Our Country And Communities Are Dying...

[Leadeye]

Realistically the stores just need to close and let the communities die. Want groceries or other items, drive 50 miles. The people elect the leadership that allows the looting.

 

[churchmouse]

Well, I guess I'm fortunate in that I got vaxxed before the mandate, after much consideration for me. At no point have I been in favor of mandates, and I've never advocated for or against the vaccine itself. Being checked in the future never occurred to me.

My Oncologist is pushing us very hard to get stuck. Very hard.

 

[churchmouse]

Realistically the stores just need to close and let the communities die. Want groceries or other items, drive 50 miles. The people elect the leadership that allows the looting.

Then they get media time when these kids moms can’t find food.

 

[Leadeye]

I remember when the term "food desert" came out after a TV documentary about Detroit. The unexpected cause turned out to be the cottage industry of slip and fall claim law firms that just made it unprofitable for a large grocery store with big insurance to stay there.

Now the locals don't need law firms to loot the stores, they just walk in and steal.

 

[Leo]

I remember when the term "food desert" came out after a TV documentary about Detroit. The unexpected cause turned out to be the cottage industry of slip and fall claim law firms that just made it unprofitable for a large grocery store with big insurance to stay there.

Now the locals don't need law firms to loot the stores, they just walk in and steal.

I came from a place that became a food desert. In the mid '60's every neighborhood had a mom and pop grocery and usually a Tap room. As the neighborhood got rougher, those places were hit with shoplifting, burglary, and then armed robbery. Even if the shop owner lives, the store probably goes away. The tough ones reopen, until they get shot again
Now you cannot walk to the get food.

The middle sized grocery stores were not far. A bus token and you are there. Same deal shop lifting in groups, if they sell beer and wine, break ins get fairly common. They are big enough to hire a night watchman. Then the armed robberies start. More security hired. Profits get burned up, once the place is not economically viable, it closes.
Now you cannot ride the bus to the store.

Same thing happens to the big chains, when you cannot make any money, the big chains close up, it is a business, not a charity.
Now you cannot even find an open food store.

In a city, a lot of people, especially old widows do not have a car. Having to drive to the next town to buy food is a burden. I remember my Grandfather taking My grandmother and two other old women to the store several miles away because they had no one to drive them. They would bring a crayon and put their names on the bags for the ride home.

The people that cannot get to good groceries are in a bad way. Every time you see a documentary on food deserts, they are making corporate grocery companies the bad guys. The business types would LOVE to put a store n the middle of a food desert, but every time someone does, crime chases it away.

Until someone is brave enough to tell the truth and people learn to take care of their own neighborhoods again, it will keep happening. If you make it easy to be a criminal, all you get is more criminals.

 

[Route 45]

Here's what the death of a nation looks like.

I'll see your shoplifters and raise you...

 

[BigRed]

It is easier than ever for thugs.

 

[jake blue]

This is why they call Indianapolis a food desert. All the neighborhood grocery stores got tired of constant robberies until the cost of loss and security got unsustainable and they closed. All the big box stores like Walmart and Meijer close at night unlike their suburban counterparts outside of 465 which are usually 24-hr. IndyGo's hub-and-spoke route system makes a bus trip for groceries an all-day affair so expect melted frozens by the time you get home. The people who suffer are usually the ones who have no means to relocate but I'm guessing they also are the ones responsible for raising the pieces of $#!+ who are robbing the stores in the first place.

I spent about 4 years living in Indy, Mapleton-Fall Creek. There was an abandoned building at the end of the block near the intersection of 34th and Central that I was told used to be a neighborhood grocery but closed due to repeated robberies. Every other business around had bars on every window and door. The house I lived in was flanked on three sides by abandoned houses so it was surprisingly quiet but you'd see people coming and going at night using these locations for who-knows-what. I moved three blocks away to a more populated block and was burgled 3 times in 2 years. You'd think with neighbors right there someone would speak up but their attitude was that if you just let them take what they want they won't harm you personally.

So when society accepts theft as a matter of course then the criminal becomes the protected class and the armed defending citizen becomes the criminal. Sounds about where we've arrived in much of America today. Criminals can riot, loot and burn down cities with impunity but let a group protest an election and they're hunted down and prosecuted as terrorists. This didn't just happen overnight - it's been being bred into society for a couple of generations by generous entitlement programs and stoking animosity between races and classes. All the while the ruling elite have been sitting back and cementing their station while the rest of us struggle to survive. It started in the urban areas but soon there won't be a corner of this country that isn't embroiled in this chaos and anarchy. If you think you can just move away and avoid it eventually that'll no longer be an option.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

We had a barn once that was leased out to a ****** renter. It became overrun with rats.

