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Chief is now testifying. The man is a liar. He claims that Chauvin is applying more than moderate pressure but also claims to have seen all of the video. The two statements are fundamentally incompatible.
I read on INGO that no one would lie (or dabble in the gray areas) while on the stand.Chief is now testifying. The man is a liar.
Indeed do.Self preservation, he wants to keep the job after this is over.
For some reason I thought the State rested Friday. Maybe this Friday?I believe the training sergeant and a couple UoF experts are slated to testify either yet today or tomorrow.
Yeah, I've heard that things are going faster than they thought (mostly because it seems like the defense is taking a light touch to most of the cross exam). So, I think the State may rest as soon as this coming Friday.For some reason I thought the State rested Friday. Maybe this Friday?
If this turns into a duel of experts, buy stock in plywood producers, 'cause that seems likely to lead to a defense verdict.I just read the State's doctor's testimony where he believed the heart stopped due to lack of O2 from positional Asphyxia. Then on cross admitted that the heart could have stopped from the drugs in the system.... https://www.forcescience.org/2019/01/new-study-more-evidence-against-the-myth-of-restraint-asphyxia/
Plus with the price of plywood these days - they better be making a healthy profit.If this turns into a duel of experts, buy stock in plywood producers, 'cause that seems likely to lead to a defense verdict.
Seems logical to me. But......There's an INGOer who I'm nearly certain has significant experience dealing with expert witnesses. Even in my limited interaction with that particular scenario, a pretty compelling argument about reasonable doubt starts with something like, "Now, I'm not a doctor and based on the jury questionnaire, neither are any of you. But if the experts can't agree on what killed him, then that is enough for reasonable doubt."
Then it falls back to the old trope about better for 9 guilty men to go free than convict a single innocent man.
Exactly. This is a USSR-style show trial, logic has left the building. Histrionics, emotion, crying on the stand, and the not-so-veiled threat of riot and retaliation are the order of the day. This is a show for the cameras.Seems logical to me. But......
So you are more of a "kill them all and let God sort them out" person?Then it falls back to the old trope about better for 9 guilty men to go free than convict a single innocent man.
You’ll have to explain this one, because it doesn’t seem to make sense.Chief is now testifying. The man is a liar. He claims that Chauvin is applying more than moderate pressure but also claims to have seen all of the video. The two statements are fundamentally incompatible.
Had he watched the videos and told the truth he would have to account for Floyd bobbing his head and neck up and down which requires Chauvin's application of force to be limited. If I saw it how in the universe did he not see it unless he willfully chose not to see it.You’ll have to explain this one, because it doesn’t seem to make sense.
Just a guess, but in the video, Floyd was clearly able to lift his head, so Chauvin couldn't have been applying that much pressure.You’ll have to explain this one, because it doesn’t seem to make sense.
I am with you here! Pulmonary edema caused by the drugs was in fact in play. As an experienced drug abuser Floyd KNEW this all while he was complaining about everything from his heart to genetal warts. His associate who kept lipping off from the peanut gallery KNEW this. Neither of the bothered telling the truth in the knowledge that Floyd had ingested copious quantities of drugs. Still this magically becomes Chauvin's fault.Just a guess, but in the video, Floyd was clearly able to lift his head, so Chauvin couldn't have been applying that much pressure.
That, combined with the lack of any bruising suggests that there wasn't any significant force being applied to Floyd's neck.
Positional asphyxia? Maybe, but since Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe before he was taken down leads one to believe that there was something else in play that was causing his distress.
Had he watched the videos and told the truth he would have to account for Floyd bobbing his head and neck up and down which requires Chauvin's application of force to be limited. If I saw it how in the universe did he not see it unless he willfully chose not to see it.
Ah ok. I understand. So, at least to me, there’s a couple ways to look at this, or interpret the Chief’s words.Just a guess, but in the video, Floyd was clearly able to lift his head, so Chauvin couldn't have been applying that much pressure.
That, combined with the lack of any bruising suggests that there wasn't any significant force being applied to Floyd's neck.
Positional asphyxia? Maybe, but since Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe before he was taken down leads one to believe that there was something else in play that was causing his distress.