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  • KLGalloway

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    I just witnessed and had to react to the most ignorant, foolish, ludicrous,and dangerous behavior by a gun shop employee I have ever heard of and I feel the need to share. If this is not the right place for this thread just let me know.

    I have been to Elmore's Firearms in Greenwood exactly 3 times and I don't expect that count to ever change after what I went through there today. The other two times that I went there were also Saturdays. On my first visit, I just looked around for a short time and then found out they were closing so I bought a couple of small items and left. The second time I went there much earlier and had some pleasant conversations first with an employee named Mike who was very knowledgeable on the AR-15 platform and then the owner who had overheard me mention my USAF service in Taiwan and said that he had also been in the Air Force and stationed in Taiwan, but a year or so before I got there. Later during that visit, I spent a bit of time talking to the Elmores about Taiwan and various gun related topics as well then purchased a couple of small items and left as they were closing up.

    I went there today around 4:20 or so. Checked prices on a few items I was interested in. Didn’t see either of the owners, spoke to Mike again for a bit, and then just did some looking around. Discovered that they were sold out of the 30rd black PMAGs which they had a good price on previously and had their Surefire high capacity magazines way over priced. While looking around there was a dog there who came over to me and I gave him a scratch and pet. The dog came back by me a couple of times for another pet and then about a 10 to 5,there was a loud report and I looked up to see several employees and 3 police officers laughing about the one employee setting off a primer or BP cap or some other noisemaker. I think that it was done to surprise or frighten a female employee who was in the area, but I am not sure why it was set off.

    Since nobody was diving to the floor and I wasn’t impressed by such horse play in any business, but really didn’t think it appropriate in a gun store. I decided to leave. Then the dog came back over to me and he was shaking like he was passing razorblades and pushed up against my legs. I called out trying to find out who the owner of the dog was and an Asia male in his thirties behind the counter said the dog was his. I tried to get the dog to go up to the counter to get the owner to take charge of him, but the dog didn’t want to move for me or a young woman who apparently knew him and the owner dismissed the dog’s seemly outright terror and that pissed me off.

    I started asking who had made the noise and after asking several times while the other employees mostly giggled and the 3 LEOs went quiet, the owner of the dog confessed to having set off the noise. I then took him to task for doing one of the stupidest things I ever saw in a gun shop especially considering the recent incident at Don’s guns where a customer shot a clerk who then shot him. Then he came back asking, “Do you know me? Do you know me?” and I had to reply, “No,I don’t know you except as an *******.” About that time, another employee, bald, white, and looking like an ex-weightlifter came rushing over to the counter and began yelling in my face for me to leave the store and got all excited when I said that the Greenwood officer who had moved over next me could escort me out, but that him failing his arms around and spitting in my face wasn’t impressing me. He kept moving his hands down to his beltline, like he was trying to decide if he wanted to draw on me or show me a badge and finally managed to stutter out that he was a LEO too so I better leave. At that point, I went to leave followed to the door by the Greenwood officer, a tall redheaded young man, and that is the last time that I ever expect I will be in Elmore’s.

    I moved down here after 15 years in Michigan though we are from Southern Indiana originally and I have as yet to find a decent gun store where the clerks don’t try to talk down to the customers or, as in Don’s, are too lazy to get off their stool and walk over to talk to customers and then are dismissive and not particularly knowledgeable when they do get off their butts. Indy Trading Post is looking good and, though it doesn’t have the stock that Elmore’s does, the employees are friendly, knowledgeable, and business-like and the range is the cleanest in town. I patronized two really primo gun stores both with excellent ranges up in Michigan, The Firingline in Westland and Top Guns in Taylor are much better than anything Indy has to offer at this time.

    Please let me know if you folks think that I am overreacting, but when a man mistreats a dog and laughs about it, I get a bit irritated not to mention setting off loud sharp noises in a gun store.
     
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    Dr.Midnight

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    I'm in agreement with you. It's one thing to laugh and cut up with the guys, but my opinion is that a gun shop is not the place for that kind of horseplay. The behavior of the staff at Elmore's you described doesn't surprise me either. Both times I have been there they have been arrogant, rude, and discourteous. Personally, I am not equipped to deal with the world class level of douche-baggery contained in that shop. There are much better places to spend your hard earned money. I hope you find what you're looking for soon.
     

    JetGirl

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    If there was that much extra time for playing around, business must not be so good... which surprises me, given that most places were slammed today.
     

    esrice

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    I'll be honest and say that after reading that I'm still a bit foggy on what exactly happened.

    Without the complete context its tough to say one way or the other.
     

    LPMan59

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    SubicWarrior1988

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    I've shopped at Elmore's once, and it will be the last time and I'll let that be my customer testimony about their establishment.


