Is 2022 Elections going to be a Red Tidal Wave?

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  • jamil

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    I was unaware that 'unmarried white people with degrees' = 'the country'

    And going with 'sub-human hillbilly cretins'sounds more like it was written by Hillary than a member of INGO

    Is 'insurrection believer' the flip side of 'election denier'? Asking for a friend
    Anecdotally he's kinda right in my experience. Just in talking to people from work, or friends and relatives, you can only get away with saying 1/6 wasn't an insurrection around people who are more favorable towards Trump. They think it's nutty to say it wasn't.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Anecdotally he's kinda right in my experience. Just in talking to people from work, or friends and relatives, you can only get away with saying 1/6 wasn't an insurrection around people who are more favorable towards Trump. They think it's nutty to say it wasn't.
    As an unmarried white person, I say :bs:. Unmarried white liberals? Sure.
     

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    No doubt about it. There were 9 Goverors' elections decided by single digits. Democrats won 7 of them. Midterms are base-activation elections. And Trump activates the Democrat base like nothing we've experienced in our lifetimes. Unmarried white people with degrees despise Trump. Exit polling is showing that just as many people showed up to vote against Trump, as showed up to vote against Biden. As low as Biden's approval numbers were, it was completely canceled out by Trump's unpopularity.

    Those videos of sub-human hillbilly cretins crushing people inside the Capitol building like some kind of out-of-control rock concert got tweeted, and re-tweeted, and re-tweeted again, and again, and again. Young educated people were absolutely horrified at what the "Plumbers, Truck-Drivers, and Heavy-Metal Musicians For Trump" did that day. I don't believe that was Trump's fault. It was (some of) his voters' fault. Trump did great things as President. But it got permanently marred because some of his voters don't know how to behave in public. One of our "hero patriots" had to get wheeled out while assuming room temperature with her t!ts flopping at the sky and blood puring out of her neck to emphasize the point.

    Mail ballots, abortion, candidate quality, and the midterm map all worked against Republicans. But as long as Trump is the face of the party, what he accomplished as President does not matter. Thanks to a small screeching horde of Facebook Warriors, it all got canceled-out on Jan. 6th.

    Showing up at the doors of the Capitol after the election with Viking hats and zip-ties and crushing people in a human wave does not convince people to "take back their country." It turns the country against you and convinces them *YOU* are the problem.
    Everyone keeps trying to figure out what happened.
    The machines are what happened.
    Does FJB mean anything?
    All across the country.
    We are being played.
     

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    Anecdotally he's kinda right in my experience. Just in talking to people from work, or friends and relatives, you can only get away with saying 1/6 wasn't an insurrection around people who are more favorable towards Trump. They think it's nutty to say it wasn't.

    Because rampant polarization has infected every aspect of life, especially among those who would have never normally paid any attention to politics.

    1/6 is a litmus test for whether someone is beyond being able to be reasoned with. If a protest inside our capitol is seen as insurrection, they are bat **** insane. If people wanted an insurrection, they would have come armed, and we would be living under a government that actually respects the constitution.

    Their comments for what constitutes a "protest" during the BLM era has certified that setting fires and breaking windows is not a riot, and is only a protest, so they should be held to that standard.
     

    Twangbanger

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    I was unaware that 'unmarried white people with degrees' = 'the country'

    And going with 'sub-human hillbilly cretins'sounds more like it was written by Hillary than a member of INGO

    Is 'insurrection believer' the flip side of 'election denier'? Asking for a friend
    The reason "white people" are so important to Republicans, is everybody else is taken. The Democrat Party runs the table by such large margins with other groups, it only needs 39% of the white vote to win.

    When Trump loses any significant chunk of the white demographic by 30 points, it makes it kinda hard to put together a winning coalition. The chunks of the white vote Trump can win by 30 points is limited in size (eg, people in Viking hats, screeching psychotic ex-Air Force women, etc & c).

    Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were the reason Trump won in 2016. Two out of those three states have now permanently adopted pandemic-style mail voting. Trump will _never_ get PA or MI again. "No Republican" will get those states ever again.

    It sure makes places like Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado critical, because two of those three going blue is the same effect as losing Texas.

    If we don't want one-party rule, Republicans will have to "grow the map." The data is screaming in our faces, that Trump cannot do that. The GOP has not won an election since Trump got inaugurated.

    At some point, accountability for results has to accumulate at "The Top." And Trump is the closest thing to a "top" we have, right now. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Because rampant polarization has infected every aspect of life, especially among those who would have never normally paid any attention to politics.

