KLGalloway
Plinker
I just witnessed and had to react to the most ignorant, foolish, ludicrous,and dangerous behavior by a gun shop employee I have ever heard of and I feel the need to share. If this is not the right place for this thread just let me know.
I have been to Elmore's Firearms in Greenwood exactly 3 times and I don't expect that count to ever change after what I went through there today. The other two times that I went there were also Saturdays. On my first visit, I just looked around for a short time and then found out they were closing so I bought a couple of small items and left. The second time I went there much earlier and had some pleasant conversations first with an employee named Mike who was very knowledgeable on the AR-15 platform and then the owner who had overheard me mention my USAF service in Taiwan and said that he had also been in the Air Force and stationed in Taiwan, but a year or so before I got there. Later during that visit, I spent a bit of time talking to the Elmores about Taiwan and various gun related topics as well then purchased a couple of small items and left as they were closing up.
I went there today around 4:20 or so. Checked prices on a few items I was interested in. Didn’t see either of the owners, spoke to Mike again for a bit, and then just did some looking around. Discovered that they were sold out of the 30rd black PMAGs which they had a good price on previously and had their Surefire high capacity magazines way over priced. While looking around there was a dog there who came over to me and I gave him a scratch and pet. The dog came back by me a couple of times for another pet and then about a 10 to 5,there was a loud report and I looked up to see several employees and 3 police officers laughing about the one employee setting off a primer or BP cap or some other noisemaker. I think that it was done to surprise or frighten a female employee who was in the area, but I am not sure why it was set off.
Since nobody was diving to the floor and I wasn’t impressed by such horse play in any business, but really didn’t think it appropriate in a gun store. I decided to leave. Then the dog came back over to me and he was shaking like he was passing razorblades and pushed up against my legs. I called out trying to find out who the owner of the dog was and an Asia male in his thirties behind the counter said the dog was his. I tried to get the dog to go up to the counter to get the owner to take charge of him, but the dog didn’t want to move for me or a young woman who apparently knew him and the owner dismissed the dog’s seemly outright terror and that pissed me off.
I started asking who had made the noise and after asking several times while the other employees mostly giggled and the 3 LEOs went quiet, the owner of the dog confessed to having set off the noise. I then took him to task for doing one of the stupidest things I ever saw in a gun shop especially considering the recent incident at Don’s guns where a customer shot a clerk who then shot him. Then he came back asking, “Do you know me? Do you know me?” and I had to reply, “No,I don’t know you except as an *******.” About that time, another employee, bald, white, and looking like an ex-weightlifter came rushing over to the counter and began yelling in my face for me to leave the store and got all excited when I said that the Greenwood officer who had moved over next me could escort me out, but that him failing his arms around and spitting in my face wasn’t impressing me. He kept moving his hands down to his beltline, like he was trying to decide if he wanted to draw on me or show me a badge and finally managed to stutter out that he was a LEO too so I better leave. At that point, I went to leave followed to the door by the Greenwood officer, a tall redheaded young man, and that is the last time that I ever expect I will be in Elmore’s.
I moved down here after 15 years in Michigan though we are from Southern Indiana originally and I have as yet to find a decent gun store where the clerks don’t try to talk down to the customers or, as in Don’s, are too lazy to get off their stool and walk over to talk to customers and then are dismissive and not particularly knowledgeable when they do get off their butts. Indy Trading Post is looking good and, though it doesn’t have the stock that Elmore’s does, the employees are friendly, knowledgeable, and business-like and the range is the cleanest in town. I patronized two really primo gun stores both with excellent ranges up in Michigan, The Firingline in Westland and Top Guns in Taylor are much better than anything Indy has to offer at this time.
Please let me know if you folks think that I am overreacting, but when a man mistreats a dog and laughs about it, I get a bit irritated not to mention setting off loud sharp noises in a gun store.
I have been to Elmore's Firearms in Greenwood exactly 3 times and I don't expect that count to ever change after what I went through there today. The other two times that I went there were also Saturdays. On my first visit, I just looked around for a short time and then found out they were closing so I bought a couple of small items and left. The second time I went there much earlier and had some pleasant conversations first with an employee named Mike who was very knowledgeable on the AR-15 platform and then the owner who had overheard me mention my USAF service in Taiwan and said that he had also been in the Air Force and stationed in Taiwan, but a year or so before I got there. Later during that visit, I spent a bit of time talking to the Elmores about Taiwan and various gun related topics as well then purchased a couple of small items and left as they were closing up.
I went there today around 4:20 or so. Checked prices on a few items I was interested in. Didn’t see either of the owners, spoke to Mike again for a bit, and then just did some looking around. Discovered that they were sold out of the 30rd black PMAGs which they had a good price on previously and had their Surefire high capacity magazines way over priced. While looking around there was a dog there who came over to me and I gave him a scratch and pet. The dog came back by me a couple of times for another pet and then about a 10 to 5,there was a loud report and I looked up to see several employees and 3 police officers laughing about the one employee setting off a primer or BP cap or some other noisemaker. I think that it was done to surprise or frighten a female employee who was in the area, but I am not sure why it was set off.
Since nobody was diving to the floor and I wasn’t impressed by such horse play in any business, but really didn’t think it appropriate in a gun store. I decided to leave. Then the dog came back over to me and he was shaking like he was passing razorblades and pushed up against my legs. I called out trying to find out who the owner of the dog was and an Asia male in his thirties behind the counter said the dog was his. I tried to get the dog to go up to the counter to get the owner to take charge of him, but the dog didn’t want to move for me or a young woman who apparently knew him and the owner dismissed the dog’s seemly outright terror and that pissed me off.
I started asking who had made the noise and after asking several times while the other employees mostly giggled and the 3 LEOs went quiet, the owner of the dog confessed to having set off the noise. I then took him to task for doing one of the stupidest things I ever saw in a gun shop especially considering the recent incident at Don’s guns where a customer shot a clerk who then shot him. Then he came back asking, “Do you know me? Do you know me?” and I had to reply, “No,I don’t know you except as an *******.” About that time, another employee, bald, white, and looking like an ex-weightlifter came rushing over to the counter and began yelling in my face for me to leave the store and got all excited when I said that the Greenwood officer who had moved over next me could escort me out, but that him failing his arms around and spitting in my face wasn’t impressing me. He kept moving his hands down to his beltline, like he was trying to decide if he wanted to draw on me or show me a badge and finally managed to stutter out that he was a LEO too so I better leave. At that point, I went to leave followed to the door by the Greenwood officer, a tall redheaded young man, and that is the last time that I ever expect I will be in Elmore’s.
I moved down here after 15 years in Michigan though we are from Southern Indiana originally and I have as yet to find a decent gun store where the clerks don’t try to talk down to the customers or, as in Don’s, are too lazy to get off their stool and walk over to talk to customers and then are dismissive and not particularly knowledgeable when they do get off their butts. Indy Trading Post is looking good and, though it doesn’t have the stock that Elmore’s does, the employees are friendly, knowledgeable, and business-like and the range is the cleanest in town. I patronized two really primo gun stores both with excellent ranges up in Michigan, The Firingline in Westland and Top Guns in Taylor are much better than anything Indy has to offer at this time.
Please let me know if you folks think that I am overreacting, but when a man mistreats a dog and laughs about it, I get a bit irritated not to mention setting off loud sharp noises in a gun store.
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