NASCAR Complaints

[DoggyDaddy]

They need to go back to what made it popular. Very few rules on the vehicles, and let the drivers get into it with each other.

There is no personality in the cars or drivers anymore. It's all very vanilla.

I'd like to see homologation come back as well. No more purpose built tube cars. Race STOCK cars with rolls cages.

Great, now you want to see the LGBTQ's get involved?? Wait... wasn't Gordon's nickname "The Rainbow Warrior"?

 

[thunderchicken]

They need to go back to what made it popular. Very few rules on the vehicles, and let the drivers get into it with each other.

There is no personality in the cars or drivers anymore. It's all very vanilla.

I'd like to see homologation come back as well. No more purpose built tube cars. Race STOCK cars with rolls cages.

In large part I agree 100%. Where I disagree is on the "No more purpose built tube cars". Racing true factory cars with a roll cage died a very long time ago. How far back do you want to go? I mean heck in the 60s & 70s the "factory cars" as people think of them were in very large part, purpose built race cars. While they retained the stock body most everything else was stripped down and modified specifically for racing. Again other than body panels..and even way back then they didn't have any templates so stuff was massaged, there was never really much STOCK about a stock car.
Likewise in the effort to increase safety, all those tubes have a purpose. Roll cage construction has changed immensely over the years

 

[thunderchicken]

Great, now you want to see the LGBTQ's get involved?? Wait... wasn't Gordon's nickname "The Rainbow Warrior"?

Actually his team was called the rainbow warriors

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Actually his team was called the rainbow warriors

All of them were homologated??

 

[Ingomike]

All of them were homologated??

They kicked the azz of all the other teams. Read on Jayski a couple years ago that if points were refigured the same way they always were before NASCAR changed the rules that Jiffy Jeff would have 9 championships.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Okay, I had to go and google what homologated actually meant. Man. It's gettin' to where a man can't make bad jokes around here.

 

[ATOMonkey]

In large part I agree 100%. Where I disagree is on the "No more purpose built tube cars". Racing true factory cars with a roll cage died a very long time ago. How far back do you want to go? I mean heck in the 60s & 70s the "factory cars" as people think of them were in very large part, purpose built race cars. While they retained the stock body most everything else was stripped down and modified specifically for racing. Again other than body panels..and even way back then they didn't have any templates so stuff was massaged, there was never really much STOCK about a stock car.
Likewise in the effort to increase safety, all those tubes have a purpose. Roll cage construction has changed immensely over the years

I'd like to see it become something similar to what is done in most touring car series.

I just want to see more innovation, and I want that to translate to more cool cars.

 

[cbhausen]

I'd like to see it become something similar to what is done in most touring car series.

I just want to see more innovation, and I want that to translate to more cool cars.

V8 Supercars rock and put on awesome races. Check out the Bathurst 1000 at Mount Panorama and even if you can’t stand DW watch this all the way through.

And if anyone wants to take a lap around the virtual Mount Panorama circuit send me a PM. I have it in iRacing. with a full motion simulator in Brownsburg and it’s quite a ride.:

[video=youtube_share;kLkLtBkUVuo]http://youtu.be/kLkLtBkUVuo[/video]

 

[JettaKnight]

V8 Supercars rock and put on awesome races. Check out the Bathurst 1000 at Mount Panorama and even if you can’t stand DW watch this all the way through.

And if anyone wants to take a lap around the virtual Mount Panorama circuit send me a PM. I have it in iRacing. with a full motion simulator in Brownsburg and it’s quite a ride.:

[video=youtube_share;kLkLtBkUVuo]http://youtu.be/kLkLtBkUVuo[/video]

Why is a (former?) professional racing car driving crying like a little girl?

 

[jbombelli]

This is much better.

[video=youtube;pONGMEaiYTI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONGMEaiYTI[/video]

 

[rvb]

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/heres-why-nascar-bristol-race-had-so-many-empty-seats

it's the hotel rates causing empty seats.

I suspect very soon you will see a drop in those special event rates at hotels.....

-rvb

 

[churchmouse]

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/heres-why-nascar-bristol-race-had-so-many-empty-seats

it's the hotel rates causing empty seats.

I suspect very soon you will see a drop in those special event rates at hotels.....

-rvb

They have blamed it on everything else why not this.

The governing body need only look in the mirror to see the problem.

 

[Super Bee]

I think everyone except the race teams forgot there was a race in Michigan today, the stands are freakin empty.

They showed the parking area and you could clearly see empty spots everywhere including right up front. I remember going up to the Michigan races 10 years ago and it was crazy packed and thats before they tore down 1/3 of the stands.

Race attendance is way, way down, TV numbers are a joke, how much longer can this limp along.

 

[churchmouse]

I think everyone except the race teams forgot there was a race in Michigan today, the stands are freakin empty.

They showed the parking area and you could clearly see empty spots everywhere including right up front. I remember going up to the Michigan races 10 years ago and it was crazy packed and thats before they tore down 1/3 of the stands.

Race attendance is way, way down, TV numbers are a joke, how much longer can this limp along.

NASCAR ruined it. I will debate this to no end.

 

[Super Bee]

NASCAR ruined it. I will debate this to no end.

Agreed. And its really too bad as they did have a good product, not to mention a cash cow.

 

[churchmouse]

Agreed. And its really too bad as they did have a good product, not to mention a cash cow.

When the old men passed the kids ****ed it up completely.

 

[terrehautian]

Five years ago it would be on broadcast main networks. Today it is on nbcsn.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Michigan has always been kind of a boring race though, to be fair. Usually not a lot of cautions or "mixing it up".

 

[target64]

I will watch nascar cause I usually catch a nap during the broadcast. With this new format, to me it is no longer a race.

 

[nipprdog]

https://www.secondamendmentdaily.com/2019/08/nascar-embraces-anti-gun-movement/