaccine are toxic (or otherwise dangerous). The person making that claim bears the burden of proving the claim. I don't have to prove that they're not toxic; there are plenty of data now to support the safety of the vaccine.
No, the Covid vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission. Does any vaccine of a highly mutable, easily transmissible respiratory virus/disease do that? It was never going to do that. (The very reason that I don't get the annual flu shot.)
What the vaccine is clearly demonstrating to do, however, is to minimize the severity of infection/disease, and significantly curtail hospitalizations, vents, and deaths - particularly among those who are most at-risk for Covid infection.
Does it matter?
If the risk is mRNA itself, then it doesn't matter. If the risk is the protein spike, then that risk is inherent with the virus itself.
Yes it has but only tested in mice!mRNA vaccines have been around for two decades.
Moderna started in 2012. BioNtech started mRna research and development in 2013, then Pfizer partnered with them in 2018 for R/D specifically for mRNA vaccines against influenza. We have ZERO long term data on anything mRNA vaccine related. We've got just a couple years of research.... And now hundreds of millions of test subjects. Let's be clear, mRNA therapy is gene therapy. And it's track record is terrible.mRNA vaccines have been around for two decades.
The vaccine hasn’t even been out an entire year. Long term side effects are still unknown.(I'll also point out that, while every medicine and vaccine can and does cause side effects, including major side effects, up to and including death, to my knowledge there remains no statistically significant causation established regarding the Covid vaccine and death.)
Ya, it’s good for THEIR 5-11 year olds, not mine.And now they are moving forward and saying the vaccine is good to go for 5-11 year olds
I hear ya. My youngest will NOT be getting it.Ya, it’s good for THEIR 5-11 year olds, not mine.
Unfortunately, my daughter who's all about the "vaccine" is the one with my two grandkids...age 5 and 11.Ya, it’s good for THEIR 5-11 year olds, not mine.
The vaccine hasn’t even been out an entire year. Long term side effects are still unknown.
With the vaccine, I still get AND spread the virus. I don’t know what the long term side effects are. So it does nothing to curtail the spread, and may even have serious effects in the future, so what’s the point of getting the vaccine? If it doesn’t stop the spread, and doesn’t prevent infection, what’s the point? For a 66% effectiveness, against a virus with a 99.9998 percent chance of survival?
Now, I don’t know about you, but that sounds ****ing stupid.
Have any children even died from the virus?Unfortunately, my daughter who's all about the "vaccine" is the one with my two grandkids...age 5 and 11.
Haven't looked it up, but I'm sure there have been a few...probably with other notable problems besides.Have any children even died from the virus?
We all have delusions and your welcome to join the flock.Talk about cherry-picking.
Hey, if that's your risk-benefit analysis, more power to you. However, if you're in the at-risk group, you might also want to consider that 95% (or more) of severe Covid infections, hospitalizations, ICU beds, vents, and deaths are unvaccinated.
(I'll also point out that, while every medicine and vaccine can and does cause side effects, including major side effects, up to and including death, to my knowledge there remains no statistically significant causation established regarding the Covid vaccine and death.)
For someone claiming to be in the field, you should know better.The deflection was using other knwon-toxic combinations as a straw man, instead of identifying how any combinations of ingredients in the vaccine are toxic (or otherwise dangerous). The person making that claim bears the burden of proving the claim. I don't have to prove that they're not toxic; there are plenty of data now to support the safety of the vaccine.
No, the Covid vaccine doesn't prevent infection or transmission. Does any vaccine of a highly mutable, easily transmissible respiratory virus/disease do that? It was never going to do that. (The very reason that I don't get the annual flu shot.)
What the vaccine is clearly demonstrating to do, however, is to minimize the severity of infection/disease, and significantly curtail hospitalizations, vents, and deaths - particularly among those who are most at-risk for Covid infection.
0-17 years 439Have any children even died from the virus?