The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

[Brad69]

Yes this is addition to our current taxes.

In addition any Democratic President will increase corporate taxes and repeal the current Presidents tax cut.

My prediction in the next few weeks for the Democratic Socialist Party!

1.Busing is going to become a issue again it’s going to open old wounds for no reason.

2. Postal banking system in short have the government run its own bank de facto making the banking system state run.

 

[Leadeye]

Yes this is addition to our current taxes.

In addition any Democratic President will increase corporate taxes and repeal the current Presidents tax cut.

My prediction in the next few weeks for the Democratic Socialist Party!

1.Busing is going to become a issue again it’s going to open old wounds for no reason.

2. Postal banking system in short have the government run its own bank de facto making the banking system state run.

Busing certainly will stir up voters, but not in the way I think the DNC will want to see. I've got to believe there's enough old people in democrat leadership to remember those days.

 

[Alpo]

Busing and reparations will drive moderate democrats out of the party. It has already cost them 2 members in my household of 2.

 

[KG1]

Busing and reparations will drive moderate democrats out of the party. It has already cost them 2 members in my household of 2.

I would think there is more than just that. I can't imagine moderate democrats being for things like open borders and free healthcare among other things promised for illegals that entices them to come in droves. Not to mention a number of current social proposals (free stuff) by Democrat candidates for people that are already citizens.

Then again I could be off base with that because i'm not a democrat (full disclosure) and those are the kinds of things I would be opposed to.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I would think there is more than just that. I can't imagine moderate democrats being for things like open borders and free healthcare among other things promised for illegals that entices them to come in droves. Not to mention a number of current social proposals (free stuff) by Democrat candidates for people that are already citizens.

Then again I could be off base with that because i'm not a democrat (full disclosure) and those are the kinds of things I would be opposed to.

They're not. My parents are Democrats and they both think the idea is stupid. And as we spoke about the other day, my pop will still vote for whomever opposes Trump, and is hedging his bets that if a Democrats wins that the remained of the GOP members in congress will block such nonsense.

 

[KG1]

They're not. My parents are Democrats and they both think the idea is stupid. And as we spoke about the other day, my pop will still vote for whomever opposes Trump, and is hedging his bets that if a Democrats wins that the remained of the GOP members in congress will block such nonsense.

I can see that as a definite strategy but to be honest i'm not as confident in the GOP to be able make that gamble right now.

 

[actaeon277]

They're not. My parents are Democrats and they both think the idea is stupid. And as we spoke about the other day, my pop will still vote for whomever opposes Trump, and is hedging his bets that if a Democrats wins that the remained of the GOP members in congress will block such nonsense.

Unless there's not enough.

 

[Doug]

They're not. My parents are Democrats and they both think the idea is stupid. And as we spoke about the other day, my pop will still vote for whomever opposes Trump, and is hedging his bets that if a Democrats wins that the remained of the GOP members in congress will block such nonsense.

Oh, you mean the way they blocked the Affordable Care Act?

 

[jamil]

Busing and reparations will drive moderate democrats out of the party. It has already cost them 2 members in my household of 2.

Bussing is a major feature of JCPS in Louisville. I selfishly hope it continues, because the schools in the district where I live is one of the best in the state. People move across the bridge from Louisville to send their kids to these schools. It’s driving the property values up here. I’m quite okay with that trend sticking. I hope JCPS stays woke. Oldham county in KY is in the same boat. Property values are much higher because of that. But it’s so bad there they can’t keep their infrastructure up with the demand.

 

[jamil]

I would think there is more than just that. I can't imagine moderate democrats being for things like open borders and free healthcare among other things promised for illegals that entices them to come in droves. Not to mention a number of current social proposals (free stuff) by Democrat candidates for people that are already citizens.

Then again I could be off base with that because i'm not a democrat (full disclosure) and those are the kinds of things I would be opposed to.

I don’t think most Democrats are. It’s just that the crazy ones have all the power now. The sane democrats are leaving because the crazy ones are driving the direction of the platform.

