The DOJ took Cody Wilson's "DEFCAD" 3D-print gun site down. Cody sued, and won.

[HoughMade]

Why young (18+)? Because he wasn't looking for a relationship. She was on a sugar daddy website. This, so far, isn't a guy who set out to have sex or film underage girls. He was lied to, paid for her "time" and engaged in intimate acts (allegedly).

How do you know he was lied to?

 

[Dead Duck]

How do you know he was lied to?

Because it came from a girl.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

So, I guess nobody cares he paid her for sex? Is prostitution only illegal on street corners? If you do it online, it’s totally fine now?

The underage thing... I guess gut feeling says he never asked about it or was told. Being on a site that requires you to “click if you are over 18” is kinda her saying she is and him assuming she was honest by making her account there. I’m sure those details will be revealed later tho.

 

[HoughMade]

I'm considering buying guns on Armslist by trusting every representation the sellers make.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I'm considering buying guns on Armslist by trusting every representation the sellers make.

Just don’t stick your manhood in it.

 

[Alamo]

So, I guess nobody cares he paid her for sex? Is prostitution only illegal on street corners? If you do it online, it’s totally fine now?

The underage thing... I guess gut feeling says he never asked about it or was told. Being on a site that requires you to “click if you are over 18” is kinda her saying she is and him assuming she was honest by making her account there. I’m sure those details will be revealed later tho.

I think the prostitution aspect is far less serious than boffing underage kids, and so does the State of Texas. Straight prostitution is a Class A Misdemeanor, sexual assault of a child is Second Degree Felony. Sorry but going to a site called SugarDaddies or whatever for "female companionship" and expecting a click to assure complete reliability doesn't pass the reasonable person test. I would bet that that website has all kinds of stipulations that it only provides consenting adults a way to meet, relies on all subscribers to be honest, blah blah blah. Thus it puts vetting your date squarely on your shoulders (as does the law). The site's owners will argue that what Cody and the girl did was completely outside the bounds of the agreement they clicked on at the website, and they're shocked, shocked, that prostitution and sexual assault occurred. I'll bet they cancel Cody's membership even.

And barring some unusual unknown exoneration popping up soon, I look down on Cody who makes neat guns more than Jared because of the stench he just inflicted on the 2A. And I think Jared was creepy scumbag.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Just don’t stick your manhood in it.

STAY OUT OF MY BEDROOM BIG GOV...oh, wait, yeah that's actually pretty solid advice.

So, I guess nobody cares he paid her for sex?

Honestly? No. Assuming no human trafficking and if she were of age to consent, meh. Now if he knew she was underage, or reasonably should have known, completely different ballgame. If someone wants to pay or be paid for what they could do for free, while not exactly what I'd consider moral behavior, not something I'm going to get worked up over.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Thank you! Wasn’t sure why it wasn’t mentioned before, seems at the least it would be an added charge but I’m not a lawyer and have no clue how that works. As for the underage thing, I get what you’re saying with the verifying age on the site not being a reasonable person test that would be reliable enough to make the assumption she is of legal age, but if he wasn’t informed of her age does he have a duty to ask since the place they met requires her to be an adult? As someone else said earlier, couldn’t that be in the same category as meeting someone in a bar, where they’re required to be of a certain age to be in that area? Just curious cause I really don’t know how the online dating thing works, I prefer to meet my women in person (before I got married that is)

 

[Hatin Since 87]

STAY OUT OF MY BEDROOM BIG GOV...oh, wait, yeah that's actually pretty solid advice.

LOL.

Wasnt sure if prostitution was being treated differently with online dating becoming so much more popular today or if it just wasn’t an issue in comparison to the underage charge.

 

[actaeon277]

...
https://nypost.com/2018/09/20/man-b...-flies-to-taiwan-amid-sex-assault-accusation/

One wonders how INGO would have treated Jared Fogle is he made guns instead of fronting a sandwich franchise. In any event, just allegations at this stage.

"My side", or the "other side"... if he's guilty, follow through with proscribed punishment. If he's innocent, let him go.
Make sure one way or the other.

 

[Dead Duck]

So...
Do we have a picture of this girl yet?

 

[Fargo]

LOL.

Wasnt sure if prostitution was being treated differently with online dating becoming so much more popular today or if it just wasn’t an issue in comparison to the underage charge.

Almost certainly still illegal, but usually a misdemeanor charge so they may not have bothered in comparison to the Felonies.

Dude sounds scummy and I’m not surprised he ran. Most any chance he had of a jury nullifying based on the age issue probably walked due to the nature of the transaction.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Thank you! Wasn’t sure why it wasn’t mentioned before, seems at the least it would be an added charge...

