High-tech handgun with 'fingerprint and facial recognition biometrics' only shoots in the hands of authorized users

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Oh Bullwinkle, that trick never works…

 

[Ark]

From a tech standpoint I think it's really neat. But I'm also on the "agencies first" team. Y'all feds can roll that out for your own duty weapons and tell me what you think.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I have enough trouble getting my phone to recognize my face and unlock quickly. I don't think I want a gun that might take an extra couple seconds to unlock before I could use it.

Just remember, there is a reason automotive braking systems are not fly by wire.
Can you imagine approaching a stop sign and due to a glitch, the control computer reboots/resets for 5 seconds?

 

[BigRed]

Oh boy. Another “smart gun”. But this one “really works”.

High-tech handgun with 'fingerprint and facial recognition biometrics' only shoots in the hands of authorized users | Blaze Media

Biofire is selling a high-tech handgun that only unlocks and shoots in the hands of an authorized user whose identity is verified via fingerprint or facial recognition technology.The 9mm "Biofire Smart Gun" is powered by a rechargeable battery that the company claims will allow for several hours...

www.theblaze.com

. "The Biofire Smart Gun shoots like any high-quality firearm, but it also feels like you're holding the future in your hand."

You can take your "future" and cram it straight up your ***.

 

[singlestacksig]

yeah, that will work great when you are in the woods, wearing gloves & have camo covering your face.....

 

[actaeon277]

Didn’t think about that aspect of it. That’s why it’s nice to hear other people’s perspectives.

So yeah, wouldn’t want someone or something else to have control of my firearm.

Let's not forget how sensors like this can fail, when the hand is covered in blood, sweat, dirt.



And they told us THIS ONE worked great also. Good enough to trust your life on.
Fired ONCE

Smart Gun Fails During Demonstration

Despite the video being ended quickly, after the first round he kept pulling the trigger but the gun wouldn’t fire. If you listen carefully, you can even hear the trigger making a clicking so…

crimeresearch.org

Most Recent Smart Gun Fail Illustrates Continuing ‘Journalism’ Fail

The operator clearly confirms he intends to fire “two rounds.” He fires one shot.

www.ammoland.com

There have been other guns that failed.
One failed when the company was showing it off.
Can't remember the name, started with an A.
Armetrex or something like that.





So, this gun is good for 'hours'...
And then?
Well, then it's a brick.

 

[actaeon277]

Oh, found it.
Armatix


Not very smart though.
All your kid needs is a magnet.

 

[actaeon277]

Here's some reasons against smart guns...

Such as, politicians have already said that once it's available, you will have to replace your guns with the smart guns.

 

[Ahap]

I trust that about as much as I trust one of those convenience store hot dogs which has been on the rollers for 9-10 days.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Oh, found it.
Armatix


Not very smart though.
All your kid needs is a magnet.

So if you forget to wear your watch, or if you have the gun but not the watch, you'd need to carry a "holster" for your magnetic wand and apply it after you'd have drawn and are confronting an attacker? Yeah, that would go well.

 

[MommaBean18]

Let's not forget how sensors like this can fail, when the hand is covered in blood, sweat, dirt.



And they told us THIS ONE worked great also. Good enough to trust your life on.
Fired ONCE

Smart Gun Fails During Demonstration

Despite the video being ended quickly, after the first round he kept pulling the trigger but the gun wouldn’t fire. If you listen carefully, you can even hear the trigger making a clicking so…

crimeresearch.org

Most Recent Smart Gun Fail Illustrates Continuing ‘Journalism’ Fail

The operator clearly confirms he intends to fire “two rounds.” He fires one shot.

www.ammoland.com

There have been other guns that failed.
One failed when the company was showing it off.
Can't remember the name, started with an A.
Armetrex or something like that.





So, this gun is good for 'hours'...
And then?
Well, then it's a brick.

You, and everyone else, make a good point. Thanks for educating me on it. It is a good idea in theory but now that I’ve been educated more on the topic, not so much.

 

[Mr. Habib]

Yeah, they definitely need to work the kinks out first but I think they may have something here.

As long as you could program more than one person to it, like your spouse (or maybe not depending on your relationship, lol). That way a kid or the bad guy that may get ahold of it couldn’t shoot it.