    I've had nothing less than a stellar experience at Bradis, ever.

    Welcome to INGO
     

    JetGirl

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    I'll be honest and say that after reading that I'm still a bit foggy on what exactly happened.
    Cliffs;
    Dude made friends with a shop dog.
    Owner of dog detonated a primer that scared the bajeebus out of the dog.
    Cop types laughed with counter guys.
    Dude voiced displeasure at noise horseplay and recounted shooting at Don's.
    Dude griped at dog's owner for primer pop... owner was all "Come at me, bro!!" Dude was like, "Step on!"
    Dude gets kicked to the curb by a spit slinger and a Cop follows him out.
    Dude registers at INGO for validation.
     

    loudpedal

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    Ordinarily I would rant about a 1 poster going off about a LGS in a public forum. In this case I commend you for having first done due diligence in taking the shop staff to task for showing stupid and possibly dangerous behavior.

    IMO I accept this as a fair warning to leave this place off of my list of shopping spots.

    Thanks for the warning, and welcome to INGO. :ingo:
     

    KLGalloway

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    That is my complete text as posted. If you mean the whole story, that is the whole story from my point of view. Is there anything I can expand on for you? If you need more than just my view, you will just have to see if anyone else who was there posts.
     

    KLGalloway

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    I've shopped at Elmore's once, and it will be the last time and I'll let that be my customer testimony about their establishment.


    I've had nothing less than a stellar experience at Bradis, ever.

    Welcome to INGO

    SubicWarrior1988 - Thanks for the memory jog, I have shopped Bradis many times since coming to the Indy area. Service has always been good and I have developed a couple of acquaintances among the staff there. BTW, was at Clark in ‘88 and when the volcano went off in ’91.
     
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    SubicWarrior1988

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    SubicWarrior1988 - Thanks for the memory jog, I have shopped Bradis many times since coming to the Indy area. Service has always been goodand I have developed a couple of acquaintances among the staff there. BTW, was atClark in ‘88 and when the volcano went off in ’91.

    Thank you for your service, I visited Angeles City 89 and spent about 6 months in Olongapo on 2 different WESPACS. Bradis will treat you right, when I really want something i make the hour plus drive. I can pm you a youtube movie clip which describes my Elmore's experience if you like. :)
     

    Colt556

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    Cliffs;
    Dude made friends with a shop dog.
    Owner of dog detonated a primer that scared the bajeebus out of the dog.
    Cop types laughed with counter guys.
    Dude voiced displeasure at noise horseplay and recounted shooting at Don's.
    Dude griped at dog's owner for primer pop... owner was all "Come at me, bro!!" Dude was like, "Step on!"
    Dude gets kicked to the curb by a spit slinger and a Cop follows him out.
    Dude registers at INGO for validation.

    I :wwub: You! Tried to Rep but it said I needed to Spread it Around. Didn't think I'd repped you in a while but whateva..... ;)


    PO. I have been to Elmore's a few times and never really had an issue, until the last time! They treated me pretty poorly and made fun of me within my hearing. My LAST time spending any money there for sure.
     

    KLGalloway

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    Cliffs;
    Dude made friends with a shop dog.
    Owner of dog detonated a primer that scared the bajeebus out of the dog.
    Cop types laughed with counter guys.
    Dude voiced displeasure at noise horseplay and recounted shooting at Don's.
    Dude griped at dog's owner for primer pop... owner was all "Come at me, bro!!" Dude was like, "Step on!"
    Dude gets kicked to the curb by a spit slinger and a Cop follows him out.
    Dude registers at INGO for validation.

    You got all but the last one right, I was already registered here, just feeling my way around, and hadn't posted yet.
    Thanks for the Cliff Notes!
     

    SirRealism

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    I moved down here after 15 years in Michigan though we are from Southern Indiana originally and I have as yet to find a decent gun store where the clerks don’t try to talk down to the customers or, as in Don’s, are too lazy to get off their stool and walk over to talk to customers and then are dismissive and not particularly knowledgeable when they do get off their butts.

    SubicWarrior1988 - Thanks for the memory jog, I have shopped Bradis many times since coming to the Indy area. Service has always been good and I have developed a couple of acquaintances among the staff there.

    You've been to Bradis many times, had good service every time, know some of the staff, and yet you can't find a decent gun store? Am I missing something?
     

    KLGalloway

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    You've been to Bradis many times, had good service every time, know some of the staff, and yet you can't find a decent gun store? Am I missing something?

    Distance only. They are far enough away that I have to plan to go there. Indy Trading Post is only about 10 minutes away and has a range. Bradis has excellent prices though Dick's often beats them on 9mm 115gr FMJ practice ammo. Dick's is having a sale on Federal American Eagle for $10.98/50 until later this month.
     
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