Romney at the NRA Convention: I'm a Friend of Yours

[mydoghasfleas]

A person winning the presidency from either the republican or democrat party is almost as much of a given as gravity. If you want to deny that history, go ahead.

And if you want your liberty to "steadily increase" then you're going to have to work for it. Throwing away a vote on someone who is not able to do a minuscule thing to increase your liberty is up to you. Go for it. And that is my advice.

And if you want your party to change, stop supporting them no matter what they do.

If you want to "work for an increase in liberty" do the "hard work" of making them come to the voter base instead of having a voter base that follows them no matter the candidate.

Come to think of it, if you would have done this the last election cycle, we might not be discusing Romney as your candidate, and we would still be in the same boat cause ya still lost to Obama. So in a way its your fault if Obama gets re-elected because you have not been punishing your party for offering up such bad candidates.

 

[rambone]

[That concept of bad choice and worse choice always gets those who think in black and whtie.

But for those of us who live in the real world instead of fantasy and understand there is major, substantial differences between the only two actual candidates that the section is made from.

If you have to keep reminding people of these alleged "differences", then maybe the differences aren't as substantial as you believe.

Whether Romney or Obama wins, America will be exactly 4 years closer to reaching full-blown fascism; no more, no less. They are both stooges of the NWO.

 

[jbombelli]

Okay... I'll remember that and quote you after Obama become a second termer for lack of votes for Romney.

Any vote Romney doesn't get is Romney's fault for not earning it.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

Is Romney more or less conservative than McCain? Was McCain more or less conservative than Bush 2? Was Bush 2 more or less conservative than Dole? Was dole more or less conservative than Bush 1? Was Bush 1 more or less conservative than Reagan?

That's 32 years of republican nominees and presidents. Do you notice a trend with each passing one? Is it a trend you support? Is it a trend you see reversing any time soon?

Actually the real question is "were the folk you just named more or less conservative than their Democrat counterparts?"

... "Do you see a trend?"

Is it that each new Republican president is more and more liberty loving than the one before them?.........Is it that we are going in the right direction?.......Its Ross Perot and Ron Pauls fault?...

 

[Prometheus]

Voting republican or democrat in the past 3 decades has had the same result.

Bigger government and less freedom.

Dismal voter turn out, today, is a direct result of running a turd sandwich against a douche bag.

Personally, I'm done voting for turd sandwiches and douche bags.

This thread is a prime example of why we need negative rep back.

 

[hornadylnl]

... "Do you see a trend?"

Is it that each new Republican president is more and more liberty loving than the one before them?.........Is it that we are going in the right direction?.......Its Ross Perot and Ron Pauls fault?...

With the way the repub party is going, I'm guessing the dems will have to turn right just so they can differentiate themselves from the repubs.

 

[spec4]

OK, so this thread is about Romney I guess, but there is a strong belief that there is no difference in Dem/GOP. To me that is mind boggling. Think Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Patty Murray, Schumer, Clinton, Lautenberg, Sheila Fox, Durbin, Feinstein, Conyers, Rangle. Many more but you get the drift. What they have in common is an idealogy to destroy our country. I don't think the GOP has it together as well as the Dems in trying to destroy America. The abovermentioned gang will do whatever Obama wants. Anyone think they would be cooperative with Romney?

 

[hornadylnl]

OK, so this thread is about Romney I guess, but there is a strong belief that there is no difference in Dem/GOP. To me that is mind boggling. Think Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Patty Murray, Schumer, Clinton, Lautenberg, Sheila Fox, Durbin, Feinstein, Conyers, Rangle. Many more but you get the drift. What they have in common is an idealogy to destroy our country. I don't think the GOP has it together as well as the Dems in trying to destroy America. The abovermentioned gang will do whatever Obama wants. Anyone think they would be cooperative with Romney?

So how is Romney going to accomplish anything good with a hostile congress?

Many here readily admit that house and senate repubs will put their politics above the good of the country if Paul were president. If the dems are so diametrically opposed to Romney's agenda, how is he going to get anything done.

 

[spec4]

So how is Romney going to accomplish anything good with a hostile congress?

Many here readily admit that house and senate repubs will put their politics above the good of the country if Paul were president. If the dems are so diametrically opposed to Romney's agenda, how is he going to get anything done.

The quick answer is that the GOP takes the Senate and get Harry Reid out of the leadership chair. Even if the socialists keep the Senate, a strong GOP house can stymie the advance of socialism.

 

[hornadylnl]

The quick answer is that the GOP takes the Senate and get Harry Reid out of the leadership chair. Even if the socialists keep the Senate, a strong GOP house can stymie the advance of socialism.

The 190 house repubs that voted for NDAA are going to save us? I hope you have a better back up plan than that.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

The politicians in office reflect the will, morality and ideals of the votes that are cast, not how we want to vote, but how we actually vote. In other words, we can thank all the GOP devotes' and Democrat devotes' for the "mainstream" choices we have today, because they molded the party into what it is, and they are molding it into what it is becoming with their votes.

The logic they have created in blaming third party or write in voters for all the the tyrannical leaders they themselves have created that are now getting into office seems to reinforce the towing of the party line even more.

