Frank_N_Stein
Grandmaster
Having done serious range time on multiple occasions with with 88E I do not think he is doing it wrong. The man can run his handguns. Just saying.
I've seen him shoot, I have doubts.
Having done serious range time on multiple occasions with with 88E I do not think he is doing it wrong. The man can run his handguns. Just saying.
I've often thought of Glock stock sights as nothing more than dovetail protectors that Glock puts marks on so you can break the gun in while waiting on your sights to arrive. I never really considered the benefit of the dovetail protectors but you do make a good point. I hate getting a gun with nice sights that are not what I want. It sucks to pull a beautifully made set of steel 3 dots off to replace them with night sights. I wish more manufacturers would offer standard cuts with the option of getting the gun sans sights.
Great! I just picked up a new Gen 4 G23 from USDS an hour ago. I sold my Gen 3 a couple of weeks back and really missed that gun. Figured that the Gen 4 would work for me with the better grip texture. I'll keep my fingers crossed in hoping that it ejects normally.
I've seen him shoot, I have doubts.
I've often thought of Glock stock sights as nothing more than dovetail protectors that Glock puts marks on so you can break the gun in while waiting on your sights to arrive. I never really considered the benefit of the dovetail protectors but you do make a good point. I hate getting a gun with nice sights that are not what I want. It sucks to pull a beautifully made set of steel 3 dots off to replace them with night sights. I wish more manufacturers would offer standard cuts with the option of getting the gun sans sights.
Great! I just picked up a new Gen 4 G23 from USDS an hour ago. I sold my Gen 3 a couple of weeks back and really missed that gun. Figured that the Gen 4 would work for me with the better grip texture. I'll keep my fingers crossed in hoping that it ejects normally.
Funny thing about the wheel guns, they never seem have a failure to feed issue.
I've seen him shoot, I have doubts.
True, but I have seen FAR more jammed up semi autos on the range than jammed up revolvers.
I've personally broken more revolvers than semi-autos, and at lower round counts, and in more catastrophic ways. If you've not broken one or had malfunctions, you just haven't put enough rounds through it yet. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. I've never had a semi-auto lock up due to crud under the extractor star, a high primer, bullet pulling, a bent crane causing the cylinder to meet the forcing cone, etc. For personal carry I can mitigate a lot of factors, as reloads are uncommon in the extreme and I can inspect my ammo and possibly roll check before holstering.
Broke a Model 29 S&W. Gun was done.
Top strap failed.
I've seen him shoot, I have doubts.
I've personally broken more revolvers than semi-autos, and at lower round counts, and in more catastrophic ways. If you've not broken one or had malfunctions, you just haven't put enough rounds through it yet. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. I've never had a semi-auto lock up due to crud under the extractor star, a high primer, bullet pulling, a bent crane causing the cylinder to meet the forcing cone, etc. For personal carry I can mitigate a lot of factors, as reloads are uncommon in the extreme and I can inspect my ammo and possibly roll check before holstering.
Did the cylinder come apart?Broke a Model 29 S&W. Gun was done.
Top strap failed.
On the Glocks. It was clear you enjoy the 1911 platform.
I don't understand the resale value on a Jeep but since I don't like them anyway, it's not an issue for me. I don't like crab so the price doesn't mean much to me. I would think the same would hold true for you with Glocks.
