Everything ANTIFA thread

[JAL]

And of course anyone who speaks out against Antifa is an alt-right fascist

The real AntiFa are Communists and Anarchists deeply committed to the ideologies. They're not early 20-somethings bored with playing video games in their parents' basements, and they're not the poor little snowflakes demanding trigger warnings and safe spaces. I posted some of the communist organizations that are underlying them earlier, along with a recruiting video shot in NYC. The "real deal" are out seeking every opportunity to incite extreme violence. They want civil war. It's the required revolution to overthrow and completely destroy the current governments and our entire society.

Regarding their ideology, they're very binary. Anyone who isn't with them and willing to take up arms in their cause is their sworn enemy. In their eyes ambivalence and complacency is as evil, if not more so, than the KKK and neo-Nazi fascists, and counter-revolutionary. They're just like Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia, and Mao Tse-tung's Cultural Revolution in China. If you're not actively part of them or willingly join them in carrying and using arms to prosecute their revolution, they're going to kill you.

John

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

They, the beta and Quinn, the "spokespersons" for Boston Antifa (youtube), went on Gavin McInnes, for crying out loud. I'm reasonably sure it's satire. Boston Antifa has many videos featuring Quinn, an attractive, always scarved, female, who seems to make her cleavage a theme. This is probably the best indicator of satire. Real Antifa chicks dress in black bloc head to toe (feet) in a way that makes them less distinguishable from the males. Well, also, Antifa is very secretive and probably wouldn't have a youtube channel like that.

What's really entertaining about their videos, is the so over the top in-character dialog, yet conveyed in such a way that really challenges Poe's law to the limits. They leave just enough to doubt that part of you thinks it's real. I'm just sad to see the announcement that they won't be posting any more videos. The Arizona Antifa satire channel is funny. But it's more obviously satire. And it's missing something. Something very appealing. How should I say.... Well, nevermind. See for yourself.


NSFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8oRW5JYJ7w

All I heard was cleavage so I had to take a quick look.

 

[JAL]

North Shore Antifa: the REAL Boston AntiFa

The "Boston AntiFa" have seriously pissed off the real AntiFa in Boston, known as the "North Shore Antifa". They are the real deal and very dangerous. Their communist ideology with advocating the violent overthrow of state and federal governments can be seen here on their blog:
https://northshoreantifa.wordpress.com/

And here on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/northshoreantifa/

And more on the Twitter page:
https://twitter.com/bostownantifa?lang=en

You should see a very distinct difference between them and the spoofs (note how the Twitter is spelled).

John

 

[rhino]

I'm slow on the uptake, but I just realized that the people behind the antifa goons are probably using the "fight fascism and racism" bits to recruit and motivate the idiots we see in the videos and at the demonstrations. It's cool to hate "fascists" and "racists," so these people are going to be all for it. They've already been indoctrinated into socialism-statism by the schools and mass media, so they've not going to even notice the realities of communism and totalitariansm that are the foundation of the real organization.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I'm slow on the uptake, but I just realized that the people behind the antifa goons are probably using the "fight fascism and racism" bits to recruit and motivate the idiots we see in the videos and at the demonstrations. It's cool to hate "fascists" and "racists," so these people are going to be all for it. They've already been indoctrinated into socialism-statism by the schools and mass media, so they've not going to even notice the realities of communism and totalitariansm that are the foundation of the real organization.

Preach on Pachyderm!

If you trace this back to its roots, there is a reason why Lenin referred to so many of his loyal followers as 'useful idiots'.

 

[jamil]

I'm slow on the uptake, but I just realized that the people behind the antifa goons are probably using the "fight fascism and racism" bits to recruit and motivate the idiots we see in the videos and at the demonstrations. It's cool to hate "fascists" and "racists," so these people are going to be all for it. They've already been indoctrinated into socialism-statism by the schools and mass media, so they've not going to even notice the realities of communism and totalitariansm that are the foundation of the real organization.

