good for them for seeing him for what he is.
I heard an FBI agent (former state police) on fox news the other morning saying every time the FBI sends agents out into the field (serve warrant, surveillance, etc) they have a meeting where the rules of engagement are discussed and laid out. He said police officers get this briefing once in their career, during their time at the academy. He thinks this is something that should be a part of daily briefings. Not sure I agree with that, nor feel it would do much good. After awhile it would become mindless background noise. But I think he makes a valid point about the rules of engagement.. you have way more contact and potential for violent encounters on a day to day basis then an FBI agent does. yet they are briefed EVERYTIME they go out to enforce an action. Something to consider...
Read the next line in the post (don't pull a Kut on me)I don't know. Personally, I have a hard time "judging" how someone processes their grief - especially under particularly tragic circumstances. Have experienced enough of it, and among family members and friends, and seen people I know, respect, and love deal with things in ways that I'm not comfortable with, that as long as their not endangering themselves or others, I think its better to just let them sort it out.
The brother seems to have a really good head about things. Perhaps he will try to leverage the tragedy into achieving some greater good, and wanted to do something to absolutely ingrain what happened. He could become an effective advocate for change.
Honestly, it not the "how" it's done, its the "who" is doing it. Sure sometimes good officers mess up, and there are tragic consequences, however most the time, it's guys who shouldn't be in the profession in the first place.
And having been a guy who almost had to shoot an FBI agent due to their incompetence, in the field, the only advice from them I'm ever willing to listen to, are those who have previously worked in LE.
Honestly, it not the "how" it's done, its the "who" is doing it. Sure sometimes good officers mess up, and there are tragic consequences, however most the time, it's guys who shouldn't be in the profession in the first place.
And having been a guy who almost had to shoot an FBI agent due to their incompetence, in the field, the only advice from them I'm ever willing to listen to, are those who have previously worked in LE.
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I don't know him, family or victim.
Can't and wont try and attribute motive to his actions
Myself, I would be holding my brother, maybe CPR, maybe cussing out the cop.
I think society has made an adjustment
Kut......Kut......Dude....
thats twice today that I agree with you.
The world may end.
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thats a good point, I didn't think of that.Yeah, good luck with trying to contaminate the crime scene. Stick to cussing, and you'll avoid an involuntary stay at the Gray Bar Hotel.
Question: doesn't Murder have to be pre-meditated? Or would manslaughter be the more appropriate charge in this situation?
SECTION 16-3-10. "Murder" defined.
"Murder" is the killing of any person with malice aforethought, either express or implied
SECTION 16-3-50. Manslaughter.
A person convicted of manslaughter, or the unlawful killing of another without malice, express or implied, must be imprisoned not more than thirty years or less than two years.
HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 16-55; 1952 Code Section 16-55; 1942 Code Section 1107; 1932 Code Section 1107; Cr. C. '22 Section 10; Cr. C. '12 Section 148; Cr. C. '02 Section 120; G. S. 2465; R. S. 120; 1869 (14) 175; 1931 (38) 332; 1934 (38) 1463; 1993 Act No. 184, Section 159.
With all due respect, I don't have a flagpole tall enough to raise a BS flag as high as I would like over that belief. How in the world does driving a 90s Mercedes, one we don't know that he even owned, indicate the victim's "state of mind?" The only thing I can say with certainty about this guy was he had more kids than he could afford, he didn't want to go to jail, and made the bad decision to run. None of those are deserving of a death sentence.
I respect and admire your established faith in the system and hope you are right. I'm not sure how you define common decency, but it's not something that I see very often when faced with these situations.
I would have, I feel there are plenty of instances of injustice to go around. These incidents are not race exclusive, but the media would have you believe they are because it creates a sellable story and promotes outrage which leads to more opportunities for them to exploit.
I haven't kept up on the legal end of this. Have specific charges been levied against the LEO?Terrorist Pressure Cooker Bomb Boy (Dzokhar Tsarniev) was convicted on all counts yesterday.
I have little doubt that it won't go well for this LEO, and the number of people crossing their fingers hoping for him to walk will be almost infinitesimally small and shunned.
It will be ordinary, average Americans of various races on the jury, and -- at least given what we now know -- they will almost certainly vote to convict.
This identity politics crap must go.
I doubt I'm alone in that opinion.
Terrorist Pressure Cooker Bomb Boy (Dzokhar Tsarniev) was convicted on all counts yesterday.
I have little doubt that it won't go well for this LEO, and the number of people crossing their fingers hoping for him to walk will be almost infinitesimally small and shunned.
It will be ordinary, average Americans of various races on the jury, and -- at least given what we now know -- they will almost certainly vote to convict.
This identity politics crap must go.
I doubt I'm alone in that opinion.
I heard an FBI agent (former state police) on fox news the other morning saying every time the FBI sends agents out into the field (serve warrant, surveillance, etc) they have a meeting where the rules of engagement are discussed and laid out. He said police officers get this briefing once in their career, during their time at the academy. He thinks this is something that should be a part of daily briefings. Not sure I agree with that, nor feel it would do much good. After awhile it would become mindless background noise. But I think he makes a valid point about the rules of engagement.. you have way more contact and potential for violent encounters on a day to day basis then an FBI agent does. yet they are briefed EVERYTIME they go out to enforce an action. Something to consider...
I have not posted anything about "identity politics". I'm not sure how you know who will be on the jury, but that doesn't matter to me. We have not seen everything dealing with this case and there will be much more to come. We have just seen the dashcam video and now there appears to be other eye witnesses. What about other conversations with the officer and others via walkie talkies? My faith just isn't as strong as yours, but don't read into that, because I'm sure you would not appreciate someone doing that to you.
I believe my agency is better than many when it comes to training. Unfortunately someone doesn't feel it's important as he just vetoed 2.5 million dollars which was supposed to go toward improving our facilities and therefore our training. The situations in Ferguson and North Charleston must seem like fun.
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