Seems to me everyone keep bringing up the jeep stuff since obviously I own a couple.. But trying to compare the resale value of a jeep vs. percentage resale value of a glock is night and day difference. I see jeeps all day long on craigslist for a couple hundred bucks, I've YET to see a used glock go for a fraction of the cost new and I'm talking less than 10% like jeeps. Insinuating that I don't like them and that they shouldn't hold their value because I don't like them is not where my conclusions are coming from. I like the glocks so the resale value is an issue for me lol. I'm stating I don't see why used glocks hold there value more than any other firearm because they don't take anything to manufacture. When you see a product such as a 1911 that can sell for $350-$400 new with everything it takes to machine/manufacture there is no reason that a glock new or used should go for more than that because of how little machining/manufacturing it takes to make one unit compared to the other. Ya I get market demand and all that jazz now something I didn't take into consideration at first. But to be quite honest people are paying for the name at this point and that's just my opinion. I just simply have a different mindset from working in a manufacturing environment day in and day out. Spending 95% of of that time in a tool room on the granite. Basically a mind set of, if people actually knew and understood what it took/cost to make one they wouldn't be spending the money but ignorance is bliss. A square slide made from a square piece of stock reduces machining time and scrap load which is a win win for them, then add in what they charge per unit. They're taking people to the cleaners! Good for glock but damn people wake up! haha (Not saying you're ignorant.) If I really don't like a gun I wont own it period. I like the glocks but the only reason I have them is because I bought them for a steal (gen 4s $350 with factory grease in it) and I'll make my own before I go spend that kind of money on one.
Did the cylinder come apart?
Usually only thing that will take a top strap out is double charges that take the cylinder out also.
A squib in the barrel will also but usually bulges the barrel first. Sometimes a gun will get damaged from a squib and someone will replace the barrel and the frame was damaged from the squib.
A steady diet of light bullet thumper loads can cause top strap cutting above the forcing cone and while I have never seen a N frame shot enough to do it I suppose it could get bad enough to cut through the top strap. Makes my hands hurt just thinking about how many rounds that would take.
Seems to me everyone keep bringing up the jeep stuff since obviously I own a couple.. But trying to compare the resale value of a jeep vs. percentage resale value of a glock is night and day difference. I see jeeps all day long on craigslist for a couple hundred bucks, I've YET to see a used glock go for a fraction of the cost new and I'm talking less than 10% like jeeps. Insinuating that I don't like them and that they shouldn't hold their value because I don't like them is not where my conclusions are coming from. I like the glocks so the resale value is an issue for me lol. I'm stating I don't see why used glocks hold there value more than any other firearm because they don't take anything to manufacture. When you see a product such as a 1911 that can sell for $350-$400 new with everything it takes to machine/manufacture there is no reason that a glock new or used should go for more than that because of how little machining/manufacturing it takes to make one unit compared to the other. Ya I get market demand and all that jazz now something I didn't take into consideration at first. But to be quite honest people are paying for the name at this point and that's just my opinion. I just simply have a different mindset from working in a manufacturing environment day in and day out. Spending 95% of of that time in a tool room on the granite. Basically a mind set of, if people actually knew and understood what it took/cost to make one they wouldn't be spending the money but ignorance is bliss. A square slide made from a square piece of stock reduces machining time and scrap load which is a win win for them, then add in what they charge per unit. They're taking people to the cleaners! Good for glock but damn people wake up! haha (Not saying you're ignorant.) If I really don't like a gun I wont own it period. I like the glocks but the only reason I have them is because I bought them for a steal (gen 4s $350 with factory grease in it) and I'll make my own before I go spend that kind of money on one.
If you like/trust them then of course......carry on.
I will never own an RIA in any form. I have seen far to much ignorant crap inside of them.
Seen a couple of OK ones but I have no desire to own one.
I've often thought of Glock stock sights as nothing more than dovetail protectors that Glock puts marks on so you can break the gun in while waiting on your sights to arrive. I never really considered the benefit of the dovetail protectors but you do make a good point. I hate getting a gun with nice sights that are not what I want. It sucks to pull a beautifully made set of steel 3 dots off to replace them with night sights. I wish more manufacturers would offer standard cuts with the option of getting the gun sans sights.
Great! I just picked up a new Gen 4 G23 from USDS an hour ago. I sold my Gen 3 a couple of weeks back and really missed that gun. Figured that the Gen 4 would work for me with the better grip texture. I'll keep my fingers crossed in hoping that it ejects normally.