FTFYDo they just stand by and allow the country to be turned into a 3rd world sh**hole likeSomaliaUSA (say Portland / Seattle / S***cago etc.)?
FTFYDo they just stand by and allow the country to be turned into a 3rd world sh**hole likeSomaliaUSA (say Portland / Seattle / S***cago etc.)?
The US doesn't even have the stomach for that, France surely wouldn't.And at which point do you start stacking them like cordwood until the rest decide they wont want to be the one stacked?
There has to be a point at which you have to do uncomfortable things or else your country is literally destroyed beyond repair because you are outnumbered and unable to calm things down through normal means.
Do they just stand by and allow the country to be turned into a 3rd world sh**hole like Somalia?
Its a definite no win situation.
Meh. But France I assume has fewer pesky things like a constitution that might allow them to do something severe easier.The US doesn't even have the stomach for that, France surely wouldn't.
Shouldn't really matter. If you don't allow police to profile the threat but still require them to mitigate it, then they're going to stop people for ANY violation just so they can take a look at themI guess nowadays it really matters to me what the initial stop was over….. driving without a mask? Not following the arrows on the ground at the grocery store?
The US doesn't even have the stomach for that, France surely wouldn't.
NPR is still calling them 'fiery protests', but even the NYT is calling them riots now. When it started, predictably, the propaganda outlets that kneejerk_36 was defending were all calling them 'protests'On my phone, Yahoo #1 headline line is about the supreme court striking down student loans debt relief!
It does matter. You’re telling me police have NEVER done anything wrong? Just because it is a law doesn’t make it right and the outcome going in with them maybe a worse fate than trying to run?Shouldn't really matter. If you don't allow police to profile the threat but still require them to mitigate it, then they're going to stop people for ANY violation just so they can take a look at them
The way to have the best odds of not getting shot is to do what you're told and keep your hands in sight. Like we always say, argue about the nuances in court not at the side of the road and don't expect much leeway if you already have wants and warrants (don't know if the kid did, but also don't know what else might motivate him to try to drive off under those circumstances)
Immaterial if you are stopped for 22 in a 20, you make the police think you're trying to harm or kill them the chances of a bad outcome (for you) have just gone way up
I agree. But to say it is “always” better to comply is not correct.Dude try to run me down (or give me cause to think that's what's going on), results are going to be the same. Decisions have consequences
Maybe make better decisions so they don't end up dead
Equally, if not more so, if you try to run down an armed LEO who is blocking your car because you in fact were breaking a law and can be stopped for same, youI agree. But to say it is “always” better to comply is not correct.
there are consequences to be had by BOTH sides if you stand in front of and block a car for not wearing a seat belt… you’re (as the officer) putting your life at risk over something stupid
Lot's of things to be said in agreement with your comment Bug.Equally, if not more so, if you try to run down an armed LEO who is blocking your car because you in fact were breaking a law and can be stopped for same, youput your life at risklost your life over something stupid
It's a low percentage move
I guess nowadays it really matters to me what the initial stop was over….. driving without a mask? Not following the arrows on the ground at the grocery store?
The article linked in the OP reports it was allegedly that, "He initially failed to stop after the Mercedes AMG he was driving was spotted in a bus lane. Two police officers caught up with the car in a traffic jam."
Also in the article:
"The officer has acknowledged firing a lethal shot, the prosecutor said, telling investigators he wanted to prevent a car chase, fearing he or another person would be hurt after the teenager allegedly committed several traffic violations.
The officer's lawyer, Laurent-Franck Lienard, said his client had asked for the victim's family to forgive him. He said the officer had aimed down towards the driver's leg but was bumped, causing him to shoot towards his chest."
Further details will emerge I suppose.
Probably those LDS cats... They can throw some serious Bball.Those darn Amish are at it again. What a bunch of rascals.
I'm all good and not worried one bit.@Sylvain are you doing OK?
From what I watched, the driver was resisting arrest and was in the process of driving off. The French officer shot him through the front window.