Well. To have useful idiots you first need idiots.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Well. To have useful idiots you first need idiots.

 

[rhino]

Preach on Pachyderm!

If you trace this back to its roots, there is a reason why Lenin referred to so many of his loyal followers as 'useful idiots'.

Indeed. The phrase could not fit a group of people any better than it does antifa.

Well. To have useful idiots you first need idiots.

That's a good start, anyway. Ready-made idiots are more efficient than making them yourself.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[ghitch75]

Antifa throws smoke and projectiles at police at Portland rallies; 7 arrested | Fox News

 

[actaeon277]

Antifa throws smoke and projectiles at police at Portland rallies; 7 arrested | Fox News

Portland Stands Against Hate.
But, they need baseball bats.

 

[ghitch75]

What I learned from the Antifa handbook: For starters, you won?t believe who is defined as a 'fascist' | Fox News

 

[2A_Tom]

Antifa throws smoke and projectiles at police at Portland rallies; 7 arrested | Fox News

[FONT=&quot]Antifa, short for anti-fascist, traces its roots back to militant anti-fascists operating in Nazi Germany during the 1930s. The emergence of these modern groups in the United States — which are comprised predominantly of radical anarchists and focus more on fighting far-right ideology than on encouraging pro-left policies — [/FONT][FONT=&quot]coincided with a rise of white nationalists following the election of Barack Obama in 2008[/FONT][FONT=&quot], analysts said.[/FONT]

Had anyone heard of antifa before last year? Maybe I had my head in the sand.

 

[jamil]

Had anyone heard of antifa before last year? Maybe I had my head in the sand.

I hadn't. I also had no idea how the WS movements had grown either. ****'s getting pretty crazy.

 

[rhino]

Heck, I didn't know I was a fascist until antifa told me so. Their socialist-statist predecessors had already labeled me a racist, but now I'm a fascist too. I feel a curious sense of accomplishment.

This begs the question: formerly, the most grievous social justice sin of all time was racism. Now that fascism is coming on strong, will it be the new racism?

 

[IndyDave1776]

What I learned from the Antifa handbook: For starters, you won?t believe who is defined as a 'fascist' | Fox News

That's OK with me. We can play this game, only I don't use bats or bicycle locks.

 

[JAL]

That's OK with me. We can play this game, only I don't use bats or bicycle locks.

If they want to start the revolution, they've no clue what real urban combat is. Their street gang thuggery with ball bats and bike locks, the urban version of WWI trench clubs, only works against the unarmed and similarly armed. I also choose not use a mace even though I could.

[cue scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark]

[video=youtube;QlesvrKh82M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlesvrKh82M[/video]

Historical note:
WWI trench clubs worked in trenches because they were short and you couldn't maneuver a four foot long bolt action rifle with a foot long bayonet on the end in a trench very easily. Pump action short barrel shotguns worked marvelously well.

John

 

[JAL]

Latest AntiFa Arrests and The Communist Manifesto

If anyone thinks AntiFa are a bunch of early 20's, bored Community College ne'er do wells living in their progressive parents' basements, here are the latest batch of seven arrested over the weekend in Portland. Please scroll down to the names and note the ages. The youngest is 18. The other six are 27 or older, and over half are in their mid-30's or older. The core of AntiFa are committed, hard-core anarchists and communists, completely indoctrinated, and driven by communist and anarchist ideologies. They want to incite revolution. They want civil war. They will stop at nothing to get there. In their eyes, everyone not dedicated to their cause of creating a form of Marxist government is their mortal enemy (Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist; take your pick). What they haven't managed yet, is the use of arms as we currently see with insurgencies in the Middle East. They are taking and adapting recruiting lessons from ISIS. A radical muslim ideology isn't required to use their methods. Any radical ideology can employ it.