Bush, Bush, McCain, Romney, they represent your party. You are the ones responsible for the creation of them so don't blame me for your sad lineup that is getting steadily worse. You have done a poor job of supporting your own alleged principals, and then justify it by saying its not as bad as the other choice. This is what has resulted in the likes of McCain and Romney, my voting Libertarian or write in had nothing to do with it, your voting party lines while compromising your principals did.

You have made your beds, now lie in them and stop blaming those of us who stand by our principals and actually vote for them as the problem.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

OK, so this thread is about Romney I guess, but there is a strong belief that there is no difference in Dem/GOP. To me that is mind boggling. Think Barbara Boxer, Maxine Waters, Harry Reid, Patty Murray, Schumer, Clinton, Lautenberg, Sheila Fox, Durbin, Feinstein, Conyers, Rangle. Many more but you get the drift. What they have in common is an idealogy to destroy our country. I don't think the GOP has it together as well as the Dems in trying to destroy America. The abovermentioned gang will do whatever Obama wants. Anyone think they would be cooperative with Romney?

I agree with the above 110%.

I to am all for big authoritarian government that can't balance a checkbook, likes to make laws that impede freedom of the citizenry and creates tax schemes that redistribute wealth to their cronies, so long as it is the Republicans doing it and not those pinko Democrats. When the Democrats do it, they are destroying the country. When the Republicans do it, it's like God's Will and a bald eagle had a baby that was born waving an American flag sewn by Betsy Ross.

As for if I think any of those above mentioned people would be cooperative with Romney... I guess it would all depend on which Romney shows up. Naming that guy's actual stance on an issue is about as easy as playing pin the tail on the donkey. He's been quoted on both sides of nearly every issue. If we republicans truly think that unprincipled Romney is the best we can put up in November, maybe we should also petition the party to change it's logo to a chameleon instead of an elephant.

 

[rambone]

When the Democrats do it, they are destroying the country. When the Republicans do it, it's like God's Will and a bald eagle had a baby that was born waving an American flag sewn by Betsy Ross.

These colors don't run!

 

[Hotdoger]

The politicians in office reflect the will, morality and ideals of the votes that are cast, not how we want to vote, but how we actually vote. In other words, we can thank all the GOP devotes' and Democrat devotes' for the "mainstream" choices we have today, because they molded the party into what it is, and they are molding it into what it is becoming with their votes.

The logic they have created in blaming third party or write in voters for all the the tyrannical leaders they themselves have created that are now getting into office seems to reinforce the towing of the party line even more.

Bush, Bush, McCain, Romney, they represent your party. You are the ones responsible for the creation of them so don't blame me for your sad lineup that is getting steadily worse. You have done a poor job of supporting your own alleged principals, and then justify it by saying its not as bad as the other choice. This is what has resulted in the likes of McCain and Romney, my voting Libertarian or write in had nothing to do with it, your voting party lines while compromising your principals did.

You have made your beds, now lie in them and stop blaming those of us who stand by our principals and actually vote for them as the problem.

You voted for losers and got nothing. Your influence on the process was a mickey mouse write in. Embrace it!

 

[IndyDave1776]

Has anyone considered that both parties may well be working toward the same goals with the only difference being that the window dressing is calculated to appeal to roughly half of the population while irritating the other half, but the underlying goals are the same and are being accomplished as evidenced by the fact that when control turns over, there is a difference in direction at the surface level and maybe a moratorium on the most offensive elements of the trend, but neither party ever makes a serious effort to undo old problems. Case in point, we had a six year window of opportunity. NFA, the 1938 act, GCA 68, the Hughes Amendment, and all import restrictions should have been eliminated if the GOP were truly a conservative party. Also significant was the NRA chanting 'enforce the existing laws' when it should have been 'repeal the trash'. In my reckoning, it lowers them to the level of Jackson and Sharpton who make damned sure the 'problem' never gets fixed because if it did they would be out of a job.

 

[mrjarrell]

At least we didn't have to eat a **** sandwich.

 

[mydoghasfleas]

You voted for losers and got nothing. Your influence on the process was a mickey mouse write in. Embrace it!

I got something for my vote. A very tiny bit of "influence on the process" as you put it. And thank you, I do embrace it.

And you got something for your vote. You are getting what you keep asking for with your vote, big government anti-constitutionalist candidates. Embrace the George W. McRomneyCains.

 

[Hotdoger]

I got something for my vote. A very tiny bit of "influence on the process" as you put it. And thank you, I do embrace it.

And you got something for your vote. You are getting what you keep asking for with your vote, big government anti-constitutionalist candidates. Embrace the George W. McRomneyCains.

Again I have Thomas , Roberts and Alito. You got nothing .

 

[Hotdoger]

Guess I have to take that back.

With your Perot vote you got Ginsberg and Breyer.

 

[Prometheus]

Again I have Thomas , Roberts and Alito. You got nothing .

The same guys ruling cops can strip search anyone for virtually any reason due to "safety".

Yeah... way to go. Embrace your lawyers with black dresses while you advocate people who wipe their ass with the Constitution.

What ever you have to tell yourself so you can sleep at night.

Some of us took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Voting for a traitor would be a clear violation of that oath.