 

[jamil]

They're not. My parents are Democrats and they both think the idea is stupid. And as we spoke about the other day, my pop will still vote for whomever opposes Trump, and is hedging his bets that if a Democrats wins that the remained of the GOP members in congress will block such nonsense.

He better hope for short coattails. Or vote for R congressmen.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I don’t think most Democrats are. It’s just that the crazy ones have all the power now. The sane democrats are leaving because the crazy ones are driving the direction of the platform.

I keep trying to get Alpo and Kut to jump on the Trump Train.

Alpo, Kut... stare at this and keep repeating "Trump is okay. Maybe I'm a Republican."... (I don't want to rush things )

 

[jamil]

I keep trying to get Alpo and Kut to jump on the Trump Train.

Alpo, Kut... stare at this and keep repeating "Trump is okay. Maybe I'm a Republican."... (I don't want to rush things )

I’m working out a pragmatic appeal to the sane Democrats that Imma post closer to elections. It’s gonna depend on who wins the primaries a big though. Odds are it’s someone bat**** crazy. Progressives with the biggest platforms just can’t help themselves. They haven’t a clue why Trump won. They keep thinking it’s because dems weren’t woke enough.

I said “woke” just because Alpo asked me to stop. And yes. That’s quite immature of me, yet surprisingly enjoyable.

 

[Twangbanger]

I’m working out a pragmatic appeal to the sane Democrats that Imma post closer to elections. It’s gonna depend on who wins the primaries a big though. Odds are it’s someone bat**** crazy. Progressives with the biggest platforms just can’t help themselves. They haven’t a clue why Trump won. They keep thinking it’s because dems weren’t woke enough.

Biden's strategists are reportedly planning to start drawing lines distinguishing them from the batsh_ts on healthcare. Because: the batsh_ts apparently have not figured out that the higher-educated you are, the more likely you are to get your insurance from your employer...and, if their "Medicare for All" plans abolish private healthcare, that negatively affects ~85% of highly-educated suburban white collar voters. That's a demographic democrats are counting on, and team Biden is preparing to remind those voters that if the batsh_ts get their way, they will suddenly be confronted with a "if you like your plan, you can('t) keep it*" problem. This is going to pit these voters' idealism for a better society against their own personal interests in a way that Bernie, Pocahontas, and Aunt Esther apparently did not see coming. This is why I don't think Bernie/Pocahontas/Aunt Esther are serious candidates. They know their candidacy is going nowhere; they're just in it to pull Biden as much to the left as possible. This thing is already over, and they know it.

(*until we outlaw it)

...so I point that out, in the interests of encouraging you to go ahead and post your treatise, because if you're going to keep it in the can if Joe wins...that probably means it's going to stay in the can. (And, we would all probably like to see the response, if any, from the 2.2 dem moderates still residing here, who are no longer posing as Libertarians).

They're not. My parents are Democrats and they both think the idea is stupid. And as we spoke about the other day, my pop will still vote for whomever opposes Trump, and is hedging his bets that if a Democrats wins that the remained of the GOP members in congress will block such nonsense.

Which idea? I work in manufacturing, and literally countless Union people have told me this about Gun Control. I do think it's a little charming, when dem voters support candidates they flat-out admit are full of batsh_t, but then add they are counting on a Republican Congress to keep them in check. Then: spend that Democrat President's entire term beeching about those damn obstructionist Republicans, when said obstructionism was the entire thing they were counting on to protect the country from the silliness of their chosen candidate. It is neurotic on a level that is unmatched in American politics. Never once have I heard a Republican moderate voter make the equal but opposite statement: that they were going to vote for someone like Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum, then hope the Democrats keep them in check. It tells me many democrats know how full of it their party is, on topics from Gun Control to Health Care to Immigration. But they support it because they're scripted that way, whether because of Union allegiance, or whatever.​

 

[Kutnupe14]