If it's too dark or too much glare to read your face. Or if you're wearing sunglasses or a hat. Or your hands are dirty, bloody or your grip isn't in the right place for it to recognize your fingerprints. God forbid it's cold and you are wearing gloves or shooting weak hand due to injury then you won't be able to shoot it either. Thanks, I'll pass.

 

[nonobaddog]

Just remember, there is a reason automotive braking systems are not fly by wire.
Can you imagine approaching a stop sign and due to a glitch, the control computer reboots/resets for 5 seconds?

You think braking systems are not fly-by-wire? Watch this video.

Car hacked on 60 Minutes

No real security on the Internet -- even the military is under daily assault - says the man the Defense Department hired to make the web more secure

www.cbsnews.com

 

[MommaBean18]

I trust that about as much as I trust one of those convenience store hot dogs which has been on the rollers for 9-10 days.

Funny story…

One day I was at a well known gas station in this area, Thornton’s, getting my daily Polar Pop. I see this kid about 8yrs old or so who was obviously hungry and I guess thought the items on the rollers were free for the taking. He reached over and grabbed a hotdog/sausage or whatever, went to take a bite and realized it was too hot to hold any longer so threw it right back where he got it from! He looked around to see if anyone noticed (didn’t see me) and took off. Of course I informed the employee.

I’ve never been appealed to the stuff on the rollers at a gas station that anyone can do whatever to, but I’m definitely not after seeing that! Just reassured my skepticism. HaHa

 

[Cameramonkey]

You think braking systems are not fly-by-wire? Watch this video.

Car hacked on 60 Minutes

No real security on the Internet -- even the military is under daily assault - says the man the Defense Department hired to make the web more secure

www.cbsnews.com

Most arent. Most are still master cylinder and mechanical. I wont drive a fancy new car that is testing fly by wire braking. Nope.
But listen closely to that video. the engine is revving. He isnt killing braking, he's overriding the brake by adding throttle. I'd call that a bit of sleight of hand/dishonest journalism to sell the panic. I'm sure if she stood on that pedal it would have stopped.

 

[nonobaddog]

Most arent. Most are still master cylinder and mechanical. I wont drive a fancy new car that is testing fly by wire braking. Nope.
But listen closely to that video. the engine is revving. He isnt killing braking, he's overriding the brake by adding throttle. I'd call that a bit of sleight of hand/dishonest journalism to sell the panic. I'm sure if she stood on that pedal it would have stopped.

I see what you are saying but it doesn't sound right to me. If he were overriding the brake it should rev exactly when she is pressing the brake pedal. It doesn't sound right and sounds like it revs more when she stops even trying to brake. Of course maybe the sound isn't synchronized well but that screws up the arguments both for and against overriding.

Here is some propaganda for brake-by-wire.

Here's How Brake-by-Wire Works, and Why It's Perfectly Safe

More cars are using brake-by-wire systems. There's no need to be afraid.

www.roadandtrack.com

 

[actaeon277]

You, and everyone else, make a good point. Thanks for educating me on it. It is a good idea in theory but now that I’ve been educated more on the topic, not so much.

Many of us have been following this stuff for decades.

That's why we are in the ... not one more inch... category.
We kept giving up ground.
And the anti-s would keep taking it. It never stopped.


Also, most are okay with the idea of a 'smart' gun.
As long as it isn't FORCED on us.
But politicians have already stated they would force it.
New Jersey and California come to mind.
They have specifically stated that they intend to require all guns be 'smart'.

 

[actaeon277]

Smart guns are so great, that so far there are no plans to make them required for police or military.

So, that tells me...

 

[BigMoose]

Reminds of me of that Remington Etronix

Electronicaly primed gun...



Primers alone are now $340 for 1000..lol

 

[thompal]

Yeah, they definitely need to work the kinks out first but I think they may have something here.

As long as you could program more than one person to it, like your spouse (or maybe not depending on your relationship, lol). That way a kid or the bad guy that may get ahold of it couldn’t shoot it.

As long as the battery doesn't die, the terminals don't corrode, the computer doesn't lock up, or the sensors/camera don't get dirty, it may work fine.

All of my experience with fingerprint sensors and facial recognition security systems says this is a bad idea. And that's if it's working to spec.