    1/6 is a litmus test for whether someone is beyond being able to be reasoned with. If a protest inside our capitol is seen as insurrection, they are bat **** insane. If people wanted an insurrection, they would have come armed, and we would be living under a government that actually respects the constitution.

    Their comments for what constitutes a "protest" during the BLM era has certified that setting fires and breaking windows is not a riot, and is only a protest, so they should be held to that standard.
    This is objectively false. You don't seem to have even a rudimentary grasp of logic. Once something becomes violent, it's not a protest anymore. It may not rise to the level of an insurrection. But we don't get to call people breaking and entering and crushing other people a protest just because the Looney Left calls it that. Objective Reality is still a thing.

    I want to see the violent BLM'ers punished, same as the 1/6 cretins. But it turns out that doing something violent in the Capitol in broad daylight in front of cameras, where rich, powerful people go to work, garners more consequences than doing it in sh!thole neighborhoods under cover of darkness. Failing to grasp that is pretty f_cking stupid, if you ask me.

    The 1/6 cretins did it to themselves. They are not due a single bit of pity. They did as much harm to this country as the people they were there to protest. Every single one of them oughta be smacked sh!tless for it. In terms of moving the country toward one-party rule, they are the Timothy McVeighs of their time. Bill Clinton was on the political ropes before the Oklahoma City bombing. TMV reset his Presidency for him. The 1/6 cretins did the same thing for Trump, just retroactively and in a different direction.
     
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    Because rampant polarization has infected every aspect of life, especially among those who would have never normally paid any attention to politics.

    1/6 is a litmus test for whether someone is beyond being able to be reasoned with. If a protest inside our capitol is seen as insurrection, they are bat **** insane. If people wanted an insurrection, they would have come armed, and we would be living under a government that actually respects the constitution.

    Their comments for what constitutes a "protest" during the BLM era has certified that setting fires and breaking windows is not a riot, and is only a protest, so they should be held to that standard.
    Yep, there are plenty of sanity tests questions these days. That one. Was Hunter Biden's laptop Russian disinformation? Did Trump collude with Rusians to win the 2016 election. Etcetera.
     

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    The reason "white people" are so important to Republicans, is everybody else is taken. The Democrat Party runs the table by such large margins with other groups, it only needs 39% of the white vote to win.

    When Trump loses any significant chunk of the white demographic by 30 points, it makes it kinda hard to put together a winning coalition. The chunks of the white vote Trump can win by 30 points is limited in size (eg, people in Viking hats, screeching psychotic ex-Air Force women, etc & c).

    Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were the reason Trump won in 2016. Two out of those three states have now permanently adopted pandemic-style mail voting. Trump will _never_ get PA or MI again. "No Republican" will get those states ever again.

    It sure makes places like Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado critical, because two of those three going blue is the same effect as losing Texas.

    If we don't want one-party rule, Republicans will have to "grow the map." The data is screaming in our faces, that Trump cannot do that. The GOP has not won an election since Trump got inaugurated.

    At some point, accountability for results has to accumulate at "The Top." And Trump is the closest thing to a "top" we have, right now. You can't have it both ways.
    It's worth mentioning that Colorado has had mail-in voting since 2013. But they pretty much turned blue before that. The last time the GOP won Colorado was 2004. In the 8 elections 2004 and earlier, GOP won 7 of them. So it looks like GWB's second term was the last. Of the last 12 governors, only two have been Republicans. Been pretty even in the Senate. A few more House Republicans elected in CO.

    But. Point is, Colorado IS blue, and likely will stay blue, and it got that way before mail-in voting. But certainly with that plus ballot harvesting, it's lost.
     

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    Trump and mini-Trump candidates do not play with suburban women. MAGA policies, IMO, mostly do play well with them. IMO, Trump lost in 2020 because he actively repelled soccer moms for no reason. 2022 "stop the steal" is a repeat of that.

    It's not about election integrity... Georgia Gov. Kemp and SoS Raffensberger made significant election integrity changes... and won re-election despite MSM crucifying them for it.

    They did so by approaching election reform calmly and reasonably, looking forward not backwards.

    Don't want repeats of 2018, 2020, 2020 Georgia Senate run-off and 2022? Appeal to suburban women by being NORMAL.


    Note: Republicans, if you want to win suburban women, a competent conservative politician who just so happens to be a suburban woman may be a swell choice. Between Rebecca and Amy, they could have been the St. Joseph’s Casserole Conservatives, but no, that’d make too much sense. Better to have an off-putting “stop the steal” suit, apparently. Milwaukee didn’t show up for this election, while Dane County, populated by upwardly mobile women, had a 23,000-vote shift toward Democrats compared with 2018 — an already lousy year for Wisconsin Republicans.

