The [Current Year] General Political/Salma Hayek discussion thread, part 4!!!

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    ArcadiaGP

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    my god.

    what.

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    nonobaddog

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    The left likes to push that, and anything else they can think of, as long as it is bad about Trump, that is all that matters. I have watched many of Trumps speeches and conferences. You gotta be pretty stupid to not understand what he says. He is more direct than most politicians. I like that. Most of them put together a bunch of words that don't really say anything.
     

    T.Lex

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    The left likes to push that, and anything else they can think of, as long as it is bad about Trump, that is all that matters. I have watched many of Trumps speeches and conferences. You gotta be pretty stupid to not understand what he says. He is more direct than most politicians. I like that. Most of them put together a bunch of words that don't really say anything.

    I think Trump supporters "understand" what he means, even if it isn't necessarily what he says.

    Oh, and he certainly is direct about some things. "We'll build the wall and Mexico will pay for it." Promises, he's good at. Explanations, not so much.
     

    KG1

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    I think Trump supporters "understand" what he means, even if it isn't necessarily what he says.

    Oh, and he certainly is direct about some things. "We'll build the wall and Mexico will pay for it." Promises, he's good at. Explanations, not so much.
    I think that works both ways for Trump haters. They imply what they think he means even if it isn't necessarily what he says.
     

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    I think Trump supporters "understand" what he means, even if it isn't necessarily what he says.

    Oh, and he certainly is direct about some things. "We'll build the wall and Mexico will pay for it." Promises, he's good at. Explanations, not so much.

    I am exhausted by the lack of imagination and the disingenuousness of the "Mexico will pay for the wall" tropes. Did a single Trump supporter hear that and think, Trump is going to get congress to pass a law reguiring a sovereign country to pay for a border wall, then they will send the military to collect the money? He77 no.

    Reasonable thinking people knew he was talking about things like renegotiating NAFTA, tariffs and the like.
     

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    I am exhausted by the lack of imagination and the disingenuousness of the "Mexico will pay for the wall" tropes. Did a single Trump supporter hear that and think, Trump is going to get congress to pass a law reguiring a sovereign country to pay for a border wall, then they will send the military to collect the money? He77 no.

    Reasonable thinking people knew he was talking about things like renegotiating NAFTA, tariffs and the like.

    Yeah, it was more than one. A LOT more. Trump laid out a plan, and people believed that plan. When it became obvious that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall, that when people were like "I knew he didn't really mean Mexico was going to pay for a wall." That's utter BS. Even if some of them knew that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall, the president MOST CERTAINLY thought that Mexico was, so in that regard, it would appear that many Trump voters know how dumb he was in the first place.
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    Oh well, he was probably just joking about that "treason" thing yester....


    .... Nope he's still going.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179048439319072768

    Trump said:
    Why isn’t Congressman Adam Schiff being brought up on charges for fraudulently making up a statement and reading it to Congress as if this statement, which was very dishonest and bad for me, was directly made by the President of the United States? This should never be allowed!
     

    jamil

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    And he is 100% right!
    Huh? Why isn’t Schiff being brought up on charges for lying? If that were the standard for politicians, all politicians would be brought up on charges.

    Schiff used his pulpit to misrepresent the phone call. Trump has a pulpit too, albeit, bigger. Instead of whining on Twitter like a helpless little *****, why doesn’t Trump use his pulpit to set the record straight?
     

    T.Lex

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    Huh? Why isn’t Schiff being brought up on charges for lying? If that were the standard for politicians, all politicians would be brought up on charges.

    Schiff used his pulpit to misrepresent the phone call. Trump has a pulpit too, albeit, bigger. Instead of whining on Twitter like a helpless little *****, why doesn’t Trump use his pulpit to set the record straight?

    He did.

    It was a perfect call. A perfect call full of perfect conversation about perfect things. Everything went well in the call. It was so perfect that it will be heralded as the penultimate call between world leaders for generations to come. It was just that perfect.
     

    jamil

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    He did.

    It was a perfect call. A perfect call full of perfect conversation about perfect things. Everything went well in the call. It was so perfect that it will be heralded as the penultimate call between world leaders for generations to come. It was just that perfect.

    Well. That’s not very straight. That’s kinda curvy. I asked for straight.
     

    Ingomike

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    Yeah, it was more than one. A LOT more. Trump laid out a plan, and people believed that plan. When it became obvious that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall, that when people were like "I knew he didn't really mean Mexico was going to pay for a wall." That's utter BS. Even if some of them knew that Mexico wasn't going to pay for the wall, the president MOST CERTAINLY thought that Mexico was, so in that regard, it would appear that many Trump voters know how dumb he was in the first place.

    I have never seen the written plan, where might I read it?
     

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    Oh puhleeze. If you are so far behind the curve that you haven't read or watched anything that Trump has written or said, you shouldn't start by requesting links here.
     
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