NRA and Ellsworth

[glockednlocked]

I agree coats is not my choice but the nra is so screwed up. ellsworth votes how obama and pelosi tell him to. he can be pro gun in indiana but in dc he does as he is told. he will sell us out! there is no doubt He will sell us out! coats is weak but he is a chance. ellsworth is a absolute kick in the head to gun owners mark my words

 

[glockednlocked]

nra is not giving any of my money to those rat bastardos they will never see a penny from me again all democrats are gun grabbers when told to fall in line in dc. they lie cheat and are stealing out country blind. wake up people

 

[melensdad]

all democrats are gun grabbers

That is absolutely UNTRUE and not based on any fact. There are many Democratic legislators who are VERY STRONG PRO-GUN advocates and have championed pro-gun legislation when Republicans were far less supportive.

 

[E5RANGER375]

I actually agree with you. But it leaves me where I don't know what to do. Vote for the Libertarian or some other party that will be happy to get 5%?

well if we all wise up they they wont just get 5%

all it takes is for people to take a stand against corruption and actualy CAST a REAL VOTE!! people always say if you vote for a 3rd party candidate your wasting your vote, but i have wised up recently and realized thats just what the republiCANTS and demoCRAPS want you to believe. I believe that if you vote either republican or democrats your actualy wasting your vote. if you vote for a 3rd party or write in candidate then you are actualy voting for the first time and taking a stand.

republicans and democrats have it all locked down together. they are in the same boat to deliver crap. one just does it slowly and the other faster. but either way in the end your getting a paper bag filled with poo and on fire delivered to your door step to ruin your nike's.

i hope we all wise up this november and kick all their sorry asses to the curb and vote for REAL CHANGE!!! dont vote democrat or republican. if we all gave it a shot just once then imagine what we could do.

our founders took a chance once and risked their lives, livelyhood, futures, land, names, for something they believed would be the best for the future generations and in the end they prevailed and REVOLUTIONIZED the world as they knew it. I think its long time we all stood up as men and women and make our votes count. its the least we can do to thank our founders and framers who died and lived for us to be free. the republicans and democratic parties are BOTH taking us back to 1776. which would you rather try first? a ballot box, or another rev******* ????

 

[O2guy]

well if we all wise up they they wont just get 5%

all it takes is for people to take a stand against corruption and actualy CAST a REAL VOTE!! people always say if you vote for a 3rd party candidate your wasting your vote, but i have wised up recently and realized thats just what the republiCANTS and demoCRAPS want you to believe. I believe that if you vote either republican or democrats your actualy wasting your vote. if you vote for a 3rd party or write in candidate then you are actualy voting for the first time and taking a stand.

republicans and democrats have it all locked down together. they are in the same boat to deliver crap. one just does it slowly and the other faster. but either way in the end your getting a paper bag filled with poo and on fire delivered to your door step to ruin your nike's.

i hope we all wise up this november and kick all their sorry asses to the curb and vote for REAL CHANGE!!! dont vote democrat or republican. if we all gave it a shot just once then imagine what we could do.

our founders took a chance once and risked their lives, livelyhood, futures, land, names, for something they believed would be the best for the future generations and in the end they prevailed and REVOLUTIONIZED the world as they knew it. I think its long time we all stood up as men and women and make our votes count. its the least we can do to thank our founders and framers who died and lived for us to be free. the republicans and democratic parties are BOTH taking us back to 1776. which would you rather try first? a ballot box, or another rev******* ????

What he said..Would rep but says I need to spread it around WTF don't agree with most...lol

 

[T-rav]

well if we all wise up they they wont just get 5%

all it takes is for people to take a stand against corruption and actualy CAST a REAL VOTE!! people always say if you vote for a 3rd party candidate your wasting your vote, but i have wised up recently and realized thats just what the republiCANTS and demoCRAPS want you to believe. I believe that if you vote either republican or democrats your actualy wasting your vote. if you vote for a 3rd party or write in candidate then you are actualy voting for the first time and taking a stand.

republicans and democrats have it all locked down together. they are in the same boat to deliver crap. one just does it slowly and the other faster. but either way in the end your getting a paper bag filled with poo and on fire delivered to your door step to ruin your nike's.

i hope we all wise up this november and kick all their sorry asses to the curb and vote for REAL CHANGE!!! dont vote democrat or republican. if we all gave it a shot just once then imagine what we could do.

our founders took a chance once and risked their lives, livelyhood, futures, land, names, for something they believed would be the best for the future generations and in the end they prevailed and REVOLUTIONIZED the world as they knew it. I think its long time we all stood up as men and women and make our votes count. its the least we can do to thank our founders and framers who died and lived for us to be free. the republicans and democratic parties are BOTH taking us back to 1776. which would you rather try first? a ballot box, or another rev******* ????