    Or at least don't run candidates that REPEL suburban women.
     

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    Trump and mini-Trump candidates do not play with suburban women. MAGA policies, IMO, mostly do play well with them. IMO, Trump lost in 2020 because he actively repelled soccer moms for no reason. 2022 "stop the steal" is a repeat of that.

    It's not about election integrity... Georgia Gov. Kemp and SoS Raffensberger made significant election integrity changes... and won re-election despite MSM crucifying them for it.

    They did so by approaching election reform calmly and reasonably, looking forward not backwards.

    Don't want repeats of 2018, 2020, 2020 Georgia Senate run-off and 2022? Appeal to suburban women by being NORMAL.




    Or at least don't run candidates that REPEL suburban women.
    Great advice, NOT! The biggest enemies of conservatives and constitutionalists are, suburban women, especially unmarried suburban women.

    Think that sounds strident? It is. They are the ones pushing all the crap most conservatives despise. Why on earth would we sell out to them. Conservatives need to work to align themselves with other similarly conservative groups, blacks and Hispanics. That coalition is the only way conservatives can beat back the rising communism…
     

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    It's not about election integrity... Georgia Gov. Kemp and SoS Raffensberger made significant election integrity changes... and won re-election despite MSM crucifying them for it.

    You mean the dirty former SOS/governor and his henchman, that received kickbacks for buying voting equipment?

    The ones that allowed the left to steal the presidential election and two senate seats?

    Great example…
     

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    Great advice, NOT! The biggest enemies of conservatives and constitutionalists are, suburban women, especially unmarried suburban women.

    Think that sounds strident? It is. They are the ones pushing all the crap most conservatives despise. Why on earth would we sell out to them. Conservatives need to work to align themselves with other similarly conservative groups, blacks and Hispanics. That coalition is the only way conservatives can beat back the rising communism…
    Think soccer moms... the ones who don't want their children taught CRT or have their girls play soccer against boys. Whose family PAYS taxes and has to budget for food, gas, etc.

    Who make casseroles for the after church Sunday gathering.

    Youngsters who have never really lived in the real world... younger unmarried women anywhere, lol... nah, I agree with you on them.
     

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    You mean the dirty former SOS/governor and his henchman, that received kickbacks for buying voting equipment?

    The ones that allowed the left to steal the presidential election and two senate seats?

    Great example…
    ^^^ This right here is what continues to lose elections ^^^

    And it didn't have anything to do with this:


    And of course, the hand marked ballots that Democrats preferred would be better... better for their lawyers to "divine" what the voter's intent was based on random marks on the paper. :rolleyes:

    All I know is I like our touchscreen voting system... touch screen to select your votes, you cannot double-vote an election, a screen to review all of your votes and a printed ballot to confirm your selections.
     

    Ingomike

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    Think soccer moms... the ones who don't want their children taught CRT or have their girls play soccer against boys. Whose family PAYS taxes and has to budget for food, gas, etc.

    Who make casseroles for the after church Sunday gathering.

    Youngsters who have never really lived in the real world... younger unmarried women anywhere, lol... nah, I agree with you on them.
    Unfortunately, I believe the suburban “soccer moms” are lost. Their thinking was a big driver of everything bad during the scamdemic. They have this utopian dream, that will make them safe, that ends in communism. (They search out the safest cars, car seats.) I believe it was that drive to make everything safe that allowed TPTB to wield so much power.

    Who am I describing here? A female that lives in the burbs and or trendy gentrified areas. Has a degree and a good career. If they go to church it is a feel good church, that look down their noses at a casserole.

    Look at the Ted Cruz tweet of the employees of twitter, the before are against about everything we are for. These so called suburban soccer moms have been indoctrinated to despise conservative values. This is easily seen in the burbs of Indy and surrounding counties.
     

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    ^^^ This right here is what continues to lose elections ^^^

    And it didn't have anything to do with this:


    And of course, the hand marked ballots that Democrats preferred would be better... better for their lawyers to "divine" what the voter's intent was based on random marks on the paper. :rolleyes:

    All I know is I like our touchscreen voting system... touch screen to select your votes, you cannot double-vote an election, a screen to review all of your votes and a printed ballot to confirm your selections.
    If you do not believe GA was stolen then we are not even near the same page.

    You may not double vote but if entities expected to be super secure, like, for example, credit reporting agencies, can be hacked over and over, anything can be hacked.
     
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