Traps, poison, and an opportunistic gun shot put an end to it.

What did you do about the rats?

 

[Breeve]

If I were King, I'd immediately lift all Covid restrictions and remove all extended and enhanced unemployment benefits and tell people to get their asses back to work. I'd declare that the longshoremen were essential personnel and order them back to work, 3 shifts, 7 days a week until the backlogs were cleared. Same for truckers and other supply chain essential personnel. Kind of like the WWII era.

Drive a truck, we haven't had any abnormal time off since this started.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Drive a truck, we haven't had any abnormal time off since this started.

But for whatever reason there is a shortage of drivers. I'm sure the ones that are still driving have been busy.

 

[Breeve]

But for whatever reason there is a shortage of drivers. I'm sure the ones that are still driving have been busy.

Every trucking job I've ever worked has been short drivers. They just seem to be pointing it out now.

 

[drillsgt]

I'll see your shoplifters and raise you...

The real zombie apocalypse

 

[Leadeye]

I watched that video and it looks cut and staged to me. I've never been to Philly, but most of the people, age, cloths, and hair styles look too clean and fashionable to be street people. Some parts look real and the picture looks a little grainy compared to the rest. Why are they all bent over.

 

[Twangbanger]

The axe will fall on Columbus, sooner or later, just like every plant town. The day will come when, yes, even Cummins will pack up and depart for cheaper pastures. They've been luckier than most, but one day it will happen.

Exactly. Columbus' eventual story began to be written when Cummins began importing third world engineers on visas and turned the sign from Blue to Red. They are no different than anyone; it will just take longer because they're not strictly light auto and have exposure to other markets.

 

[two70]

I will deliver your groceries for...

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With the way inflation is going, you may have undersold your services.

 

[Route 45]

I watched that video and it looks cut and staged to me. I've never been to Philly, but most of the people, age, cloths, and hair styles look too clean and fashionable to be street people. Some parts look real and the picture looks a little grainy compared to the rest.

Here are several months of similar videos from that area. If it's fake, it's the longest running street performance art fair that I've ever seen.

Not surprised at the disbelief, though.

LINK:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOuf_kStlWnhuauw4ce8l-w/videos

Why are they all bent over.

Well, it ain't food poisoning.

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[snapping turtle]

Dad worked for DELCO REMY in Anderson Indiana and retired from the plant. I remember the strike in the late 1970’s or early 1980’s. He walked the strIke line and I do not remember how long they shut the plants down.
He said that “we got the best union contract ever gained from GM In the history of the UAW”. Next sentence was ”I think we also killed off local 662 with this contract.” “The union is so strong the company must destroy it.“
Destroy it they did. I remember 1984 and unemployment rate in Anderson in the high 20 percent and low 30 precent. The first plant shifts to southern states. My high school class with 427 students my freshman year and 283 by my senior year. Most of those were people who had to move away.
The plants closed up one after the next. Anderson would not grant permits to tear down the old plants because of the tax revenue loss. I think GM sued and won then the plants were torn down. Left the whole city with retirement age workers who had enough time to shift plant to plant until the end came. Limited tax revenue and only fast food jobs for those younger than 50. Home sales and values dropped. Finally they dropped enough that it became affordable to buy a house and drive an hour to a job.
now you have a casino and some retail. A downtown in shambles.
Those with cash fled the area. The old plants still have environmental issues yet to be resolved.

worked and played in the Anderson area all my life. I think the last time I went to Anderson was to watch the ponies run with friends for a 50th birthday because the guy smokes and can smoke and drink at the pony show. I avoid it if possible.

 

[cobber]

I watched that video and it looks cut and staged to me. I've never been to Philly, but most of the people, age, cloths, and hair styles look too clean and fashionable to be street people. Some parts look real and the picture looks a little grainy compared to the rest. Why are they all bent over.

There are a bunch of videos of that neighborhood. All equally dismal.

 

[Leadeye]

Looked through some of those videos, the one from Camden looks real to me. Others I watched I'm thinking some of the people look too clean and rather dramatic.

That said, I haven't visited a city in a long time and have no plans to. Local drug dealers are visible here, but I don't see zombies walking around their yards and their customers look way rougher than many of those people in the videos.