Which idea? I work in manufacturing, and literally countless Union people have told me this about Gun Control. I do think it's a little charming, when dem voters support candidates they flat-out admit are full of batsh_t, but then add they are counting on a Republican Congress to keep them in check. Then: spend that Democrat President's entire term beeching about those damn obstructionist Republicans, when said obstructionism was the entire thing they were counting on to protect the country from the silliness of their chosen candidate. It is neurotic on a level that is unmatched in American politics. Never once have I heard a Republican moderate voter make the equal but opposite statement: that they were going to vote for someone like Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum, then hope the Democrats keep them in check. It tells me many democrats know how full of it their party is, on topics from Gun Control to Health Care to Immigration. But they support it because they're scripted that way, whether because of Union allegiance, or whatever.​

When you think your candidate is less bat**** crazy than the other, the notion is sound. For Instance Obama was re-elected, and yet the Republicans retook congress. It's happened that way many times in the past. If you've never heard a Republican mention the idea, you haven't been listening. Many people will vote locally one way, and nationally another. Indiana is a prime example of this.

 

[Expat]

The GOP likes to talk tough on immigration, but the Chamber of Commerce likes having lots of illegals that they can take advantage of with lower wages and no benefits. The Chamber carries a lot of weight in the GOP. So i would never count on them doing the right thing.

 

[KG1]

The GOP likes to talk tough on immigration, but the Chamber of Commerce likes having lots of illegals that they can take advantage of with lower wages and no benefits. The Chamber carries a lot of weight in the GOP. So i would never count on them doing the right thing.

Exactly. The GOP has had plenty of opportunities to do the right things and they squandered them all when they had the numbers.

Paul Ryan was a feckless speaker who I believe intentionally prohibited the GOP from moving the ball forward.

 

[jamil]

I’m so frustrated with the Republican Party over the last several years. Feckless is a good word for them. Cowards. Frauds. Part of the herd are too afraid to act, another part just pretends because when it comes down to it they want to keep their illegal nanny.

 

[Expat]

Exactly. The GOP has had plenty of opportunities to do the right things and they squandered them all when they had the numbers.

Paul Ryan was a feckless speaker who I believe intentionally prohibited the GOP from moving the ball forward.

I’m so frustrated with the Republican Party over the last several years. Feckless is a good word for them. Cowards. Frauds. Part of the herd are too afraid to act, another part just pretends because when it comes down to it they want to keep their illegal nanny.

The pro life movement is another example of how they play the base but then never perform.

 

[Twangbanger]

When you think your candidate is less bat**** crazy than the other, the notion is sound. For Instance Obama was re-elected, and yet the Republicans retook congress. It's happened that way many times in the past. If you've never heard a Republican mention the idea, you haven't been listening. Many people will vote locally one way, and nationally another. Indiana is a prime example of this.

Your stipulation of "Locally" doesn't mean much. When you get down to the city or congressional district level, eg. Marion County, it's very common to have regions in most states with a vastly different Red/Blue profile than the state as a whole. But it provides no evidence the residents of the state, as a whole, are voting one way for Congress and the other way for President (if I'm taking you correctly).

On the example of Obama being re-elected: are you suggesting that Mitt Romney was "batsh_t crazy," and that there were significant numbers of people who could not accept his views and A) voted Obama, but also B) voted Republican for Congress? I don't believe that for a moment. I don't think you do either. (Please elaborate if you do). That was the "coalition" election, the one where Team Obama gave up on moderate Independents, and took the "minorities and young people" coalition approach (and he got a ton less votes than he did in 2008). The data strongly suggest that in _that_ election, if someone voted Obama, then they were voting Democrat across-the-board.​

We may be talking about completely different things. I'm not talking about "ticket-splitting," where voters can split parties because someone like Evan Bayh or Joe Donnelly is closely-aligned with their views on the issues, but happens to be from a different party. I'm talking about people voting Democrat "across the board," then hoping against hope that their batsh_t-crazy impulses can be restrained by the

Republican Party (through no personal contribution of their own) retaining enough seats to keep control of at least one chamber of Congress.

Does your dad intend to vote Republican for Congress - or is he voting D "across-the-board?" Has he ever voted for a Republican for Congress? In my example of the union folks I've talked to about gun control over the years, most all of them voted D across the board. ​

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