The Libertarian Party Race is Filling Up?

[pudly]

He's been pretty consistent on this. I take him at his word.

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What religion are Nazis?

It's not a question of religion. The point is that Johnson took the coercive, statist position here.

 

[Dead Duck]

What religion are Nazis?

Anti-Judaism?

 

[dusty88]

I have been reading his positions on Reason's FB feed. I detest his social justice stance it leads to a complete discounting of private property rights (not to mention religious rights, but I have noticed those seem to be widely rejected by the liberatarians.). I also saw the article where he wants some kind of scheme to subsidize incomes... I got through the first paragraph, my head exploded and I moved along. I probably could have voted for the LP this year.

No he didn't.

He often says he is "open to..." discussing an idea when someone asks him something. Someone asked him about minimum incomes and he used that phrase.

As an aside, I have heard some rational commentaries that it would at least be better to subsidize incomes in a transparent, calculated way than to have a plethora of tax code and aid packages that mask some of the spending. But that's a more detailed conversation. the point is he did not say that he "wants" it.

 

[YahwehsBattleAxe]

I tend to think that this time around, the third party candidates are going to hurt the democrats worse than the republicans. However, I wouldn't rule out Clinton winning. I'm afraid of vote fraud and this thing being rigged just like how they screwed Bernie.

 

[cobber]

A new party on the horizon?

Second look at a third party? New poll places dead gorilla ahead of Green Party candidate ? twitchy.com

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

A new party on the horizon?

Second look at a third party? New poll places dead gorilla ahead of Green Party candidate ? twitchy.com

I think I'd rather have a dead gorilla as president than any of the candidates that get mentioned in the polling.

 

[cobber]

I think I'd rather have a dead gorilla as president than any of the candidates that get mentioned in the polling.

You have a point, sir!

 

[BugI02]

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I tend to think that this time around, the third party candidates are going to hurt the democrats worse than the republicans. However, I wouldn't rule out Clinton winning. I'm afraid of vote fraud and this thing being rigged just like how they screwed Bernie.

As well you should be

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Support For 3rd Party Candidates Is Seeing Unprecedented Growth | RedState

 

[printcraft]

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I made a thread on this type of thing a couple of years ago and was laughed off. He has a better voter turn out than kim jong un.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I made a thread on this type of thing a couple of years ago and was laughed off. He has a better voter turn out than kim jong un.

If it were true, sure. Not to say it doesn't happen, but in this case... it didn't.

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/pdf_bo...11062012officialResultsbyPrecinctCategory.HTM

Obama/Biden - 447,232
Romney/Ryan - 190,651

 

[Clarity]

Support For 3rd Party Candidates Is Seeing Unprecedented Growth | RedState

I've been giving this a lot of thought. Even if you don't agree with anything a third party stands for, I think one should consider voting for it. There is absolutely zero chance of a third party winning in this election, BUT if that party reaches certain benchmarks, it is eligible for campaign funds and to participate in debates. Whatever third party met those benchmarks, it, and the other two parties, would begin to morph around each other. A third choice might drive our political discourse in a positive direction. To me, this is a better course of action than not voting at all. (I, personally, cannot vote for either Trump or Clinton.)

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Support For 3rd Party Candidates Is Seeing Unprecedented Growth | RedState

A shame Johnson is viewed as the only alternative.
Constitution Party Candidate, Darrell Castle, Says He's More Libertarian Than Gary Johnson - Liberty Hangout

 

[dusty88]

A shame Johnson is viewed as the only alternative.
Constitution Party Candidate, Darrell Castle, Says He's More Libertarian Than Gary Johnson - Liberty Hangout

I agree with the problem, but I doubt that Castle or anyone else will have ballot access everywhere. Johnson almost certainly will. That may be another problem we need to address. And if you just can't vote for any of those with ballot access, then I think voting for someone else or even not voting at all is better than endorsing the corrupt system.

 

[BugI02]

I've been giving this a lot of thought. Even if you don't agree with anything a third party stands for, I think one should consider voting for it. There is absolutely zero chance of a third party winning in this election, BUT if that party reaches certain benchmarks, it is eligible for campaign funds and to participate in debates. Whatever third party met those benchmarks, it, and the other two parties, would begin to morph around each other. A third choice might drive our political discourse in a positive direction. To me, this is a better course of action than not voting at all. (I, personally, cannot vote for either Trump or Clinton.)

I read or heard an analysis of this quite some time ago. I might have even posted it/about it. The consensus was that the system would pretty quickly converge on two parties again, although perhaps not the same two

 

[jamil]

I read or heard an analysis of this quite some time ago. I might have even posted it/about it. The consensus was that the system would pretty quickly converge on two parties again, although perhaps not the same two

The natural conclusion of our voting system is a two party system. It's like cutthroat penuchle. Two sides gang up against the third and then the two sides slug it out.

 

[Clarity]

I read or heard an analysis of this quite some time ago. I might have even posted it/about it. The consensus was that the system would pretty quickly converge on two parties again, although perhaps not the same two

Perhaps, but that would take some time, and it would at least push the debate in ways that would engage a larger slice of the electorate. But then again, never have so many been so alienated by their choices for president. It isn't a foregone conclusion that the two parties left standing would be the two parties that we have now. Some more debate and more ideas would be a good thing. I no longer would consider myself a republican at this point. I stand for maximum liberty, equal rights, and fiscal responsibility. There is no party that speaks to me just now. In a three party system, perhaps one party would be the voice of reason (as I see it), and appeal to the disaffected middle.

 

[jamil]

Perhaps, but that would take some time, and it would at least push the debate in ways that would engage a larger slice of the electorate. But then again, never have so many been so alienated by their choices for president. It isn't a foregone conclusion that the two parties left standing would be the two parties that we have now. Some more debate and more ideas would be a good thing. I no longer would consider myself a republican at this point. I stand for maximum liberty, equal rights, and fiscal responsibility. There is no party that speaks to me just now. In a three party system, perhaps one party would be the voice of reason (as I see it), and appeal to the disaffected middle.

One cycle. Then back to 2-party.

 

[ATM]

... To me, this is a better course of action than not voting at all. (I, personally, cannot vote for either Trump or Clinton.)

I'm still torn between voting for the 3rd most evil on the ballot (Johnson/LP) or not voting.

A shame Johnson is viewed as the only alternative.
Constitution Party Candidate, Darrell Castle, Says He's More Libertarian Than Gary Johnson - Liberty Hangout

If we had a 4th most evil choice on the ballot, I'd have more to consider, but I'm not planning to write in a candidate.

 

[BugI02]

Perhaps, but that would take some time, and it would at least push the debate in ways that would engage a larger slice of the electorate. But then again, never have so many been so alienated by their choices for president. It isn't a foregone conclusion that the two parties left standing would be the two parties that we have now. Some more debate and more ideas would be a good thing. I no longer would consider myself a republican at this point. I stand for maximum liberty, equal rights, and fiscal responsibility. There is no party that speaks to me just now. In a three party system, perhaps one party would be the voice of reason (as I see it), and appeal to the disaffected middle.

One cycle. Then back to 2-party.

A good reference would be the elections of 1912 followed by reconvergence in 1916