Texas to take up bill requiring Ten Commandments in every public school

[DadSmith]

Texas to take up bill requiring Ten Commandments in every public school classroom

The Texas state Senate Education Committee this week will take up a bill requiring the Ten Commandments to be installed in every public school classroom, and another that would allow schools to hire pastors or chaplains instead of counselors."A public elementary or secondary school shall display...

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"A public elementary or secondary school shall display in a conspicuous place in each classroom of the school a durable poster or framed copy of the Ten Commandments,"

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Unfortunately, that's never going to pass.

 

[Amishman44]

I was a teacher in Georgia when they removed the 10 Commandments from the walls inside the school and had a sudden rash of thefts...student items, teacher items, etc.
At the next teacher in-service day, they had several people speak on how to 'secure' personal and professional items so as to avoid or reduce the number of thefts in the school...
One of the 'suggestions' by a fellow teacher was, "Why don't we put signs on the walls that say, 'DO NOT STEAL!' I raised a hand and responded with, "We HAD a sign that said that...but it got taken down!"
Needless to say the discussion suddenly became very heated...with a lot of 'discussion' on both sides...some of it simultaneously!!! I, wisely, stayed quiet and, a few minutes later, exited the room and headed down to the Athletic Training Center to start getting athletes ready for their afternoon practices! Note: I wasn't particularly known for being 'P-C' down there....

 

[DadSmith]

Unfortunately, that's never going to pass.

In today's evil is good, and good is evil ideology it probably won't.

 

[Amishman44]

In today's evil is good, and good is evil ideology it probably won't.

That's the sad reality of the way the world is going...

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

We wanted secular government schools. This is what that looks like.

 

[cg21]

So let me get this straight…..

trans story hour & sexualizing elementary schoolers=

Ten Commandments and pledge of allegiance =

ok got it.

 

[KLB]

You guys really can't see why making it mandatory to display a religious symbol in every school would be problematic? It should be OK for a school to choose to display them. It is not OK for the government to mandate it.

I'm sure you would all be fine if an Islamic equivalent were the one that was required.

 

[cg21]

You guys really can't see why making it mandatory to display a religious symbol in every school would be problematic? It should be OK for a school to choose to display them. It is not OK for the government to mandate it.

I'm sure you would all be fine if an Islamic equivalent were the one that was required.

Equally as bad to NOT allow it though. Most public schools you would not be allowed to have the 10 commandments on the wall. But I agree choice is the best option.

 

[DragonGunner]

Like history shows, schools were funded and ran by parents, no government. Parents gave up that right and started handing their kids to the public government controlled schools. Then government took complete control and kicked God out and parents just didn’t care and keep sending kids there, it’s the babysitter they dreamed of. The cell phones are the 2nd babysitter. If you don’t want to raise your kids why did you even have them? This is a broad picture I’m painting and not true for everyone. But I think most will see, it’s not just schools and government. We failed.

 

[Mark-DuCo]

As a Catholic, I think it is probably crossing the line as for a seperation of church and state. Even though the ten commandments is really just basic guide on how to be a decent human being.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Like history shows, schools were funded and ran by parents, no government. Parents gave up that right and started handing their kids to the public government controlled schools. Then government took complete control and kicked God out and parents just didn’t care and keep sending kids there, it’s the babysitter they dreamed of. The cell phones are the 2nd babysitter. If you don’t want to raise your kids why did you even have them? This is a broad picture I’m painting and not true for everyone. But I think most will see, it’s not just schools and government. We failed.

What we’re experiencing today in our public schools was predicted in the 19th century.

"But nearly all public men and divines declare that the State schools are the glory of America, that they are a finality, and in no event to be surrendered. We have seen that their complete secularization is logically inevitable. Christians must prepare themselves then, for the following results: All prayer, catechisms, and Bibles will ultimately be driven out of the schools."

Robert Dabney

 

[BJHay]

We've worked for 70 years to diversify schools and that has benefits but it also creates a diverse set of parents with a diverse set of expectations and standards. This inevitably pits neighbors against each other as they must fight for what they want for their kid.

The answer is a voucher system and magnet schools so that parents have some choice in the type of school their kids can attend. The vouchers could be cashed in to help defray the cost of homeschooling or private schools.

 

[JettaKnight]

As a Catholic, I think it is probably crossing the line as for a seperation of church and state.

As a Baptist, I agree.

Forcing it in schools reeks of Christian Nationalism. There's a discomforting trend to remove one set of ideology and replace it with another right now. Even if I 100% agree with that ideology, I still can disagree with the method of its placement.


Both sides need to stop using schools as their battleground.

Even though the ten commandments is really just basic guide on how to be a decent human being.

Sure, the second half.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

If hanging a sign in a school made any difference, there'd be no school shootings. We are long past the time where "putting prayer back in schools" or displaying 10 Commandments will do any good. The problem is far upstream from any of that stuff and conservatives seem to only be interested in fighting battles that will do nothing to resolve the issues.

Case in point:

 

[DragonGunner]

What we’re experiencing today in our public schools was predicted in the 19th century.

"But nearly all public men and divines declare that the State schools are the glory of America, that they are a finality, and in no event to be surrendered. We have seen that their complete secularization is logically inevitable. Christians must prepare themselves then, for the following results: All prayer, catechisms, and Bibles will ultimately be driven out of the schools."

Robert Dabney

Thanks for sharing that, had never read or seen that before.

 

[JettaKnight]

What we’re experiencing today in our public schools was predicted in the 19th century.

"But nearly all public men and divines declare that the State schools are the glory of America, that they are a finality, and in no event to be surrendered. We have seen that their complete secularization is logically inevitable. Christians must prepare themselves then, for the following results: All prayer, catechisms, and Bibles will ultimately be driven out of the schools."

Robert Dabney

So, the answer to that is to drive it in?

We're afraid that prayer, and religious practices in general, is going to be forced out (despite that the Supreme Court has been upholding these freedoms), so we're going to counter it by forcing schools to be tacitly Judeo-Christian.

I don't think I'm cool with that. (I'm also not cool with Dabney)



If you're worried about losing freedom, the answer isn't to take away others' freedom.

 

[Jaybird1980]

You know what also used to happen back when we had the pledge and prayers.

We used to hold people accountable for their actions.

I think think we should start there

I also think I would rather them hang the Bill Of Rights instead of the 10 commandments.

 

[Kurr]

Under the "equality of the law" and all, you know if they are allowed to put up the 10 commandments, they will also be forced to put up the satanic version, and every other "religion" will be allowed to do the same.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So, the answer to that is to drive it in?

We're afraid that prayer, and religious practices in general, is going to be forced out (despite that the Supreme Court has been upholding these freedoms), so we're going to counter it by forcing schools to be tacitly Judeo-Christian.

I don't think I'm cool with that. (I'm also not cool with Dabney)



If you're worried about losing freedom, the answer isn't to take away others' freedom.

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