Is 2022 Elections going to be a Red Tidal Wave?

[printcraft]

I‘m sorry, I’m not up to date on my right-wing boogiemen anymore…is it still Clinton?

Soros?

No…It‘s Bill Gates now, right? because of the 5G and the microchips in the vaccines? That’s probably how he controlled them so well.

Like I said, I’m behind on these things…who told Portland to riot?

So they just did it on their own?

 

[LeftyGunner]

So they just did it on their own?

I don‘t recall Hillary holding a rally outside the White House to tell her people that ”we’re going to walk down to Portland together” or anything like that, if that’s what you mean.

 

[KG1]

Did they?

If so, that person (or group) should be brought up on charges and tried, no?

Seems simple enough to me.

Ray Epps and whomever he was being directed by to go out and convince the crowd to storm the Capitol. I'm betting it wasn't Trump. because for some reason Ray Epps is being protected. If it was under Trump's direction you could be damn sure that he would be hanging upside down from the rafters by now.

 

[Twangbanger]

Well, we may not be able to heat our homes, but at least we can still get an abortion.

But this is essentially "blaming the voters." You're saying voters don't care about the "right' things. 5 days ago, when we thought there would be a Red Wave, Republicans accused Democrats of doing the same thing - "blaming voters" for being concerned about crime and inflation.

Funny how the tables turned on us, isn't it?

There's a lot of blame to go around for this apparent complete, utter, ignominious loss. The GOP has totally failed to adapt to the new reality of mail ballots and early voting. Mitch Turtle and his cronies don't want to fund or assist non-approved Republican candidates, preferring to be the leader of a minority than to lose their control of the majority.

But for better or worse, Tuesday showed us that a lot of voters view abortion through a "Libertarian" lens, an "awful but lawful" thing that government needs to keep its brute-force hands off of.

Christians have a choice. Learn how to share the country with people who aren't like them, or wall themselves off into "Red State Castles," practice "quiet secession," talk about the "End of Days," and lose all the national battles that matter.

 

[printcraft]

I don‘t recall Hillary holding a rally outside the White House to tell her people that ”we’re going to walk down to Portland together” or anything like that, if that’s what you mean.

Tell me again during the summer of love, who was involved in dismissing the actions, bailing these people out and providing political cover?

 

[jamil]

This feels like a gotcha thing, but I’ll respond sincerely.
I’m sorry, I was not familiar with that date, or rather what you meant by it, so I had to google it.

Are you referring to the ”mostly peaceful“ riots following the death of George Floyd, notably in Portland?

If so, then I have no problem denouncing that type of activity. The people who burned and looted Portland (and any others) are criminals, they should be identified, arrested, charged and tried. If they damaged government property, or took actions against government employees, I would expect additional appropriate charges to be explored.

I’m not a partisan, I’m not a true-believer in any political ideology. I’m pro-accountability no matter which ”side” it effects, and it has to start somewhere. We can’t keep giving “our” guys a pass because “their“ guys got one before...at some point we have to steam away from the whirlpool.

I'm not necessarily asking you to denounce it, but it's sane that you did. That you didn't even know about it is really the issue. The right views the George Floyd riots as an assault on the nation. They view it as not really about George Floyd. If it were just about that it would have been against those cops who did it. It was activists fomenting the idea that America is systemically racist, which it is not. And using that as a way to create political unrest. It was a form of domestic terrorism, getting the mob worked up to riot and bring about a revolution. Democrats seemed to like it because it fit in with their stochastic terrorism campaign.

In terms of 1/6, I don't give those Trump supporters a pass for what they did, but let's put what they did in perspective with violence from the left. What's the tally? How many were killed by protestors? How long did it last? How much did one side absolve their own compared to the other? You can read through the whole gambit of 1/6 reaction right here. We have a thread that documented that from the very start to the finish. Some people were supportive of the protests. Some not. All but a fringe few disagreed with the violence. Contrast that with what some on the left fondly called, "the summer of love."

1/6 was a riot. Too much violence. People beating cops. That happened. What I did not see, is right wing media cheering them on. What I did not see is Trumpers murdering the people they disagree with. No one got murdered. One Trumper was shot trying to break into a secured area. That's the only associated death. Tame by BLM standards. Democrats used it to demonize Trump supporters. Biden chief among them.

 

[LeftyGunner]

Tell me again during the summer of love, who was involved in dismissing the actions, bailing these people out and providing political cover?

1967?

Hippies, probably?

I’m going with hippies. Final answer.

 

[drillsgt]

Someone gave them marching orders though right?

Somebody paid for it too...

 

[Ingomike]

January 6th makes a strong argument against Trumpism’s “America First” claims.

Claiming electoral fraud to hold onto power after losing an election is pretty much classic populist fascism.

The divide isn’t due to leftist progs alone…we’re all at this dance, yourself included.