For some reason I cant rep you! lol

Im voting 3rd party for senate this time round


3rd Party a vote not wasted

 

[E5RANGER375]

you know, its pretty sad to think that we (living today) have never realy known true freedom as it was passed to us by our framers. the amazing thing is, that even though the republic they established for us has been twisted and corupted by these career politicians, its still the best country in the world, and the most free. but I dont think it will hold out much longer if we (NOW) fail to act. we owe it to future generations that we will never know, to correct the path we are on, and return this country to its true FULL greatness it once was and still can become again. there is NO compromise on constitutional issues. there cannot be. it will not work. remeber that while your reviewing your choices for this november. it doesnt have to be a game of give and take and compromise if we make sure we elect PUBLIC SERVANTS who are already on the right page; the constitution. it will make their jobs easier too, and more stable. BEWARE OF FALSE PATRIOTS!

it will take all of us working together and laying it on the line to get our country back. too many people are lazy and just would rather pass our problems today onto the next generations. reminds me of credit cards. buy today and pay with blood later. only when its someone elses blood your paying with it makes it wrong.

 

[PatriotPride]

You know, I wear Vans and Puma most of the time, but the message still applies (in regards to ruining my Nikes with a burning bag of crap)

There can be NO compromise. Socialists want to treat the Constitution as a list of "suggestions" that can be changed/disregarded at will. I say no more. No more tolerance for those who would destroy our nation and compromise our ideals without a second thought. We have two options for change---it'd be simpler for all involved if we stopped wasting our votes and gave them to a candidate who adheres to the Constitution and who will TRULY work for us, not sell us out on the Hill. If we continue to listen to the lie that a vote towards a 3rd party is a wasted vote, we will go nowhere but down.

 

[j706]

Dont't kmow about anyone else but I will vote for anyone running against Dan Coats sorry turncoat a--. He sold us out and I will never forget it. Matter of fact he cast the deciding vote on the assault weapons ban. I was standing in Shoes Gun Rack with Gary Shoe watching the vote on cable. Screw Dan Coats!!

 

[quicksdraw]

A pox on both their houses! For years I have threatened to vote Libertarian, but ended up caving in and voting for the lesser of 2 evils just to keep the libtards out. NO MORE! This year I vote Libertarian for senate. If enough of us do the same, maybe we can scare the big 2 into some changes.

 

[rhino]

For what it's worth, Coats has admitted he made a mistake in 1994. I don't believe he is as contrite as he should be, but it's better than nothing.

Here's how I see it. We do not want Ellsworth in the Senate for any reason, even if it's to punish Coats. If we don't vote for Coats, Ellsworth is going to the Senate and he's going to do very bad things. Anything bad Coats could do to infringe our gun rights, Ellsworth will do worse. He hasn't done it yet because he hasn't had the opportunity, but if another gun ban or worse is around, the Demos leaders will tell him to jump and he'll do it.

With Coats it's going to suck a lot less.

I'm all for principle. I'm all for picking candidates that match mine. Unfortunately, we're still not growing them on a level where they can get elected yet. Maybe the Tea Party momentum will help. Who knows. In any case, the US Senate races are not the time to make a statement unless the election is a foregone conclusion likewhen D-Bag Lugar runs. When that happens, I always vote for someone else, but that's a luxury I can afford because of the circumstances.

I can't afford to have Ellsworth in the Senate. I don't like Coats (would have preferred Hostettler), but I can't afford to have Ellsworth in the Senate.

 

[rambone]

I'm unlikely to vote Libertarian, I find them no better than the far left, so that limits my field of choices.

LOL

Yeah except that they don't support socialism, national health care, gun control, excessive taxation, Big Government, environmental fascism, irrelevant property rights, the United Nations, welfare, communism...


Just vote for the far left. No discernible difference between collectivism and libertarianism.

 

[Duncan]

This makes me want to vomit. Rather than endorse a pro-2A Libertarian they decide they'd rather have a democrat. WTH?

NRA Endorses Ellsworth: NRA endorses Ellsworth for Senate - fox59.com

They can't endorse some one they WILL NOT GIVE A QUESTIONER TO .

To jog our collective memory .
I called the NRA and ASKED for a questioner for Rebecca to receive a rating from the NRA .

The told me that they do not have the space in their publications , including the cheap electrons on their web site , to list third party candidates .

That is what the man told me over the phone .. I laughed in his ear and told him he can believe that Bul$$ˆit if he wants to but I'm not that dumb .

The NRA is anti gun ... don't forget they supported the instant background checks .

If you're a member of the NRA you're money supports the largest anti gun lobby in Washington DC

Thanks
Duncan

 

[photoshooter]

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Here's how I see it. We do not want Ellsworth in the Senate for any reason, even if it's to punish Coats. If we don't vote for Coats, Ellsworth is going to the Senate and he's going to do very bad things.

