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    Alpo

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    Two drug addicts are sharing a needle....a friend tells them that is a good way to get AIDS. Their response: We're OK. We're both wearing condoms.

    Probably an oblique analogy to the mask issue....but not if you think about it.
     

    chipbennett

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    Definitely. When I say mask I am referring to a 95% mask or better, such as the 3M 8200 or 8210 which used to be very available and very commonly used for this purpose. Wearing a rag is not a mask, it is just a placebo on someone's face. I will try to put an adjective in front of mask from now on.

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    After using N95 masks for work most of my life and being a avid watcher of people and their behaviors in public plus frequenting Illinois where masks are mandatory I’d say an overwhelming majority of the wearers are self contaminating. They fiddle with it constantly, when the mask comes off they are in direct contact with the front and when they are outside, the mask comes off, it goes directly in a pocket or purse.

    Darwin approves. :)

    Around here I see many people that know how to use a 95% protective mask and know why they are wearing it in the first place.
    (I think I'll start calling them respirators to avoid people thinking of Lone Ranger masks or something equally useless)

    I think part of the problem here is terminology. There is a meaningful difference between a mask and a respirator.

    https://ohsonline.com/articles/2014/05/01/comparison-respiratory.aspx

    https://www.lhsfna.org/index.cfm/li...etween-dust-masks-n95s-and-other-respirators/

    For a respirator to provide protection, it must form a tight seal around the mouth and nose. Facial hair doesn’t allow a tight fit, so wearers should be clean-shaven.

    https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/pdfs/UnderstandDifferenceInfographic-508.pdf

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/difference-between-face-mask-respirator-why-workers-kapil-gupta/

    https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/prevention/respiratory_protection.html

    Health care workers routinely use surgical masks as part of their personal protective equipment. However, surgical masks are not respirators and are not certified as such. They do not protect the wearer from inhaling small particles that can remain airborne for long periods of time. Surgical masks are effective barriers for retaining large droplets which can be released from the wearer through talking, coughing, or sneezing. Surgical masks are useful in many patient care areas. In fact, they may reduce wound site contamination during surgical or dental procedures. But surgical masks cannot be used as a protection from many hazardous airborne materials. The filter material of surgical masks does not retain or filter out submicron particles. In addition surgical masks are not designed to eliminate air leakage around the edges.
     

    IndyBeerman

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    Anyone with two brain cells would not put a lit match next to a Kleenex on their face.

    Just sayin....

    It has been proven time and time again over the course of human existence that there will be that minute part of the population whose brain cells only work at a level to maintain their existence that will fail to grasp that concept and should be graced with either having to carry a sign saying "You can't fix stupid, that's me" or "Stay 50 feet away, I do unexplained idiotic things."
     

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    It has been proven time and time again over the course of human existence that there will be that minute part of the population whose brain cells only work at a level to maintain their existence that will fail to grasp that concept and should be graced with either having to carry a sign saying "You can't fix stupid, that's me" or "Stay 50 feet away, I do unexplained idiotic things."

    From time to time, I have fallen into that segment of the population. It should be noted that it was after consuming copious amounts of alcohol.
     

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    Thought I would post my daily regimen in case anyone is interested. It was developed from advice and links found here. Hoosierdoc, If you could look this over that would be great, but I think I’m on pretty safe ground here:

    Multivitamin (one daily):

    Rainbow Light® Men’s One... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007YCC7S?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

    Vitamin C supplement (one every 12 hours):

    Super Bio C - Buffered 500 mg -... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001VVFGG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

    Vitamin D3 + K2 supplement (one daily):

    Solaray Vitamin D3 + K2 | D & K... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FNWPNC3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

    N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine supplement (one daily):

    Solaray NAC N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0037Z2LU2?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

    Zinc supplement (one daily):

    Solaray Optizinc Supplement, 30 mg, 60 Count https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005P0XHXC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_TBaZEbEX0WJ09

    Quercetin supplement (one daily):

    Quercetin 500mg Solaray 90 Caps (Pack of 2) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LBYXZUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QDaZEbF5JRK2S
     

    IndyBeerman

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    I know one thing for sure. If you have ever, ever sanded drywall you will figure out how to wear a mask correctly! That drywall dust will get into anything, makes the covid look like an amateur!

    4 Roger on that. even with a dedicated mesh drywall dust collector to a shop vac ran through a water bucket reservoir to catch the dust.

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    I know this is a silly idea, but if you are worried about other's spit on you...

    ...then just maybe you should distance yourself from them?

    Maybe even consider whether you should be out among "the filthy" in the first place?

    Who's worried? Just stating facts.
     

    foszoe

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    For those who say they haven't seen the insanity of the mask cult yet:

    [video=youtube;F6UHtBpVFqk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6UHtBpVFqk[/video]
    Language warning.

    Need to better than that. Those people are nothing like the people I see day to day in Indiana. I doubt they're nuts about JUST masks.
     

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    Health care workers routinely use surgical masks as part of their personal protective equipment. However, surgical masks are not respirators and are not certified as such. They do not protect the wearer from inhaling small particles that can remain airborne for long periods of time. Surgical masks are effective barriers for retaining large droplets which can be released from the wearer through talking, coughing, or sneezing. Surgical masks are useful in many patient care areas. In fact, they may reduce wound site contamination during surgical or dental procedures. But surgical masks cannot be used as a protection from many hazardous airborne materials. The filter material of surgical masks does not retain or filter out submicron particles. In addition surgical masks are not designed to eliminate air leakage around the edges.


    That isn't the whole story either. There is another class of mask that is designed for surgery but is an N95 [strike]mask[/strike] respirator. So don't let the word surgery scare you until you know for sure. A common example around here is the 3M Aura 1870 or the 3M 1860. It is a surgical respirator which means it has resistance to high pressure fluid streams as well as being an effective filter for aerosols. It will resist penetration by an artery blood spurt much better than the 3M 8210 respirator. That resistance is part of it being ASTM Test Method F1862 compliant.

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    ArcadiaGP

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    Imagine being the person that typed this tweet out, then hit "send". I'd feel such shame I'd seppuku all over my keyboard

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1264980497849036801

    CNN said:
    The novel coronavirus seems to be more deadly for men. But in many other ways, women are bearing the brunt of this pandemic.

    For instance, the majority of health workers are women, yet they get paid 28% less on average than men, according to the WHO.

    Data so far is showing that the economic consequences of the coronavirus pandemic are harsher for women.

    One example: 55% of the Americans who have lost their jobs in March and April were women, according to an analysis by the Economic Policy Institute.
     

    chipbennett

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    That isn't the whole story either. There is another class of mask that is designed for surgery but is an N95 [strike]mask[/strike] respirator. So don't let the word surgery scare you until you know for sure. A common example around here is the 3M Aura 1870 or the 3M 1860. It is a surgical respirator which means it has resistance to high pressure fluid streams as well as being an effective filter for aerosols. It will resist penetration by an artery blood spurt much better than the 3M 8210 respirator. That resistance is part of it being ASTM Test Method F1862 compliant.

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    And as with any respirator, effectiveness depends on providing/maintaining a tight seal around the edges.

    The tight fit around the edges (which forces airflow through the barrier) is primarily what distinguishes a respirator from a mask.
     
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