Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[Ingomike]

Lmao please. Go on, tell me all about myself! I'd love to hear it.

What should be said about a guy that goes nuts trying to control someone calling the vaccine "experimental"?

 

[HoughMade]

I guests simpleton's are going to simpleton. Do you know anyone that believes the vaccine will kill, in a year or so, beyond a statistical norm?

I don't...

What vaccine ever has...or at 5 or 10 or 20 years?

 

[Ingomike]

What vaccine ever has...or at 5 or 10 or 20 years?

Don't know of any, I believe most concerned with the vaccine are concerned about long term side effects and many vaccines have had those...

 

[ditcherman]

The newer crowd doesn't know me....kinda more fun that way lol

True, and it would be interesting to know more IMO. My join date is way earlier than when I became active, so I don’t know you either, except to think it seems you bring some polarization to the conversation, from what I can dig up.
In other words, a lot of this seemed to be covered, and you jumped in, and then you said just drop it.?
This is an ongoing thing, and I am here to learn, I can suggest but have no notion of changing anyone’s mind. Just a conversation.

/rmbl

 

[jamil]

What should be said about a guy that goes nuts trying to control someone calling the vaccine "experimental"?

It's fair to call a drug that hasn't had full FDA approval "experimental". If it had gone through everything required by the approval process I wouldn't call it experimental. But it hasn't. So I do.

On the far side of that is the people who are claiming it hasn't been tested and that's not true. The drug companies are preparing their applications for approval now, which includes all the tests and data they've collected.

The FDA has to review all that and determine if the data show they're safe. That review hasn't been done and anyone who whines about calling THAT experimental needs to take their ideological blinders off. And anyone who says it's "experimental" because it hasn't been tested also needs to take their ideological blinders off.

 

[nonobaddog]

Can't we compromise and just learn to breath through our anus?

Is there a link for instructions on this anus breathing stuff?
That could be handy in elevators.

 

[jamil]

True, and it would be interesting to know more IMO. My join date is way earlier than when I became active, so I don’t know you either, except to think it seems you bring some polarization to the conversation, from what I can dig up.
In other words, a lot of this seemed to be covered, and you jumped in, and then you said just drop it.?
This is an ongoing thing, and I am here to learn, I can suggest but have no notion of changing anyone’s mind. Just a conversation.

/rmbl

The polarization goes both ways. People on here have different perspectives and beliefs about the pandemic and vaccinations. It's obvious that people on opposite ends of the belief spectrum are gonna have some polarized discussions.

But at most I'd just say mbills is just being a good apologist for his field. He's never really participated much in the political threads that I can remember, so it looks to me like he's just a bit more passionate about this subject. I mean, why not cut each other a little slack? Except for Bug. It's okay to be mean to him. He posts in teal. And he's a Buckeye.

 

[ditcherman]

The polarization goes both ways. People on here have different perspectives and beliefs about the pandemic and vaccinations. It's obvious that people on opposite ends of the belief spectrum are gonna have some polarized discussions.

But at most I'd just say mbills is just being a good apologist for his field. He's never really participated much in the political threads that I can remember, so it looks to me like he's just a bit more passionate about this subject. I mean, why not cut each other a little slack? Except for Bug. It's okay to be mean to him. He posts in teal. And he's a Buckeye.

Yea, it bothers me that he posts in teal and I generally agree with him, and a little bit that he’s a Buckeye. I’m just glad I’m so open minded.

I appreciate the fact that there’s an educated pharmacist posting. The question for everyone is ‘where did you get your info to arrive at the conclusions you have arrived at?’ IMO. From a highly sophisticated and educated source that has been played, or a wacko conspiracy site that might just be on to something?

 

[mbills2223]

Oh no.... no threat.

Just something more interesting!

I guess I don't get it.

 

[Mr. Habib]

Is there a link for instructions on this anus breathing stuff?
That could be handy in elevators.

Not to mention the 1500

 

[mbills2223]

What should be said about a guy that goes nuts trying to control someone calling the vaccine "experimental"?

Did I go nuts trying to control someone? Must've been one of my other personalities.

 

[ditcherman]

I guess I don't get it.

Not really my business but I didn’t read it as a threat at all, more like just simply changing the subject to something more like what you may find on a gun forum, or wanting to know more about you.
Don’t know him IRL, but my guess is if he wanted to threaten you you wouldn’t hear it.

