I am sure it is something not pg-rated.What the hell is a "family sex gathering"!?
I am sure it is something not pg-rated.What the hell is a "family sex gathering"!?
Y'all ain't from 'round here are ya?What the hell is a "family sex gathering"!?
I am sure it is something not pg-rated.
Y'all ain't from 'round here are ya?
I think you are conflating "voting with your feet" or voting with your dollars or boycotting a retailer with cancel culture.I dont think it is at all. Dick's doesnt get talked about as much now, its no longer the flavor of the week. Now it's amazon, netflix ( i think), disney. They're commonly talked about, and people boast about unsubscribing as if its a merit badge. You personally may not be malicious in your intent but the threads that are started about them are trying to get the word out so people stop shopping or using their services and financially hurt them. Theres just not enough muscle to get DSG to change how they operate though.
You didnt give an example so lets take the Dr. Seuss scenario. You cant force a private company to make property they own. Who was calling for them to get rid of the books? I havent heard or seen anything about them since grade school, then they stopped printing a few books, made a statement and all of a sudden they are being talked about in the news. They got exactly what they wanted, to be in the media again. Nobody cancelled them. They made that decision.
Is that stuff happening to dr seuss supporters though?I think you are conflating "voting with your feet" or voting with your dollars or boycotting a retailer with cancel culture.
I'm unaware of ANYONE fired from their job because they were pictured entering a DSG or because they uttered something nice about, or something supportive of, or something understanding of DSGs predicament, or for failing to castigate DSG.
THAT would be cancel culture.
Jordan Peterson just did a talk with Bret Weinstein where they address most of this. Essentially getting rid of religion, as the left has, without any other moral compass to follow, has led to basic sodom and Gomorrah situations and no reason or remedy to “control” it.It occurred to me the other day that our current cancel culture of removing (if not destroying) statues, cancelling books such as Dr. Seuss, and the removal of artwork because some don't like how it depicts certain groups is about the same as the Popes chopping off penises from statues.
Today, we look back in horror at the forever damaged statuary that had penises removed due to certain Popes not liking them. Some of this destruction occurred by secular folks to Egyptian artwork that 19th century archeologists brought back.
We in the west who were paying a modicum of attention groaned and bemoaned the vast destruction of ancient buildings, artwork, and other historical treasures by ISIS because it didn't conform to their interpretation of Islam.
Today our people cry and shake our heads at the great Nazi book burning pyres that were common in Germany in the 1930s. Great works of literature destroyed because it crossed some line of Nazi ideology.
Then we look at ourselves - today - now... We have become the religious and intolerant fanatics of yesteryear. I am quite certain that in the not too distant past someone was worried and the response was, "It can't happen here." Well, here it is.
I bring all of these examples up to help us verbally combat those with whom we may debate in public exactly who they are wanting to be like! When we find ourselves arguing with someone who wants to tear down a statue, stop printing a book, or cover up some art ask them, "So... when did you decide ISIS/Nazi's/Intolerant Popes were people YOU wanted to emulate? Because that is exactly what they are doing!
I deplore the intentional burning of the Library of Athens by intolerant Christians many centuries ago, yet I see them today, not Christians, but nearsighted myopic buffoons who, while trying to cloak themselves in righteous indignation are in reality mimicking ISIS, Nazi book burners, and Popes. Oh yeah, and we can throw in the junior Senator from Wisconsin Joe McCarthy too. After all, his witch hunts were not dissimilar from the ruination of people today by the woke minded.
We need to remember these similarities because when we share them in public discussions we will hopefully get those who are on the fence to see the horror and damage done to our culture and to future generations, because the Woke of today are the cultural rapists of yesteryear.
Regards,
Doug
Not just leftists, most humans can fall victim to this. Isis and Christians have both went on benders. The witch trials come to mind.This is a tactic used by leftists and anarchists to tear down anyone who opposes their politics or ideology. Their goal is to weaken and destroy our society by denying us our history, our culture, and ultimately our identity. We have to push back on them, mock them, and beat them down at every opportunity.
