Active shooter situation at school in Parkland, FL; reports of victims

[Kutnupe14]

Legislation was the wrong wording. There should be a path for schools to identify dangerous teens. A restraining order should keep legal forearms out of their hands.

Yeah, I've seen some nasty forearm smashes in the WWF. It was criminal what Chief Wahoo McDaniels could do.

 

[actaeon277]

I got a bite.



Actaeon

Making drugs illegal didn't get rid of them.
Why do they think making guns illegal will be ANY different?

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William Carl Davis II

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Actaeon

They have stabbings and beatings. Violent crime, per capita, is actually higher.

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Actaeon

You are also ignoring all other factors that are different between societies.
Japan has very few guns. But very high suicides. Because there are factors other than guns.

Actually, it may have been sarcasm looking at his page.

 

[churchmouse]

I'm missing fun? Dang.

Nah just a douche nozzle. It is really pointless.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Legislation was the wrong wording. There should be a path for schools to identify dangerous teens. A restraining order should keep legal forearms out of their hands.

Gotcha. But if they really really want one or another means to do harm on a large scale it is easy enough to do.

Right. Just like the requirement to have a prescription doesn't keep prescription drug abusers from getting drugs, a RO might keep a FFL from transferring a gun but it won't stop a friend, relative, or shady characters from selling it to them.

 

[Tanfodude]

About metal detectors.

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They create choke points.
Shooter then shoots people in line.

2
Who is running detector?
Someone unarmed?
Shoot him, move in to crowd.

3.
Arm detector operator.
He pays attention to people going thru.
Person back 15 people shoots him.

4.
Detector give false positives.
People start to ignore it, or calibrate it less sensitive.
This one I've seen the most.
How many people pay attention to car alarms anymore because of so many set up wrong, or accidentally triggered?

Then have armed guard on where the line is while the students goes through inspection (not necessarily a metal detector). This is the discussion that many are asking, how to prevent this. What are ways to prevent this? I'm open to anything.

We already know that the last 2 decades (which also shows the bad upbringing of the newer generation compared to before) is where the mass shootings have risen. People atttack our rights because of that. We know evil is and will always be there. This will not be the last and it will con't to happen until there is a realistic deterrent.

 

[indyartisan]

The security guard is in critical condition after being shot by the suspect according to a witness on Fox news.

 

[bwframe]

It'll be interesting to see if the security guard was targeted or one of the initial shots?

Still haven't figured exactly how the shooter entered the building have we?

 

[actaeon277]

Wasn't the shooter 18 or older?
Then why does everyone refer to him as a "kid"?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Wasn't the shooter 18 or older?
Then why does everyone refer to him as a "kid"?

Not sure but someone on FB noted that if 19 year olds didn't have access to guns, this wouldn't have happened. So apparently he was 19?

 

[actaeon277]

Not sure but someone on FB noted that if 19 year olds didn't have access to guns, this wouldn't have happened. So apparently he was 19?

When they point that out, I bring up 19 year olds are okay with guns defending the country.

 

[actaeon277]

When they point that out, I bring up 19 year olds are okay with guns defending the country.

And, that 10 year olds used to carry shotguns and .22s down broadway, and no one thought it was wrong.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

When they point that out, I bring up 19 year olds are okay with guns defending the country.

So did I.

 

[Ggreen]

Right. Just like the requirement to have a prescription doesn't keep prescription drug abusers from getting drugs, a RO might keep a FFL from transferring a gun but it won't stop a friend, relative, or shady characters from selling it to them.

I said it would keep them from legally owning. Not that it would eliminate the risk just restrict it and force them to sell illegal means to aquire a gun. The ATF was not very successful getting a weapon illegally, most teens would also have trouble.

 

[Double T]

The bodies aren't even room temperature and yet my liberal troll "friends" on facebook are calling for gun control. They don't like it when I bring up how gun control failed in this instance.

 

[Hkindiana]

[video=youtube;n-jL5VBXEtY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-jL5VBXEtY[/video]

What the heck is a "high capacity caliber weapon"?

 

[actaeon277]

The bodies aren't even room temperature and yet my liberal troll "friends" on facebook are calling for gun control. They don't like it when I bring up how gun control failed in this instance.

They never do.
They don't like it when you point out guns were illegally obtained, therefore no NICS check.
They don't like it when you point out guns were legally purchased, therefore NICS was useless.

Therefore, NICS is useless.

 

[actaeon277]

What the heck is a "high capacity caliber weapon"?

Whatever they want it to be.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I said it would keep them from legally owning. Not that it would eliminate the risk just restrict it and force them to sell illegal means to aquire a gun. The ATF was not very successful getting a weapon illegally, most teens would also have trouble.

I didn't think a teen can even buy a gun through an FFL whether he has a RO or not. No one likely knows how many guns any given person has. Circumventing the requirement to turn in any guns he might own probably isn't all that difficult. I respect that you're trying to come up with a fix to this. But even with existing laws, a person wanting to get his hands on a gun will find a way. And even if you successfully make it too difficult for him to get a gun, as we've all seen in the news fairly recently, there are other ways to injure and kill people.

 

[Ggreen]

I didn't think a teen can even buy a gun through an FFL whether he has a RO or not. No one likely knows how many guns any given person has. Circumventing the requirement to turn in any guns he might own probably isn't all that difficult. I respect that you're trying to come up with a fix to this. But even with existing laws, a person wanting to get his hands on a gun will find a way. And even if you successfully make it too difficult for him to get a gun, as we've all seen in the news fairly recently, there are other ways to injure and kill people.

You can buy a rifle at 18. It's common to be up to 19 in high school.

 

[bwframe]

This school had a cafeteria section called the "Emo Gazebo," where the outcasts hung out. Supposedly the shooter didn't even fit in here. Hmm?