It could be, but it's very routine not to charge misdemeanors along with high level felonies. The "main charge" here is a level 2 felony, so potential decades in jail. Prostitution/soliciting is a misdemeanor, and at least locally it's a small fine and time served sort of thing. Not worth bothering with when you've already got the felony charge. Especially when it can be confusing to a jury. To make the underage thing stick you have to argue one side doesn't have the legal authority to consent. If one side doesn't consent, is it prostitution or rape? See the issue and why it's not worth it to charge it?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

One wonders how INGO would have treated Jared Fogle is he made guns instead of fronting a sandwich franchise. In any event, just allegations at this stage.

Fair question, but hard to answer. Fogle had several more crimes than just banging a slightly underage girl, one that would have possibly been legal in this state. IIRC Possession of child porn and solicitation of the same with much younger girls.

So, I guess nobody cares he paid her for sex? Is prostitution only illegal on street corners? If you do it online, it’s totally fine now?

Honestly? No. Assuming no human trafficking and if she were of age to consent, meh. Now if he knew she was underage, or reasonably should have known, completely different ballgame. If someone wants to pay or be paid for what they could do for free, while not exactly what I'd consider moral behavior, not something I'm going to get worked up over.

Pretty much, how many of us haven't sold our bodies? Maybe not that specific part or for that type of job, but I'm pretty sure most of us have done some form of labor. And probably for a heck of a lot less per hr.

"My side", or the "other side"... if he's guilty, follow through with proscribed punishment. If he's innocent, let him go.
Make sure one way or the other.

Yep,

Dude sounds scummy and I’m not surprised he ran. Most any chance he had of a jury nullifying based on the age issue probably walked due to the nature of the transaction.

Yeah, I agree although he may have already had business there and found out after. And yeah good chance.

 

[jedi]

so going back to the ORIGINAL topic of this post.
Does any of this affect his business and or the 3d files?
His biz can continue to run without him right?
pkus at this point the files are out in the wild and based on the judge ruling his biz can sell them so can anyone else just upload them like they are now for free? doubt his biz goes after them as the whole point was to get the files out to the public.

 

[Trigger Time]

She said he paid her.
He still gets to give his side of the story.
Hes in Taiwan, so what? Doesnt mean he fled. If he missed his flight maybe he wants to get his **** together before he knows hes gonna be in jail and extremely limited. The cops issued a warrant, uh ok, so what. Hes not any more of a criminal because he hasnt been arrested yet. No proof hes intentionaly fleeing the police, plus he is in a foreign country. Mayve he was going there to live and start over because the government is railroading him over his printed firearms? Maybe he wanted to sleep with an american woman one last time before he seeks political asylum in Taiwan? Who knows.
The dude is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Right now we know the girl has lied once and that's for joining a 18 and over website .
No I dont care if people pay for sex. Who cares? I don't. Its legal many places in the world. Let's not pretend a gold digger isnt just a legal whore either. They are and they are everywhere. Men and women.
Prostitution is like weed, it will eventualy be legalized. Many men pay whores. Politicians, cops, bankers, regular dudes, regular women. I would never vote to convict someone for prostitution Male or female. I believe it's an unconstitutional law.

Also the cop quoted as saying she looked even younger than her age, so what? I've seen actresses in movies that are in their 30's and look like they are 12. Looks doesnt mean crap. I thought we werent allowed to judge on looks and profile anymore? Lol.
Hey if he knowingly had sex with a young minor then hang him. If he dodnt do it knowingly then let him go.
I hope she is gonna be punished too?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I hope she is gonna be punished too?

I know they do, but I don't like the argument of charging juveniles for prostitution. If you can't legally consent to sex, how can you legally consent to sex for money? Plus, someone who's at a stage in their life where as a juvenile they are taking money for sex, a criminal record probably isn't going to stop them from doing it and will likely contribute to keeping them there.

 

[Trigger Time]

I know they do, but I don't like the argument of charging juveniles for prostitution. If you can't legally consent to sex, how can you legally consent to sex for money? Plus, someone who's at a stage in their life where as a juvenile they are taking money for sex, a criminal record probably isn't going to stop them from doing it and will likely contribute to keeping them there.

Yeah you are right now that you put it those ways

 

[hoosierdoc]

Anyone wonder if they asked her who else she schtupped or if they got a subpoena for the website info relating to her account?

asking for a friend

 

[jedi]

nah... none of the rest are as important/famous as he is.
so you... i mean your friend is safe.