The CZickness #XIV....It continues

[Birds Away]

88, it is very impressive, the way you have been working through your physical setback. My hat is off to you sir!

Amen. It is also a good lesson for us all. Shooting with my weak hand is something I used to do regularly but not nearly enough.

 

[Hoosier45]

My apologies. I forget that not everyone has a lot of mags. I also hate loading mags at the range. I also hate doing mental gymnastics at the range. That's another reason I only load 10 rounds. If I bring x number of mags it's easy to figure out how many rounds I have expended. Also easy to limit yourself. Bring 30 loaded mags and you will only shoot 300 rounds. I have to keep it simple because I'm not very bright.

Off to greg cote I go...

 

[Hoosier45]

CZ FACTORY, MEC-GAR & ACT-MAG : Greg Cote, LLC

Buy mags until you think you have enough, then buy some more.

Don't waste money on CZ factory mags. Mecgar, unless this has changed recently, makes the CZ factory mags so pay less and get the same thing.

I was actually on there ordering more mags as you were posting this.

 

[T-DOGG]

Indeed. It is also addictive for the reason you state. Not much fun shooting a stock gun after a while.

When the Wizard and I would get a stock gun it would only go to the range once. That was just to test function, accuracy, etc. Once that is accomplished there really isn't any point.

Enlighten me for a moment though.

If a guy was going to run a stock DA/SA CZ handgun, which one "stock" would be the best out of the box to do so with?
Maybe something with the Omega trigger is what I was thinking?

 

[Birds Away]

I was actually on there ordering more mags as you were posting this.

When you have a couple of extra dollars lying around you should invest in a couple 26 rounders. We like to end our range trips with mag dumps and 26s really make it fun.

 

[Hoosier45]

When you have a couple of extra dollars lying around you should invest in a couple 26 rounders. We like to end our range trips with mag dumps and 26s really make it fun.

I was looking at those. Invested in more 16 and 19 round mags this time.

 

[rkwhyte2]

Morning all this talk of shooting has me all worked up. My current stable of CZ's is just 2 the SP-01 tactical and a P-01. I have about 600 rounds through the SP-01. This gun was purchased new and is currently stock. The P-01 has around 1000 rounds down the pipe I picked it up from GregD. It is also a stock gun with the exception of a set of TFX sights. I had always planned on a minimum of a 1000 rounds before having any work done on either gun. I'm right at the point where I'm ready to order the Pro kit from CGW and letting the Wizard work his magic. I believe the P-01 will be first.

 

[Birds Away]

Enlighten me for a moment though.

If a guy was going to run a stock DA/SA CZ handgun, which one "stock" would be the best out of the box to do so with?
Maybe something with the Omega trigger is what I was thinking?

There are a lot of factors. Many of them are very subjective. Omega triggers feel mushy to me. There are many who disagree. Any mass produced item has tolerances and how well a gun shoots in has as much to do with how the tolerances of that particular gun line up as anything else. Any of the CZ guns will improve dramatically with rounds down the barrel. Pick one and shoot the hell out of it. Then shoot it some more. Somewhere in the 5-10k neighborhood is a good goal. The problem is that you won't really feel the difference until you shoot it against another stock gun. Also if you shoot the majority in SA it will take a lot longer to notice any improvement in the DA. IMO, for the best results, 80% or more of your rounds should be in DA. Again, just my . I'm sure there are people who would disagree.

 

[Birds Away]

I was looking at those. Invested in more 16 and 19 round mags this time.

Always a good investment. I was just throwing that out there for something to think about. There was a time when the Phantom, as the HD gun, sported 19+1 with two 26s as backup mags. I figured that would be enough for any late night uninvited guests.

 

[Birds Away]

Morning all this talk of shooting has me all worked up. My current stable of CZ's is just 2 the SP-01 tactical and a P-01. I have about 600 rounds through the SP-01. This gun was purchased new and is currently stock. The P-01 has around 1000 rounds down the pipe I picked it up from GregD. It is also a stock gun with the exception of a set of TFX sights. I had always planned on a minimum of a 1000 rounds before having any work done on either gun. I'm right at the point where I'm ready to order the Pro kit from CGW and letting the Wizard work his magic. I believe the P-01 will be first.

That's an excellent plan.

 

[MindfulMan]

Beautiful weather all weekend. I ended up sleeping outside Friday night because it was too nice by the fire to go back inside.

There you go !

 

[MindfulMan]

And, it saves ammo, and prolongs the fun.

Wise !

 

[mcapo]

Enlighten me for a moment though.

If a guy was going to run a stock DA/SA CZ handgun, which one "stock" would be the best out of the box to do so with?
Maybe something with the Omega trigger is what I was thinking?

BA - I’ll add to this request for enlightenment. If you took a non-Omega trigger and just installed a race hammer would the creep be eliminated (edit: significantly reduced).

 

[Birds Away]

BA - I’ll add to this request for enlightenment. If you took a non-Omega trigger and just installed a race hammer would the creep be eliminated (edit: significantly reduced).

Better to ask the Wizard that question. He's the technical expert.

 

[gmcttr]

BA - I’ll add to this request for enlightenment. If you took a non-Omega trigger and just installed a race hammer would the creep be eliminated (edit: significantly reduced).

I just talked to CGW about this a week ago. Get the race hammer, sear and the appropriate disconnector.

 

[mcapo]

I just talked to CGW about this a week ago. Get the race hammer, sear and the appropriate disconnector.

I have been contemplating this direction for the RAMI but haven't decided yet and, given T-dogg's previous trigger preference comments, I would think a similar set-up might be a minimalist approach to a good performing trigger.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[churchmouse]

I have been contemplating this direction for the RAMI but haven't decided yet and, given T-dogg's previous trigger preference comments, I would think a similar set-up might be a minimalist approach to a good performing trigger.

Just thinking out loud...

My personal experience with any ignition group is get all the parts. Loose the stock pieces and allow the new bits to marry properly. There is no real minimalist approach that actually works. Not an opinion. Based on real world results. No matter what the platforms.

 

[mcapo]

So...hand the gun to the Wizard and ask him to make it sing.

Got it. I will stop thinking...

 

[churchmouse]

So...hand the gun to the Wizard and ask him to make it sing.

Got it. I will stop thinking...

What you will...in effect....be doing is wasting your time in the long run. Just installing the new bits makes a world of difference. What the wizard does to them is where the gold is found.

 

[KJQ6945]

Can the CGW parts be polished to the same effect that you get from shooting it? All morning we've been discussing the merits of shooting in DA. The effect on the gun is without question. I've been dry firing the Tactical along side the Phantom, and they are worlds apart, with the same CGW parts.

We need a CGW "Perfection Package"!