The General Technology Thread

[Phase2]

This sounds interesting. The NY Times is opening up a set of information/tools that they use for their reporters to make them harder to dox and protect their privacy. I haven't gone through it yet, but I've bookmarked it for follow-up.

How to Dox Yourself on the Internet

 

[IndyBeerman]

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[actaeon277]

This sounds interesting. The NY Times is opening up a set of information/tools that they use for their reporters to make them harder to dox and protect their privacy. I haven't gone through it yet, but I've bookmarked it for follow-up.

How to Dox Yourself on the Internet

Well, they only want to dox others.
It's "no fair" if it gets done to them.

 

[Phase2]

True. But then, I've also read articles of interviews with criminals who point out how they pick houses to rob or victims to attack. Still useful info.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republican-jack-dorsey

Billionaire Republican buys major Twitter stake, may oust CEO amid GOP concerns of bias, reports say

 

[jamil]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-paul-singer-republican-jack-dorsey

Billionaire Republican buys major Twitter stake, may oust CEO amid GOP concerns of bias, reports say

Yeah, Sargon said something about that earlier. I didn’t think it would amount to much, but if it did, I’d be alright with that. I guess it’s how the game is played now.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

A sneaky attempt to end encryption is worming its way through Congress

 

[actaeon277]

 

[actaeon277]

[video=youtube;oJL9MasBFvM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJL9MasBFvM[/video]

 

[JettaKnight]

A sneaky attempt to end encryption is worming its way through Congress

I couldn't exactly figure it out from that article (which wasn't great writing), but it certainly doesn't "end encryption".

 

[jamil]

I couldn't exactly figure it out from that article (which wasn't great writing), but it certainly doesn't "end encryption".

A better article at Wired.

https://www.wired.com/story/earn-it-act-sneak-attack-on-encryption/

It doesn’t specifically call out encryption. But adding back doors for encryption could be the choice some content providers are left with. These companies aren’t responsible for content now. What the new law proposed would do is make them earn their “immunity”. So until they demonstrate that they’re implementing the committee’s recommendations, they’re on the hook for the content of their content creators. I don’t think that’s a good law to have.

 

[JettaKnight]

A better article at Wired.

https://www.wired.com/story/earn-it-act-sneak-attack-on-encryption/

It doesn’t specifically call out encryption. But adding back doors for encryption could be the choice some content providers are left with. These companies aren’t responsible for content now. What the new law proposed would do is make them earn their “immunity”. So until they demonstrate that they’re implementing the committee’s recommendations, they’re on the hook for the content of their content creators. I don’t think that’s a good law to have.

Lawmakers get damned for created tech laws, because "the old lawyers don't understand tech." But, here it looks like there's a law with a whole lot of, "we get a bunch of actual tech guys together to figure it out later."


I think for this, TL/DR is, "you want to do end-to-end encrypted social media? OK, if you do that, then you better be able to show that you're actively working to make sure your users aren't using it for kiddie porn. Otherwise, you can't claim in court that you as a provider shouldn't be responsible for your users' actions."


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"Look, if you're going to hide all your users from the police, then you better be policing it yourself or you'll be SOL in court."



Facebook has both the money and technology to actually police their users, so they're backing it. They also know that all their smaller rivals are going to suffer from this.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Lawmakers get damned for created tech laws, because "the old lawyers don't understand tech." But, here it looks like there's a law with a whole lot of, "we get a bunch of actual tech guys together to figure it out later."


I think for this, TL/DR is, "you want to do end-to-end encrypted social media? OK, if you do that, then you better be able to show that you're actively working to make sure your users aren't using it for kiddie porn. Otherwise, you can't claim in court that you as a provider shouldn't be responsible for your users' actions."


--- or ---


"Look, if you're going to hide all your users from the police, then you better be policing it yourself or you'll be SOL in court."



Facebook has both the money and technology to actually police their users, so they're backing it. They also know that all their smaller rivals are going to suffer from this.

I know... slippery slope and all that, but I have a hard time getting my give-a-**** meter to even move for content providers that allow kiddie porn to be transmitted over their platforms. I'd be okay with public hangings if caught. Torture would be even better. Perhaps drawing and quartering. And that goes for the consumers of that content too.

 

[KLB]

I know... slippery slope and all that, but I have a hard time getting my give-a-**** meter to even move for content providers that allow kiddie porn to be transmitted over their platforms. I'd be okay with public hangings if caught. Torture would be even better. Perhaps drawing and quartering. And that goes for the consumers of that content too.

So you are in favor of the government being able to see all Internet communication to possibly try to catch some people sharing kiddie porn?

That is right there with the that was in the "Patriot" Act. I am not in favor in giving them any more power to surveil the people in this country. Not for kiddie porn, not for drugs, and not for terrorists.

 

[bwframe]

AT&T and Comcast improve internet access in response to COVID-19

 

[JettaKnight]

AT&T and Comcast improve internet access in response to COVID-19

I'm not sure if that's altruistic or weaselly.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Weasily.

If it were altruistic they'd be giving us ALL massive discounts. This is just an excuse to grab new accounts. Just like a crack dealer, the first hit is free.

 

[JettaKnight]

So you are in favor of the government being able to see all Internet communication to possibly try to catch some people sharing kiddie porn?

That is right there with the that was in the "Patriot" Act. I am not in favor in giving them any more power to surveil the people in this country. Not for kiddie porn, not for drugs, and not for terrorists.

Indeed. They say it's for kiddie porn, but it will be used for a lot, lot more. Kiddie porn is a way to drum up support for the endeavor.


If I understand, this isn't just giving alphabet agencies carte blanche, but making sure that if they have a warrant they can see the content.


End-to-end encryption means no one at all except Alice and Bob can see the content. AFAIK, those sort of application are limited. If I upload a picture, it travels to content provider encrypted, but then is stored unencrypted.



I wouldn't trust any social media platform - remember, you aren't the customer, you're the product being sold to advertisers.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Indeed. They say it's for kiddie porn, but it will be used for a lot, lot more. Kiddie porn is a way to drum up support for the endeavor.


If I understand, this isn't just giving alphabet agencies carte blanche, but making sure that if they have a warrant they can see the content.


End-to-end encryption means no one at all except Alice and Bob can see the content. AFAIK, those sort of application are limited. If I upload a picture, it travels to content provider encrypted, but then is stored unencrypted.



I wouldn't trust any social media platform - remember, you aren't the customer, you're the product being sold to advertisers.

Yep there were quite a few alphabet agencies as well as idiots who dont understand civil liberties ranting about how awful it was that Apple wouldnt help crack iphone encryption of the San Bernadino shooters. Apple knew it would be a major security breach if they helped and put the rest of us at risk of unreasonable searches. Whats next?

 

[jedi]

I dont like that bill but there already is end to end encryption software out there to use. You cant really stop it. Granted this is targeting phones which are common now a days with all the data vs using a computer to encrypt and then send to someone that info.