Vaccine coercion/bribery

[Kirk Freeman]

I posted it for Kirk's benefit, I don't really care about the Nobel thing, the link just happened to address it as well.

Appreciate it, but the Media misreported that the dewormer received the Nobel Prize, it did not and Reuters made the correction.

Campbell and Omura used it to kill worms in humans, saving hundreds of thousands of people from such plights as river blindness.

The dewormer is being hyped because of politics and nothing more.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

The dewormer is being hyped because of politics and nothing more.

So just like the vaccine. Huh.

 

[buckwacker]

Oh look, more lies and half truths.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So just like the vaccine. Huh.

I do not believe the vaccine is hyped because of politics. I DO believe the reaction to the vaccine is pure politics.

E.g., the now sitting Vice President's evolving position on the "Trump vaccine" from last year to present.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Oh look, more lies and half truths.

Oh, look, another pup that got spanked.

Sorry to be the cold bucket of truth that got poured all over the ragefest that is INGO. I do it from time to time.

 

[buckwacker]

Oh, look, another pup that got spanked.

Sorry to be the cold bucket of truth that got poured all over the ragefest that is INGO. I do it from time to time.

You're a lawyer, you wouldn't recognize the truth if it ran you over like a truck. It's what happens when you spend a career twisting it.

 

[firecadet613]

Look, people are taking dewormers, dosed for horses, cows, pigs and humans. It is literally insane to listen to the hucksters pushing dewormers. Ivermectin is great for parasites, and if you are full of certain roundworms, it is just the ticket.

However, to speak of it as some sort of magic bullet against a virus is to endanger lives and bolster the cloud of ignorance of science that hangs over society. Let's stop listening to the grifters pushing this filth.

Kirk, you may want to look at other countries - India and Japan. Ivermectin worked there.

Big Pharma is the reason it's essentially banned here, it's cheap. There is no $$$ in it.

 

[ditcherman]

Oh, look, another pup that got spanked.

Sorry to be the cold bucket of truth that got poured all over the ragefest that is INGO. I do it from time to time.

You did nothing.

 

[buckwacker]

You did nothing.

Oh, in his mind he did. It's called narcissism.

 

[ditcherman]

I do not believe the vaccine is hyped because of politics. I DO believe the reaction to the vaccine is pure politics.

E.g., the now sitting Vice President's evolving position on the "Trump vaccine" from last year to present.

Wow!
Just wanted to get that quoted.

“I do not believe the vaccine is hyped because of politics”

But just above, you say the dewormer IS being hyped because of politics.

Wow.

 

[wtburnette]

That's dewormer dosed for humans. It kills roundworms, not a virus.

The "I did my own research" crowd is taking horse dewormer, don't do that.

‘You are not a horse’: FDA urges people to stop taking animal deworming drug to treat COVID-19

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has received several reports of patients who have been hospitalized after they used a horse dewormer to treat or prevent COVID-19, NBC News reports.

www.wsls.com

I would tell everyone to wash their hands, stop licking doorknobs and get the vaccine, but that would not accomplish much here.

Federal government, outside limited circumstances, has no authority to tell anyone to get a vaccine. The States can mandate all they want. Better course of action is education, so many people went to government schools and literally know absolutely nothing about science of any sort, coupled with incentives.

Time will be the best aid. Once fear of the unknown passes and the hucksters' din softens, we can do better than a 49% vaccination rate.

So you advocate even healthy people under 75 to get the jab? Why? The chance of having a serious issue with the virus for healthy people under 75 is extremely low. That's why no one, especially the government, should tell someone else what their decision should be in regards to the jab.

Also, there have been multiple links posted about Ivermectin having anti-viral properties, so when you keep saying it's only used as a dewormer, you would be wrong. It's been prescribed for multiple things that aren't worms.

 

[ditcherman]

No wonder our courts, judicial system, and whole country is a screwed up mess, if people like this are allowed to make arguments, influence decisions, and be looked to by the ignoramuses sitting above them.

 

[jsx1043]

“Dewormer” is being used very specifically in this case to invoke an insulting tone and flagrantly skirt the common boundaries of serious discussion, not to mention forum rules of treating members with respect and courtesy. It’s meant to immediately establish the argumentative high ground, while simultaneously insulting and demeaning oppositional viewpoints.

Don’t fall for the equivalent of, “When did you stop beating your wife?”

 

[BigRed]

I do not give much weight to legal advice from a medical doctor just as I do not give much weight to medical advice from an attorney.

No offense intended.... just seems to work out better that way.