Seven people arrested at Portland rally expected in court Monday | KATU

Within the video interview on that web page, a spokeswoman justifies the violence as a necessary act to further their cause. It's straight out of "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels (1848). Violence and terror by armed force are the only means to transform a class society, whether it's a monarchy or a democracy, into a classless communist society. It's proclaimed in the last paragraph:

The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
-- Karl Marx

In November 1848, he reiterates this more strenuously at the end of a Neue Rheinische Zeitung (New Rhinelander Times) newspaper article regarding the failure of the October 1848 Vienna Uprising, which was last in a series of communist uprisings within the Austro-Hungarian Empire before they were finally suppressed:

The purposeless massacres perpetrated since the June and October events, the tedious offering of sacrifices since February and March, the very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.
-- Karl Marx

The Marxist newspaper published in Cologne was very short lived, from 1848-1849, when it was outlawed and banned. Marx was expelled by the Prussians, moving to Paris, only to be expelled from France shortly thereafter. Unable to move to anywhere within any of the German states (it wasn't unified into the German Empire yet), or to Belgium, he moved to London.

Let there be no doubt whatsoever, especially for those that claim this violence is a "fascist" tactic, that the violence of the communists preceded the SA by 80 years. Mussolini and Hitler merely copied, with their respective black shirts and brown shirts, the preexisting communist paramilitary tactics and armed violence. What failed in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the 1840's ultimately succeeded in the second revolution in October 1917 with the communist Bolshevik overthrow the Russian Empire, and the assassination of the entire Romanov family.

John

 

[IndyDave1776]

If anyone thinks AntiFa are a bunch of early 20's, bored Community College ne'er do wells living in their progressive parents' basements, here are the latest batch of seven arrested over the weekend in Portland. Please scroll down to the names and note the ages. The youngest is 18. The other six are 27 or older, and over half are in their mid-30's or older. The core of AntiFa are committed, hard-core anarchists and communists, completely indoctrinated, and driven by communist and anarchist ideologies. They want to incite revolution. They want civil war. They will stop at nothing to get there. In their eyes, everyone not dedicated to their cause of creating a form of Marxist government is their mortal enemy (Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist; take your pick). What they haven't managed yet, is the use of arms as we currently see with insurgencies in the Middle East. They are taking and adapting recruiting lessons from ISIS. A radical muslim ideology isn't required to use their methods. Any radical ideology can employ it.

Seven people arrested at Portland rally expected in court Monday | KATU

Within the video interview on that web page, a spokeswoman justifies the violence as a necessary act to further their cause. It's straight out of "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels (1848). Violence and terror by armed force are the only means to transform a class society, whether it's a monarchy or a democracy, into a classless communist society. It's proclaimed in the last paragraph:


In November 1848, he reiterates this more strenuously at the end of a Neue Rheinische Zeitung (New Rhinelander Times) newspaper article regarding the failure of the October 1848 Vienna Uprising, which was last in a series of communist uprisings within the Austro-Hungarian Empire before they were finally suppressed:
The Marxist newspaper published in Cologne was very short lived, from 1848-1849, when it was outlawed and banned. Marx was expelled by the Prussians, moving to Paris, only to be expelled from France shortly thereafter. Unable to move to anywhere within an of the German states (it wasn't unified yet), or to Belgium, he moved to London.

Let there be no doubt whatsoever, especially for those that claim this violence is a "fascist" tactic, that the violence of the communists preceded the SA by 80 years. Mussolini and Hitler merely copied, with their respective black shirts and brown shirts, the preexisting communist paramilitary tactics and armed violence. What failed in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in the 1840's ultimately succeeded in the second revolution in October 1917 with the communist Bolshevik overthrow the Russian Empire, and the assassination of the entire Romanov family.

John

Very true. Fortunately, it is also true that hard-core zealots can be cut down just as easily as 'useful idiots' on liberty from mom's basement.

 

[ghuns]

Wanna get in BLM and antifa's good graces? Prove you're not a racist white supremacist? I hope they provide you with a certificate or something that saves you from a beatdown...

Being White But Doing it Right

On a side note, poor Hink's father should be charged with child abuse...