So because your media told you there was no vote fraud does not make it true, and that half the country wanted this investigated by neutral investigators but the dems, their stasi (DOJ and FBI) would not was what threw the country into constitutional crisis. Lots of fail before Jan 6…

 

[Ingomike]

I could see this happening.

They are trying to cover that possibility…

Kentucky legislature limits governor’s Senate appointment power

The Kentucky legislature has passed a bill that would require a governor to fill a vacant U.S. Senate seat with a member of the departed senator’s party in a move sure to spark the political rumor …

thehill.com

 

[jamil]

But this is essentially "blaming the voters." You're saying voters don't care about the "right' things. 5 days ago, when we thought there would be a Red Wave, Republicans accused Democrats of doing the same thing - "blaming voters" for being concerned about crime and inflation.

Funny how the tables turned on us, isn't it?

There's a lot of blame to go around for this apparent complete, utter, ignominious loss. The GOP has totally failed to adapt to the new reality of mail ballots and early voting. Mitch Turtle and his cronies don't want to fund or assist non-approved Republican candidates, preferring to be the leader of a minority than to lose their control of the majority.

But for better or worse, Tuesday showed us that a lot of voters view abortion through a "Libertarian" lens, an "awful but lawful" thing that government needs to keep its brute-force hands off of.

Christians have a choice. Learn how to share the country with people who aren't like them, or wall themselves off into "Red State Castles," practice "quiet secession," and lose all the national battles that matter.

This!

If on odd circumstances Republicans happened to gain majorities in both houses and the presidency, and then enacted an abortion ban nationwide, they'll lose it and likely will not regain it. Pedophiles could openly flaunt their desires in public with overt Democratic support. Racist Democrats could say all kinds of racist things against white people. Democrats could openly--even more overtly than now--call for a communist takeover. Republicans could end inflation and scarcity. Lift Americans to prosperity. End useless wars. Create peace. And Republicans would lose. If you want to get rid of abortions, help change the culture. It's part of the culture now. Policy is downstream from culture. Push that Overton Window.

 

[jamil]

So because your media told you there was no vote fraud does not make it true, and that half the country wanted this investigated by neutral investigators but the dems, their stasi (DOJ and FBI) would not was what threw the country into constitutional crisis. Lots of fail before Jan 6…

Don't forget the role Lincoln Project Republicans had.

 

[Twangbanger]

The window’s narrowing.

Let's take a moment to snark-thank Republican mega-donor Sheldon Adelson. Chamber of Commerce Republicans wanted lots of immigration, legal or illegal, because low-wage immigrant casino workers improve their profit margins. The rural, gun-toting desert state of Nevada is now "West Illinois," a top-heavy one-county state and certified Blue Machine.

Never underestimate Republicans' ability to do it to themselves.

 

[oze]

I could see this happening.

Unfortunately, this is probably a moot point.

 

[jamil]

The window’s narrowing.

Hold on! We're almost done filling in this batch of "mail in" ballots!

 

[KG1]

Ray Epps and whomever he was being directed by to go out and convince the crowd to storm the Capitol. I'm betting it wasn't Trump. because for some reason Ray Epps is being protected. If it was under Trump's direction you could be damn sure that he would be hanging upside down from the rafters by now.

Edit: I'm getting the Portland discussion mixed up with the Jan 6 discussion. I wasn't paying close enough attention and thought we were talking about Jan 6. With that being said back to my point. Why hasn't Ray Epps been arrested and held for trial for inciting an "insurrection" even when there are multiple videos showing him attempting to do just that? Seems rather odd doesn't it?

 

[jamil]

Tell me again during the summer of love, who was involved in dismissing the actions, bailing these people out and providing political cover?

It's a good point. Anyone opposing accountability should be absolutely angry at the procecutors who kept letting people arrested on one night for violence, go free in time to get arrested again the next night for the same violent acts. And his president and vice president bailed them out.

 

[Ingomike]

Now, who did that mob belong to?

Funny thing, that mob is nowhere to be seen, but a republican win will bring them out in force. Why are they nowhere to be seen? They stopped paying and supporting them…

 

[Ingomike]

Did they?

If so, that person (or group) should be brought up on charges and tried, no?

Seems simple enough to me.

Not going to dig it up now but it was done the way most democrat/mob activities are, money to foundations with high sounding names (probably tax deductible), foundations give money to allied organizations, and eventually you get down to some low level organizers who order the pallets of bricks, charter the buses and hand out cash...

 

[Twangbanger]

It's a good point. Anyone opposing accountability should be absolutely angry at the procecutors who kept letting people arrested on one night for violence, go free in time to get arrested again the next night for the same violent acts. And his president and vice president bailed them out.

There's even a new term: "Jan. 6 Hunter." It's the heroic officials looking for high-school educated Republicans with eyepatches in Brazil, who will be lionized by NPR and short-listed as the next group of Soros-funded Prosecutors and DAs.

Meanwhile the Floyd rioters are still giving their pregnant girlfriends black eyes.

Accountability my ***.