 

[bobzilla]

“Dewormer” is being used very specifically in this case to invoke an insulting tone and flagrantly skirt the common boundaries of serious discussion, not to mention forum rules of treating members with respect and courtesy. It’s meant to immediately establish the argumentative high ground, while simultaneously insulting and demeaning oppositional viewpoints.

Don’t fall for the equivalent of, “When did you stop beating your wife?”

Yes it’s called trolling and has gotten others banned for it.

 

[phylodog]

Appreciate it, but the Media misreported that the dewormer received the Nobel Prize, it did not and Reuters made the correction.

Campbell and Omura used it to kill worms in humans, saving hundreds of thousands of people from such plights as river blindness.

The dewormer is being hyped because of politics and nothing more.

Or you could read what I posted and realize that it does have something to offer outside of being a dewormer. I understand that at this point you’re fully committed to your mistaken line of thinking and you’ve cast far too many insults to back up now but you should actually look into it. Whichever “expert” you’ve decided to hitch your wagon to is mistaken and feeding you incorrect information.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Look, people are taking dewormers, dosed for horses, cows, pigs and humans. It is literally insane to listen to the hucksters pushing dewormers. Ivermectin is great for parasites, and if you are full of certain roundworms, it is just the ticket.

However, to speak of it as some sort of magic bullet against a virus is to endanger lives and bolster the cloud of ignorance of science that hangs over society. Let's stop listening to the grifters pushing this filth.

So, for the 4th time, are you telling me medications have never been used for anything other than their intended purpose?


Stop skirting the question. It’s things like that why we believe you’re just trolling. You know we aren’t discussing the horse dewormer. Doctors don’t prescribe horse dewormer to people. That **** might work in whatever clown court you attend, but it doesn’t fly here.

 

[foszoe]

Appreciate it, but the Media misreported that the dewormer received the Nobel Prize, it did not and Reuters made the correction.

Campbell and Omura used it to kill worms in humans, saving hundreds of thousands of people from such plights as river blindness.

The dewormer is being hyped because of politics and nothing more.

I can appreciate what you say here except for the last line.

If you are saying that people running out to Tractor Supply and buying horse dewormer and then self dosing are acting irrationally, I would tend to agree with you, but it seems a distinction should be drawn between that crowd and the crowd that, in conjunction with their doctor, are taking Ivermectin in tablet form which is the human formulation not the animal formulation.

I sometimes take a very old drug that was meant for one thing originally but an off label use is that it makes one sleep more healthy. It's original use has long since been superceded but its a lot cheaper than current sleep drugs and for me, it works.

Then of course, Viagra! MANkind's favorite drug that got marketed for a "side-effect" that WOEMANkind maybe didn't like so much.

 

[rooster]

That's dewormer dosed for humans. It kills roundworms, not a virus.

remember when viagra was a heart drug? We are only beginning to scratch the surface of what the molecules we already have (drugs) can be used for.

anti parasite drugs show a lot of promise in the treatment of cancers already. So why should we limit a drug to the first intended use if its potentially effective against other disease?

this class of drug has effects that our current science doesn’t fully understand. What we do know for certain is that anti parasite drugs do more than kill roundworms.


Ivermectin treats breast cancer

Use of the Anti-Parasitic Drug Ivermectin to Treat Breast... : Oncology Times

An abstract is unavailable.

journals.lww.com

mebendazole might treat pancreatic cancer ( promising in mice)

Johns Hopkins Study: Anti-Parasitic Drug Slows Pancreatic Cancer in Mice

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Anti parasite drugs stop tumor growth.

Targeting tumor hypoxia and mitochondrial metabolism with anti-parasitic drugs to improve radiation response in high-grade gliomas - Journal of Experimental & Clinical Cancer Research

High-grade gliomas (HGGs), including glioblastoma and diffuse intrinsic pontine glioma, are amongst the most fatal brain tumors. These tumors are associated with a dismal prognosis with a median survival of less than 15 months. Radiotherapy has been the mainstay of treatment of HGGs for decades...

jeccr.biomedcentral.com

 

[wtburnette]

I can appreciate what you say here except for the last line.

If you are saying that people running out to Tractor Supply and buying horse dewormer and then self dosing are acting irrationally, I would tend to agree with you, but it seems a distinction should be drawn between that crowd and the crowd that, in conjunction with their doctor, are taking Ivermectin in tablet form which is the human formulation not the animal formulation.

The thing about that is, from what I understand, most of that was misreported. The numbers of cases called into poison control were much lower than what was reported if I'm remembering correctly. The media is blowing this up as if every Trump supporter in the country is taking horse dewormer and being poisoned, when that is far from being true.