 

[mbills2223]

True, and it would be interesting to know more IMO. My join date is way earlier than when I became active, so I don’t know you either, except to think it seems you bring some polarization to the conversation, from what I can dig up.
In other words, a lot of this seemed to be covered, and you jumped in, and then you said just drop it.?
This is an ongoing thing, and I am here to learn, I can suggest but have no notion of changing anyone’s mind. Just a conversation.

/rmbl

So... A dissenting view point is polarizing? Only in an echo chamber would that be considered polarizing.

 

[mbills2223]

Not really my business but I didn’t read it as a threat at all, more like just simply changing the subject to something more like what you may find on a gun forum, or wanting to know more about you.
Don’t know him IRL, but my guess is if he wanted to threaten you you wouldn’t hear it.

Now I follow

 

[jamil]

Yea, it bothers me that he posts in teal and I generally agree with him, and a little bit that he’s a Buckeye. I’m just glad I’m so open minded.

I appreciate the fact that there’s an educated pharmacist posting. The question for everyone is ‘where did you get your info to arrive at the conclusions you have arrived at?’ IMO. From a highly sophisticated and educated source that has been played, or a wacko conspiracy site that might just be on to something?

Everyone has to judge the available information for themselves and decide if it should inform their beliefs. Sometimes those conspiracy sites are onto something. Sometimes those academic sources just can't seem to free themselves from their own ideological biases. We've seen both in this pandemic.

I'll say this about the sources of information that are viewed as officially expert. They've not performed well in this pandemic. I'd go so far as to say they've failed us. And how they've failed us is in allowing ideology to influence the scientific information especially by being gatekeepers of information. But I'm way past my allowed two sentences so I'll shut up now.

 

[jamil]

So... A dissenting view point is polarizing? Only in an echo chamber would that be considered polarizing.

Well, no. It's like I said. I think it's at least as much a function of the distance between the viewpoints as it is the volume of viewpoints skewed to one side. You look at these covid threads and opinions have a decidedly right wing perspective, but still have plenty of dissenting viewpoints. Hardly an echo chamber.

 

[mbills2223]

The polarization goes both ways. People on here have different perspectives and beliefs about the pandemic and vaccinations. It's obvious that people on opposite ends of the belief spectrum are gonna have some polarized discussions.

But at most I'd just say mbills is just being a good apologist for his field. He's never really participated much in the political threads that I can remember, so it looks to me like he's just a bit more passionate about this subject. I mean, why not cut each other a little slack? Except for Bug. It's okay to be mean to him. He posts in teal. And he's a Buckeye.

Seems a fair assessment. Not really coming at this from a political standpoint here. One of my biggest frustrations throughout this ordeal is that it was made political, but then again, what isn't made political now.

 

[ditcherman]

Everyone has to judge the available information for themselves and decide if it should inform their beliefs. Sometimes those conspiracy sites are onto something. Sometimes those academic sources just can't seem to free themselves from their own ideological biases. We've seen both in this pandemic.

I'll say this about the sources of information that are viewed as officially expert. They've not performed well in this pandemic. I'd go so far as to say they've failed us. And how they've failed us is in allowing ideology to influence the scientific information especially by being gatekeepers of information. But I'm way past my allowed two sentences so I'll shut up now.

Well I never should have tried to make that joke. Just forget I ever said anything!
And the rest of it, well said.

 

[ditcherman]

So... A dissenting view point is polarizing? Only in an echo chamber would that be considered polarizing.

The only thing worse than an echo chamber is hypocrisy. So no, I’m not in it for that.
Didn’t think you were being polarizing here necessarily
The polarizing part came from my idea that while I don’t know you very well, there are threads on here wanting to permaban you and simultaneously make you the king mod or something.
That comment was more about the long term history, and I could be off base on it, not sure.
Sometimes people like to argue just for arguments sake, and just sorting that out.

 

[jamil]

The only thing worse than an echo chamber is hypocrisy. So no, I’m not in it for that.
Didn’t think you were being polarizing here necessarily
The polarizing part came from my idea that while I don’t know you very well, there are threads on here wanting to permaban you and simultaneously make you the king mod or something.
That comment was more about the long term history, and I could be off base on it, not sure.
Sometimes people like to argue just for arguments sake, and just sorting that out.

It's just a longstanding joke that grew into something kinda over the top. I think Jagee started it maybe. I don't even remember.