The Official Hot Rod Thread - Part 4: Burnouts for Distance

[bobzilla]

I was working turn 1 at Putnam Park waiting for you all to slide off

Nah, T1 at putnam is easy even in the wet. 4 on the other hand can get a little tricky and 7 proved to be the 911's achilles heel!

 

[jeffsqartan]

I wanna get this vibration sorted in the Mustang so I can feel comfortable on a road course. We put the cage in 2 years ago and then I realized the vibration was so bad I didn't like getting the car over 80mph. No way I could do a road course under 80 lmao

 

[Jaybird1980]

Yeah, a phone number would be cool . The thing that has me scratching my head is that I can't find a preload spacer anywhere listed or a part number.

I'm thinking it's no harm to put it together like the FSM shows , set the correct preload torque and check the pattern and backlash. At least I would have a baseline to start.

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[bobzilla]

I wanna get this vibration sorted in the Mustang so I can feel comfortable on a road course. We put the cage in 2 years ago and then I realized the vibration was so bad I didn't like getting the car over 80mph. No way I could do a road course under 80 lmao

I mean.... some of the Sunday cup cars are that slow but they never lift

 

[jeffsqartan]

I mean.... some of the Sunday cup cars are that slow but they never lift

lmao imagine the V8 Mustang getting paired in Sunday Cup. Big ouch.
What's the highest mph you saw at Putnam?

 

[bobzilla]

lmao imagine the V8 Mustang getting paired in Sunday Cup. Big ouch.
What's the highest mph you saw at Putnam?

In the morning wet session 89, afternoon dry 96

 

[jeffsqartan]

In the morning wet session 89, afternoon dry 96

yeah so you'd be blowing past me. Gosh, I gotta get it fixed.

 

[jd4320t]

Nah, T1 at putnam is easy even in the wet. 4 on the other hand can get a little tricky and 7 proved to be the 911's achilles heel!

Yeah I honestly expected more cars to go off. That’s the wettest track I’ve seen in my two years working there.

 

[bobzilla]

I was there in 2020 when the driver was ejected through the window of his NC when the factory belt failed. That was wet. Like rivers flowing over the track wet

 

[bobzilla]

yeah so you'd be blowing past me. Gosh, I gotta get it fixed.

I mean in all fairness probably going to be up your ass forcing a point by anyway.

 

[femurphy77]

So last week was wild. One Lap of America, 3900 miles, 8 days, 7 tracks, 2 skid pads and an autox.
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Now for the words..... We were seeded 81st, last in out Sundae Cup class. Finished secnd in class, 65 overall. Had great sessions at Nashville, Hallett and Putnam. Had fun all week and very little sleep. tracks hit: Grissom for Autox, Nashville Superspeedway, Carolina Motorsports Park, Lanier Oval, Barber, Hallett, Heartland Park Topeka and Putnam.

I've left a lot of rubber at Hallett as well as crewing for a GT1 Corvette for several years. Much fun. Our driver bought some SBC powered Lola one year because the corvette wasn't fast enough. Took it straight to the track for a race weekend the minute he got it home. No check ups, fluid changes, NUTHIN'. Right down to the concrete blocks that passed as tires on it.

He took it out for a practice session and came in slinging his helmet across the pits because the "the GD thing is slower than the F'N corvette". Buddy and I find a throttle stop behind the pedal only giving him about 3/8 pedal so we readjust it and send him out for the next practice session. He came in after one lap and said "whatever you did to the car, undo it NOW. I'm not a good enough driver".

We really enjoyed that moment.

 

[bobzilla]

I did parade laps at Hallett in '18 when we were there for OL. I loved it. In the wet, parts of it reminded me of Mid-O where it's just ice on line, off line there was some grip but crossing over was butt puckery. When the afternoon session hit and we were in 90% dry, the power my Rio makes over the 2's and Fit really made a difference coming out of 1 up hill and coming through the Bitch. I could late brake the hell outta the bitch, drop to second and just as the front starts to settle and the rear rotated I could power out. I could visiby see myself catching the Fit and pulling away from the 2. One of my favorite tracks.

 

[churchmouse]

Yeah, a phone number would be cool . The thing that has me scratching my head is that I can't find a preload spacer anywhere listed or a part number.

I'm thinking it's no harm to put it together like the FSM shows , set the correct preload torque and check the pattern and backlash. At least I would have a baseline to start.

As I mentioned already "YOU HAVE TO SET" this so no single spacer will be available outside as rebuild kit for that housing.

 

[churchmouse]

I was working turn 1 at Putnam Park waiting for you all to slide off

So, he was pushing it hard yes....

 

[jeffsqartan]

I mean in all fairness probably going to be up your ass forcing a point by anyway.

I whooped you when you had the truck, I'll whoop you with that wind-up toy, too.

 

[Jaybird1980]

As I mentioned already "YOU HAVE TO SET" this so no single spacer will be available outside as rebuild kit for that housing.

I'm pretty sure he understands he will have to adjust it using shims, but he appears to possibly be missing a part or 2.

The pinion spacer circled in red is not there and possibly the slinger circled in yellow is missing as well.

 

[churchmouse]

I'm pretty sure he understands he will have to adjust it using shims, but he appears to possibly be missing a part or 2.

The pinion spacer circled in red is not there and possibly the slinger circled in yellow is missing as well.

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Thats why I mentioned the re-build kits I have always gotten through Jegs/Summit. Complete kits with ample shims to set one up in a proper manner.

I always "Stress" this as I have in the past known at least 2 people that cheeped out and attempted to assemble them with improper shims or just none at all. And yes, failed miserably.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Thats why I mentioned the re-build kits I have always gotten through Jegs/Summit. Complete kits with ample shims to set one up in a proper manner.

I always "Stress" this as I have in the past known at least 2 people that cheeped out and attempted to assemble them with improper shims or just none at all. And yes, failed miserably.

Finding the shims and bearings is no issue, sounds like he is having a hard time finding the spacer. I don't believe that it would come in a rebuild kit, I'm sure it's meant to just be reused.

 

[churchmouse]

Finding the shims and bearings is no issue, sounds like he is having a hard time finding the spacer. I don't believe that it would come in a rebuild kit, I'm sure it's meant to just be reused.

I am willing to bet lunch at a decent pub for burgers fries and an adult beverage that it is included. Every kit OI have ever purchased had all the parts needed. Crush sleeves etc for the housing in hand.
The last 44 I did was one I transplanted into a 1964 Chevy Custom 100 I believe it was called. Nicknamed the beast by my friends. And with good reason. It was a beast.
The Chevy axles were not up to the task and failed in short order under the strain of the 44" monster Mudders and 500 HP small block. It was pissed off. And I loved it.

The beast in crappy polaroid...

 

[Jaybird1980]

I am willing to bet lunch at a decent pub for burgers fries and an adult beverage that it is included. Every kit OI have ever purchased had all the parts needed. Crush sleeves etc for the housing in hand.
The last 44 I did was one I transplanted into a 1964 Chevy Custom 100 I believe it was called. Nicknamed the beast by my friends. And with good reason. It was a beast.
The Chevy axles were not up to the task and failed in short order under the strain of the 44" monster Mudders and 500 HP small block. It was pissed off. And I loved it.

The beast in crappy polaroid...

I'll take that bet. Mainly since I don't think I'll be in the Indy area and you won't be up here in the far north anytime soon, all though if you're I would definitely meet up for some grub.

If it was a crush sleeve I would agree it would be in the kit, since it needs replaced everytime. Since this spacer is a solid one I would think it would just be a reuse the original equipment thing.

Love the ol Chevy.