Cancel Culture, Popes, Castration & ISIS = SAME!

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  • DoggyDaddy

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    Now do Starbucks... oh, and Colin Kaepernick
    I don't think those are the same. The black rifle OC events at Starbuck's was to encourage them to rethink their policy and I think those demonstrating were actually spending money in Starbuck's. I don't think it was to try and put them out of business or prevent them from opening businesses like was done to Chik Fil A. I don't remember any black rifle OC events having anything to do with Kaepernick.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    Is that stuff happening to dr seuss supporters though?
    Ummm, Dr. Seuss' name has already been "cancelled" from "Read Across America Day"... which originated SPECIFICALLY on his birthday, March 2nd.

    "Cat in the Hat" has been "cancelled" from the "Read Across America Day" website. Literally erased.

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    Instead, this well loved, widely known title was substituted to spark children's interest in reading:

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    This is not just about a couple books he wrote that are rarely read. Seuss, INC got the message after a 2+ year pressure campaign... yes, they can cancel Dr. Seuss and "Cat in the Hat" from the reading day, his birthday, and THE book that started so many kids on reading.

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    "Mighty nice little book biz you got there... would hate to see something happen to it."
     
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    KLB

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    Now do Starbucks... oh, and Colin Kaepernick
    There were campaigns to eradicate Starbucks? I remember people going there with guns as customers to show how many customers they had that supported carrying.

    As for Kap, were there campaigns to have him cancelled? People protested to have him fired everywhere he went? I remember people not supporting those companies that chose to support him, but I do not remember a mob shrilling for his cancellation.

    He was a has been when he started his nonsense. It isn't like he was fired simply because he was taking a knee during the Anthem. He was fired because it wasn't worth the hassle to have a mediocre backup quarterback on the roster that caused so much angst.
     

    NKBJ

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    The ultimate cancel is going to be taking down President Trump?

     

    IndyDave1776

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    Now do Starbucks... oh, and Colin Kaepernick
    I vaguely remember that Starbucks had some issue but don't remember what. If Kaepernick couldn't learn to do his job while at work and go all SJW on his own time, he deserves what he got. He was pissing off the customers, he was employed in a small industry, and was pulling his antics on national television. He created a difficult position for his employer and no other employer in his right mind was going to hire such a problem.employee. He wasn't cancelled, he simply made himself unemployable.
     

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    My thought is that there is a vast similarity between the censorship of art and literature that helps form a collective culture and the reasoning and methodology of Popes, ISIS and Nazis.

    I will be among the first to attack and disparage wrongful behavior of our government and its representatives, such as LE abuse. That doesn't mean I want to abolish or ignore the knowledge of such abuse. In this example LE has been critical to our nations general appreciation of being a "law first" society. We place law above culture here, unlike many places around the world. I prefer our way.

    The boycotting of a commercial enterprise such as Dick's or Starbucks or anywhere else isn't an attempt to erase our culture. These companies, in most cases, matter little to American culture. That isn't to say they don't matter at all, but not as significantly as the values we have been taught since childhood.

    The removal of Confederate statues is nearly the same as ISIS destroying those historical artifacts they found offensive. The pressure to remove certain Dr. Seuss books and the capitulation of that organization to do so is in line with Nazi book burning to remove any reference to what they found offended their sensibilities. The destruction of depression era art because a group finds a portion of it offensive to their view of world history is the same as the castration of statuary.

    Artlink: https://apnews.com/article/9f3037c7ec9d48a286059ac8f9975afe

    The complete irony of the art destruction is that the artist, a Russian communist, was brutally honest and critical of certain aspects of our history that should cause us to ponder a portion of our heritage.

    My thought is that we only learn by brutal self-reflection. We cannot change where we are going unless we can see where we were. That Confederate solders were perhaps on the wrong side of history does not make them evil. Soldiers from the dawn of civilization have behaved with honor, dignity, and courage.

    I remember reading of a story in a revolutionary war soldiers diary of a day he was on the field of battle. Having shot directly at a British redcoat he lost sight of his enemy that day due to the black powder discharge and the fog of battle. In his diary he expressed hope that his former enemy had survived the day.

    There was another story of Russian and German soldiers revisiting a battlefield of WWII. Each side discussing through a translator (whom I received the story from) the condition of their state prior to and during the final Russian push and German withdrawal. One of the German soldiers had a friend, Fritz, who was wounded while running toward the last plane to take off and withdraw. Fritz didn't make it to the plane. He asked if any of the Russians had been able to recall finding Fritz. While none did, all felt sorry for this lost soldier hoping he had survived.

