LeftyGunner
Sharpshooter
I didn’t pay much attention to the riots in other towns and, honestly the fate of the rioters didn’t interest me much, so this one slid right past me...my bad.
The Portland rioters are still being prosecuted in state court for the laws they broke. I think state charges are most appropriate in the bulk of these cases…perhaps even all of them…local thuggery isn’t a federal issue.
I agree entirely with this. Everyone should be prosecuted equally under the law.
For example, I agree that failing to follow through on valid criminal prosecutions is a miscarriage of Justice and a betrayal of the public trust.
However, failing to prosecute Hillary for her crimes is not a valid reason to excuse Trump for his.
…to the rest of your point, I’m not sure what you mean by a cop out. It my view that public business should be done in a public forum, subject to public record and public review…to me, this is especially important in the business of prosecuting criminals.
Would be nice to have a legal definition of insurrection.
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The law doesn't define it. It just refers to it.
insurrection, an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt. An insurrection may facilitate or bring about a revolution, which is a radical change in the form of government or political system of a state, and it may be initiated or provoked by an act of sedition, which is an incitement to revolt or rebellion.
Insurrection | Definition, Laws, Examples, & Facts
Insurrection, an organized and usually violent act of revolt or rebellion against an established government or governing authority of a nation-state or other political entity by a group of its citizens or subjects; also, any act of engaging in such a revolt.www.britannica.com
Okay, I can work with this. Fair.
So do I...that’s the point I have been arguing this whole time.
…and I haven‘t. You and some other posters have made that leap for me. When I speak of insurrectionists I am not referring to the people who collected outside the capitol and then went home when things got out of control...those people were protestors.
Tourists? Only if you ignore everything else going on around them.
If you are going to accuse me of cherry picking my supporting facts, please do less of it yourself.
So…this is what happens when you entangle yourself with law enforcement, you get treated as a criminal suspect.
Every single one of those defendants had a right to a jury trial, a possible change of venue, appellate review of the handling of their case…etc.
Instead, they chose to admit to having committed the crimes with which they were charged.
At every step these consequences were their own choosing.
Noted.
There were dozens of arrests following the riots in DC.
It should also be noted those criminal cases (or lack thereof) were prosecuted under the Trump administration, not Obama or Biden.
You admitted that some of them could reasonably be called insurrectionists based on their actions…let’s stick to those people.
We are in total agreement on these points.
Then I’ll say this again…I am only referring to the rioters that entered the capitol and interrupted the joint session of congress as Insurrectionists.