Boycotting, or speaking with your dollar, is not the same as elites/huge corporations dictating what you do or see.I do not like cancel culture but is it not used here often? For example Dicks sporting Goods is not well liked here so you do not buy anything from there. Because your views do not meet theirs you in turn "cancel" them. The Dr. Seuss thing was a financial decision made by his estate. They were not forced to do anything, they chose to remove the books because they felt like they would benefit financially from removing them. Amazon is another recent one here that people are against and speak out about. Is that not cancel culture?
Many would rather be sheep in a cage, fed and watered, than wild and free. But the don’t realize their error until they’re at slaughter.While I agree in principle I have come to believe that sheep (2 legged ones) are sheep because they are psychologically incapable of dealing with the reality they face. Present them with compelling evidence of a dystopian future and they are going to double down on sheeping.
Those companies picked a side rather than remaining nuetral.I dont think it is at all. Dick's doesnt get talked about as much now, its no longer the flavor of the week. Now it's amazon, netflix ( i think), disney. They're commonly talked about, and people boast about unsubscribing as if its a merit badge. You personally may not be malicious in your intent but the threads that are started about them are trying to get the word out so people stop shopping or using their services and financially hurt them. Theres just not enough muscle to get DSG to change how they operate though.
You didnt give an example so lets take the Dr. Seuss scenario. You cant force a private company to make property they own. Who was calling for them to get rid of the books? I havent heard or seen anything about them since grade school, then they stopped printing a few books, made a statement and all of a sudden they are being talked about in the news. They got exactly what they wanted, to be in the media again. Nobody cancelled them. They made that decision.
Like in davinci codeWhat the hell is a "family sex gathering"!?
eBay pulls ads for used books, so does Amazon.Is that stuff happening to dr seuss supporters though?
Ok so did dr. Seuss company not pick a side? Why are they getting treated as the victim where the others aren’t? After the Florida school shooting DSG stopped selling AR’s. They at least had a reason behind it even if I disagree. Dr Seuss estate just decided on a random day, under no pressure to remove the books.Those companies picked a side rather than remaining nuetral.
as for dr suess, there was a journalist or scholar that pointed out the “racist duplications” either on Twitter or in an article and the woke mob went to works. Suess inc bent to pressure.
again the difference here is an individual unsubscribing, even bragging, is still not cancelling that company. They are voicing their opinion, not stumping for the ruin.
I am in no way sticking up for dr suess. I think they are cowards, but the pressure came from the system, the mob, this is cancel culture.Ok so did dr. Seuss company not pick a side? Why are they getting treated as the victim where the others aren’t? After the Florida school shooting DSG stopped selling AR’s. They at least had a reason behind it even if I disagree. Dr Seuss estate just decided on a random day, under no pressure to remove the books.
as for eBay I just checked and his books are still up for sale.
I guess I’m asking where this mob of people calling specifically for them to stop publishing them is?I am in no way sticking up for dr suess. I think they are cowards, but the pressure came from the system, the mob, this is cancel culture.
perhaps eBay returned the ads, I turned it out after I initially saw the article where ads were removed on Monday or Tuesday.
I was simply trying to point out that an individual choosing to not support a business because they’ve picked a side and acted on it, does not constitute cancel culture.
On Twitter? Where the woke mob lives? The issue is something trends on Twitter and then the entire machine runs with it. The dr Sue’s thing started with a dumb tweet and caught traction then national attention. In an effort to avoid critique or whatever, dr Suess inc decided to cancel 6 books to appease the mob.I guess I’m asking where this mob of people calling specifically for them to stop publishing them is?
moving onto the second point. Was the boycotting of chick fil a a few years back not cancel culture? It is IMO. Those were individuals choosing not to support a business as well.
Didn't read or watch itLike in davinci code
Now do Starbucks... oh, and Colin KaepernickSince we have brought up Chick Fil A, let me point out the following. We stopped buying from Dick's. We did NOT stage black rifle OC events at Dick's. We did NOT pressure local governments or landlords to refuse to allow Dick's to operate in their communities or properties. We did not set out in the attempt to have Sucks eliminated from the face of the planet. We simply chose not to do business with them ourselves. By contrast, the cancel culture led by the militant LBGTQEIEIO did everything they could manage to eradicate Chick Fil A.
Can you see the difference between methods here? Allowing those we disagree with to go their own way without our participation as opposed to the cancel culture not willing to settle for anything less than the eradication of anyone who disagrees with them defines the difference between us and them.