    I retell these stories because the soldiers of the Civil war on both sides were serving their countries. It is my understanding the Gen Robert E Lee was opposed to the split but valued loyalty to state over loyalty to federal government.

    Dr. Seuss may have, with or without malice, used what we would think of today is inappropriate portrayals of other ethnic groups. But how can future generations fully understand history prior to themselves if they aren't exposed to the lack of sensitivity to such portrayals that they themselves have?

    The wonderful thing about our culture is that we CAN and DO change it! Culture is malleable. With this in mind we should not try to make the past in our own image if for no other reason than we cannot. The better reason is to understand how and why they came to the conclusions they did and avoid making those same mistakes in other ways for ourselves and our children.

    Regards,

    Doug
     

    Ingomike

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    On Twitter? Where the woke mob lives? The issue is something trends on Twitter and then the entire machine runs with it. The dr Sue’s thing started with a dumb tweet and caught traction then national attention. In an effort to avoid critique or whatever, dr Suess inc decided to cancel 6 books to appease the mob.

    the chick fillet thing would’ve been the same as the dicks thing, except and until the national media picked it up and the mob tried to put pressure on them.

    the difference is, when the overlords weigh in and the business caves to them.
    Yes, the woke mob is on twitter but so are thousands, if not millions of accounts ran by our enemies, the Chinese, Russians, etc. They use the accounts to further division in our society...
     

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    "These past several years, we Americans have been living in an accelerating anti-cultural vortex. Day by day the Yankee juggernaut gains steam. Once content with carpetbombing Hanoi and Baghdad, the Yankees are now taking their civilizational demolition derby back South, where it all began. Topple the Southern statues, spraypaint the Southern monuments, mock the Southern accents and folkways, and cancel Southern history and culture from Hoppin’ John soup to pine nuts. You may have heard once or twice over the past few years that everyone (except Yankees) is a racist.
    Doubly so for Southerners. Even Georgia native Clarence Thomas got cancelled—during Black History Month—for being too Southern for Yankee sensibilities to handle. I have no doubt that the Yankees will cancel Booker T. Washington and sweet tea next. The former was ornery enough to reject perennial victimhood by insisting that someone could rise “up from slavery,” after all, and the latter, alas, contains neither kale nor tofu.

    Things may seem bleak, what with the Yankees riding high on their horse and issuing cancel edicts left and right (well, only right) against anyone who dares question their self-righteous caterwauling. It would appear that the Yankee has won the field and the whole tournament, that the United States has been given wholly over to a screeching army of Karens hell-bent on turning all the world into Lincolnville (kind of like Potterville, but with more drive-by shootings). The Yankees have us masked up, afraid to go outside, demoralized from “voting,” ashamed to pronounce “windah” and “tomarrah” properly (as spelled), and resigned to living forever under the boot of ideological overlords who can’t tell the difference between a man and a woman or between a real civilization and a hierarchy of hatred for one’s fellow human beings. A bad time to be from the South, all in all. We are all hemmed in, at the mercy of the godless Yankee. It is Vicksburg all over again, only this time the Yankees are congratulating themselves for their victory on CNN.

    But, no. That’s not how I see things. I have been thinking lately that there is no better time than now to be a Southerner. My scrawny chest swells with pride when I see our flag flying high. I call to mind the past and am glad at heart to be who I am. By the Grace of God, I have a culture. I share deep wellsprings of belonging and understanding with my brothers and sisters of the South. Those are the things that make us human, the bonds that lash us to one another whether we like it or not. I have a people, a background. Take it or leave it (and please leave the pecan pie for me), I was born a Southerner and will be happy to die as one someday.

    It’s the lack of this human welter of connections and forbearances that makes the Yankee into a screaming devil. The Yankee is a pitiful creature, a sad-sack nobody whose only mode of communication is the propaganda crusade, the drone strike, and the atom bomb. (Lately he has branched out to the media of the thrown brick and the bullhorn.) The Yankee is the loneliest of all human beings, for, unlike everyone else, the Yankee has no culture to call his own, no home to return to. He holds nothing sacred except his own hypocrisy, and is therefore doomed to roam the earth destroying what all other men and women hold dear: kinfolk, tradition, a little plot of ground in which one’s ancestors have been laid to rest.

    The Yankee can never have these things, can never know what it is to be raised in an actual culture connecting the individual to the past, the present, and somehow to others yet to be born. The Yankee is raging around the planet like a lovelorn King Kong, insisting in his heartache that everyone pay homage to 72 genders and quit reading Green Eggs and Ham. How sorrowful it must be to hate the world so, to have no humor in one’s heart and no companion but one’s anti-human ideology.