I'm going to disagree.

Look at the polling in the race. Coats is running about a 20 point lead consistantly.

I'm guessing that the NRA endorsement might help Smellsworse by 5 points. (We'll have to wait to see, but I doubt that many folks will be swayed by the endorsement).

That gives Darth Dan at worst, a 15 point lead.

Even if the Libertarians peel off half of Dan's lead (a wishful number according to any pundit), that still leaves him almost 8 points up.

In any statewide race - won by 8 points! - that would count as a landslide.

But - losing 7 additional points to the Libertarian party will scare the willies out of the GOP. They know that they are riding the TEA Party/Anti-Obama wave right now. It'll be hugs and kisses on election night - but the smoke-filled back rooms will be buzzing about the reaction of the voters to the Libertarian party.

Voting for the third candidate in this race is NOT throwing away a vote. It will take major bad news to drop Dan in the polls, and get this race close. That, IMO is probably why the NRA jumped into our little race. They surmised that they wouldn't be enough of an impact on the race - but they can still massage their connection with Dems who do win by saying "See... we stood by our principles and endorsed a Pelosi Lap-dog who was pro-gun..."

 

[E5RANGER375]

For what it's worth, Coats has admitted he made a mistake in 1994. I don't believe he is as contrite as he should be, but it's better than nothing.

Here's how I see it. We do not want Ellsworth in the Senate for any reason, even if it's to punish Coats. If we don't vote for Coats, Ellsworth is going to the Senate and he's going to do very bad things. Anything bad Coats could do to infringe our gun rights, Ellsworth will do worse. He hasn't done it yet because he hasn't had the opportunity, but if another gun ban or worse is around, the Demos leaders will tell him to jump and he'll do it.

With Coats it's going to suck a lot less.

I'm all for principle. I'm all for picking candidates that match mine. Unfortunately, we're still not growing them on a level where they can get elected yet. Maybe the Tea Party momentum will help. Who knows. In any case, the US Senate races are not the time to make a statement unless the election is a foregone conclusion likewhen D-Bag Lugar runs. When that happens, I always vote for someone else, but that's a luxury I can afford because of the circumstances.

I can't afford to have Ellsworth in the Senate. I don't like Coats (would have preferred Hostettler), but I can't afford to have Ellsworth in the Senate.

see thats the attitude that will never allow the changes we need in this country. scared to do the right thing.

if ellsworth gets elected and helps pass another gun bill, then I will not stand for it and I dont think many other Americans will either. one more infrindgement on my gun rights and it will be time to muster.

 

[Pocketman]

He has an A rating. Coats voted for the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban. You seem surprised. We Republicans really screwed the pooch in the primary. I didn't vote for him. There were too many alternative candidates that split up the vote.

+1 on that!

 

[photoshooter]

Those of you who support Ellse-worth. I'm curious.

Do you support him SOLELY because of his NRA rating - and ignore all other issues (passing that steaming pile of donkey dung that takes over the entire health care system and tosses our Constitution completely onto the bonfire).

Or, do you support him because he's a liberal and has a good NRA rating?

 

[Pocketman]

... democrats are gun grabbers ...

I agree with melonsdad. Party affiliation isn't an indication of where people stand on issues. Heck, what politicians say doesn't even match what they do.

 

[Ramen]

I agree with melonsdad. Party affiliation isn't an indication of where people stand on issues. Heck, what politicians say doesn't even match what they do.

Individuals may not be. But those individuals still vote Pelosi as Speaker, and she is. So you do have to look at that when you are making your vote.

 

[kludge]

For what it's worth, Coats has admitted he made a mistake in 1994. I don't believe he is as contrite as he should be, but it's better than nothing.

Here's how I see it. We do not want Ellsworth in the Senate for any reason, even if it's to punish Coats. If we don't vote for Coats, Ellsworth is going to the Senate and he's going to do very bad things. Anything bad Coats could do to infringe our gun rights, Ellsworth will do worse. He hasn't done it yet because he hasn't had the opportunity, but if another gun ban or worse is around, the Demos leaders will tell him to jump and he'll do it.

With Coats it's going to suck a lot less.

I'm all for principle. I'm all for picking candidates that match mine. Unfortunately, we're still not growing them on a level where they can get elected yet. Maybe the Tea Party momentum will help. Who knows. In any case, the US Senate races are not the time to make a statement unless the election is a foregone conclusion likewhen D-Bag Lugar runs. When that happens, I always vote for someone else, but that's a luxury I can afford because of the circumstances.

I can't afford to have Ellsworth in the Senate. I don't like Coats (would have preferred Hostettler), but I can't afford to have Ellsworth in the Senate.

Pretty much agree with this.

A vote for Coats is the only chance to not have a Senate majority. Ellsworth will vote lockstep with his party