Think about what is being said.
EPA. Mandated CAFE standards. Aero is all important. Crumple zones. Parking spots are smaller and smaller. We are being herded towards public transportation.
Soon the only rear wheel drive V-8 from GM will be the rear engine vette. And the millennial's could give a crap so no, the manf's do not care much. No money in it for them.
Speaking as one of those millienial types whose dad and granddad were/are both big car guys...the truth is that cars today are just not fun to work on because the computer does all the little tinkering they used to do, and trying to mess around in those tight, sensor strewn engine compartments is an exercise in frustration more than fun for them. My brother is the only one of my siblings that cares about having a car with some style and muscle, and the unfortunate result is that the family has spent more time and money on his '08 charger than on the entire fleet of Prius/Tundras that the rest of us opted for. The Prius, boring and low-powered as they are by comparison, are so reliable I haven't ever really worked on mine aside from changing the oil. It just doesn't need it and hasn't for about 320,000 miles. In a world where wages are stagnating relative to costs, the fact that I don't have to burn 150 bucks on parts and half a weekend fixing stuff is actually a big deal.
I'd argue it isn't that car culture is dying owing to intentional stresses, but as a natural result of improvements in reliability and complexity. Heck, dad told me stories about all the stuff he had to do to maintain his vehicles like packing his own bearings periodically etc that literally just isn't a thing anymore. You do you have some millienials who want desperately to take a train everywhere like they do in Europe (nevermind the obvious problem of distances between cities here vs there) but even a country boy like myself just can't be brought to care if my car has a throaty roar or a couple extra hundred horse if that roar and horse costs me hundreds or thousands of dollars and days of time in maintenance.
Got our own thread. LOL
I can remember when the annual NASCAR threads were like the Colts threads. It was several fans literally giving play by play comments, etc.. It was like virtually sitting around with your buddies watching a game or a race. I miss those days. Now they both end up turning into bitch sessions about the team or sport they started out to support.Funny thing no cared enough about NASCAR to even complain about it in several years…
Those are small factors, that are prominent and evident to you and I because our demo was pizzed by the kneeling and noise crap. The NFL is setting records for viewers while NASCAR has lost half their fans, way bigger than that crap.I can remember when the annual NASCAR threads were like the Colts threads. It was several fans literally giving play by play comments, etc.. It was like virtually sitting around with your buddies watching a game or a race. I miss those days. Now they both end up turning into bitch sessions about the team or sport they started out to support.
I think with the NFL, it started with the kneeling crap. With NASCAR, it was slower, but it accelerated with the Bubba Wallace "noose" BS.
Oh I'm just talking about the threads themselves really. And a lot of "outsiders" tended to infiltrate and start their own crap.Those are small factors, that are prominent and evident to you and I because our demo was pizzed by the kneeling and noise crap. The NFL is setting records for viewers while NASCAR has lost half their fans, way bigger than that crap.
It's just not the same without greg. View attachment 306826
Are you implying you are low hanging fruit?
He is fondling NASCAR's fruit.Are you implying you are low hanging fruit?
Sounds like first hand knowledge….He is fondling NASCAR's fruit.
Your delusion is only surpassed but your unnatural love for NASCAR.Sounds like first hand knowledge….
Your delusion is only surpassed but your unnatural love for NASCAR.
Delusion
Firm and fixed belief based on inadequate grounding
A delusion is a false fixed belief that is not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, hallucination, or some other misleading effects of perception, as individuals with those beliefs are able to change or readjust their beliefs upon reviewing the evidence.
Youre a fruit?
"Cherry picking"...Youre a fruit?
I dont get the point youre trying to make here