    I wince when I see the Yankee rare up and bellow, pulling a train of death and destruction behind him from Yemen to Guatemala. A tear rolls down my cheek (almost) when I witness the anti-cultural monsters streaming out of their Bostons and New Yorks, out of our illegally occupied Washington, DC, pretending to make friends with the world by selling boatloads of missiles to dictators. It tears at the breast to see someone degrade himself so. There is no one more pitiable than the Yankee, holding us all at gunpoint and demanding to be loved.

    Now, when we need culture and breeding the most—seeing so plainly that the Yankee has neither—let us give thanks that we were born and raised to live like ladies and gentlemen. I have never been so grateful as I am this very day to be a Louisianan, by way of Alabama and Tennessee. (Full disclosure: I once spent time in Wisconsin and Ohio. Please pray for me.) We are universally loathed by the Yankee as barefoot, illiterate, gap-toothed racists. God bless America! To be disdained by a Yankee is a gift from God. And bless the Yankee heart, because he just doesn’t know what it is to have a place in the world.

    Let this little missive be a candlelight in the dark to my fellow Southerners. We are perfectly positioned to survive the collapse of Yankeedom, which we see accelerating day by day right before our eyes. There has never been a better time than right now to be a Southerner."
     

    BigRed

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    I vaguely remember that Starbucks had some issue but don't remember what. If Kaepernick couldn't learn to do his job while at work and go all SJW on his own time, he deserves what he got. He was pissing off the customers, he was employed in a small industry, and was pulling his antics on national television. He created a difficult position for his employer and no other employer in his right mind was going to hire such a problem.employee. He wasn't cancelled, he simply made himself unemployable.

    Plus, he simply was not that good ar his "job" of entertaining people with a kid's game.
     

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    Attacking the CSA a century and a half later is what? Sad. Stupid. Goofy. Silly. No, just call it what it is. It's evil because it's purpose is evil. But even that is an entirely inadequate description because the historical revisionism is taking place within an almost completely false reality based upon fairy tales propagated both before the CSA was formed after it had been conquered and folded back into the USA.
    Sometimes I think about things like golly whizz what would the effect on peoples thinking be if maybe they knew the Romanov family was murdered because grampaw Alex had sent his navy over to New York. The attention spans out there really won't let something like that happen. Reckon most won't even ever know why the CSA is being attacked.
     

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    They are targeting speedy, pepe, Dr. Seuss, its only a matter of time before they go for one of my faves...Yosemite Sam
     

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    They are targeting speedy, pepe, Dr. Seuss, its only a matter of time before they go for one of my faves...Yosemite Sam
    Of course. We can't be having a flagrant 2A advocate even if he was invented as a parody and a tool of attack against the notion that gun owners are reasonable human beings.
     

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    Not canceled, but no guns


    Of course. We can't be having a flagrant 2A advocate even if he was invented as a parody and a tool of attack against the notion that gun owners are reasonable human beings.
    Hadn't really thought about it like that. Good point.
     

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    Not canceled, but no guns

    I didn't realize they took the guns out in June. Seems weird that Yosemite sam would be unarmed. I hope the classic looney toons are still around for the general public in some format. I would like to revisit them some day. I loved Saturday a.m. cartoons as a kid in the 1980's. Modern cartoons aren't the same.
     

    BigRed

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    As the "cleansing of history" marches on, I thought I would pass this along.


    It is the speech given by Mr. (Henry Cabot) Lodge, of Massachusetts, United States Senate, 1910 at the acceptance of a gift from the State of South Caroline; a sculpture of John C. Calhoun.

    The speech was delivered by a Senator from Massachusetts at a time when Senators were elected by State legislators instead of "popular vote" (pre-17th). Clearly, MA and SC were of drastically opposing views in the time of Calhoun and no doubt Lodge's speech is filled with his own bias as is any speech. Yet in it he noted the importance of history.

    It is worth reading if for no other reason than to note where we are now a mere century later. The same sculpture accepted as a gift then is now a "target for removal". Hell, in Calhoun's native State of South Carolina such memorials and gifts have already been removed.

    It is certainly sad to see the trajectory towards socialism and communism our society seems to embrace. Be that as it is, for anyone that has taken the time to read Calhoun's writtings, I believe he warned us long ago.

    It seems those whom have had the greatest blessings of Liberty are those most content to consent to her rape.
     
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