Coronavirus II

[tbhausen]

My doctor’s office tells me they’re trying to see the well people in the morning and the sick people in the afternoon… That’s a hard pass from me.

I'm on the phone at this exact moment to cancel my regular check up with my Doc that was scheduled for Friday. Hell no!

Also... I've been taking my hair down to 1/8" with clippers for 15 years now. Best hair cut I've ever had and the price is right!

 

[ziggy]

Scott Lively is not the only one thinking this way...
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483758-coronavirus-constitutional-rights-government/

 

[maxwelhse]

My doctor’s office tells me they’re trying to see the well people in the morning and the sick people in the afternoon… That’s a hard pass from me.

THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO TALK ME INTO KEEPING MY APPOINTMENT!!! WTF?!?!

"They're not seeing respiratory cases in that building." Yeah right... Ever been to doc's office where nobody was coughing, sniffling, or exhibiting other flu-like symptoms? Me neither.

Anyhow... They must not be too concerned about keeping medical staff available for emergency care either. SMH.

 

[BugI02]

But in an economy that is increasingly serviced based, you need people to serve.

Or perhaps it's time to rethink whether we want a service economy or whether it is viable if it is so fragile

 

[BugI02]

This is kind of like the argument I’ve heard about waging war. Yeah, a 20-something year, low grade war results in fewer deaths than a massive, all-in, decisive wr would. But which is better in the long run?

Only your future self knows for sure

 

[T.Lex]

Scott Lively is not the only one thinking this way...
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483758-coronavirus-constitutional-rights-government/

An American publishing in RT?

I'm really not much on labeling 1A statements as traitorous, but publishing on RT gets me leaning in that direction.

That this guy was Alex Jones's lawyer makes the substance even a bit more difficult to take seriously.

He could be right.

But, if he came into my office and told me the grass was green outside, I'd still want to go out and check for myself.

 

[Trigger Time]

THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO TALK ME INTO KEEPING MY APPOINTMENT!!! WTF?!?!

"They're not seeing respiratory cases in that building." Yeah right... Ever been to doc's office where nobody was coughing, sniffling, or exhibiting other flu-like symptoms? Me neither.

Anyhow... They must not be too concerned about keeping medical staff available for emergency care either. SMH.

Yeah what about all the people they see who didn't know they had it yet but are breathing it all over the office? Hard pass.

 

[maxwelhse]

Yeah what about all the people they see who didn't know they had it yet but are breathing it all over the office? Hard pass.

The shocking part is how hard I had to work to get them to cancel it, and then upon rescheduling (out to May) she asks me a bunch of questions about whether or not I'm exhibiting corona symptoms or if I'm high risk (have I traveled, etc).

Which way is it, lady? Is it a big deal or is it not a big deal?

Hard pass, indeed.

 

[BugI02]

Well, I'll politely disagree with you on a limited basis.

We aren't getting (at least I haven't found) the numbers on hospitalizations/critical care. With that, we could better triangulate on overall infections and deaths, and do better modeling. In the absence of that, armed only with the 2 dimensional numbers they're giving us (infections and deaths), we kinda have to make due.

And again, it is worth mentioning that I have no illusion about the numbers being accurate. It is just the numbers that we are being provided.

In the 'maybe a silver lining' dept.; perhaps the example of possibly severe, economically damaging over-reaction to innaccurate models that can't make testable predictions that we're living will be the death knell for green new deal/climate action

 

[nonobaddog]

In the 'maybe a silver lining' dept.; perhaps the example of possibly severe, economically damaging over-reaction to innaccurate models that can't make testable predictions that we're living will be the death knell for green new deal/climate action

If only that were true. But I seriously doubt it.

 

[HoughMade]

Or perhaps it's time to rethink whether we want a service economy or whether it is viable if it is so fragile

I don't disagree, but it's not like a country just decides to change and it happens.

 

[HoughMade]

An American publishing in RT?

I'm really not much on labeling 1A statements as traitorous, but publishing on RT gets me leaning in that direction.

That this guy was Alex Jones's lawyer makes the substance even a bit more difficult to take seriously.

He could be right.

But, if he came into my office and told me the grass was green outside, I'd still want to go out and check for myself.

It's not like the Russians would want to cause anger, confusion and distrust or anything.

 

[mmpsteve]

HVAC, right?

According to Executive Order 20-08, para. 14(j) [thanks to T.Lex for the citation format], HVAC is a "critical trade" and, therefore, an "essential business".

Of course, the classification doesn't mean any business HAS to still operate.

And that is the conundrum for many small businesses right now, including myself. Legally, I can still operate, and we need to operate to survive as a company, for our employees and clients. But the concept of slowing the spread is very compelling. Personally, I can continue to bring in revenue even with a locked door, but many cannot. It's a difficult choice.

THEY ACTUALLY TRIED TO TALK ME INTO KEEPING MY APPOINTMENT!!! WTF?!?!

"They're not seeing respiratory cases in that building." Yeah right... Ever been to doc's office where nobody was coughing, sniffling, or exhibiting other flu-like symptoms? Me neither.

Anyhow... They must not be too concerned about keeping medical staff available for emergency care either. SMH.

In terms of them wanting to continue seeing patients, see my green words above. Companies have a survival instinct just like individuals, and it's just as important to peoples' lives, long-term. Also, individual medical practices are not the same as hospitals, in particular, ICU units, as HoosierDoc's situation demonstrates. I'm not discounting what you're saying - these are difficult choices for all of us right now.

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[Alpo]

A guy texted me to ask if I had ammo. Got my number from from a google listing. I said I shut down in december and retired. He doesn't have any at all.....

...so I checked and found I had a box of Barnes Tac-xpd in his caliber and said I'd leave it on the front porch and he could slip the money under the matt.

....

....I kinda feel like a drug dealer......

 

[ditcherman]

Or perhaps it's time to rethink whether we want a service economy or whether it is viable if it is so fragile

Now we’re talking. Let’s have that conversation.
It seems to me that a lot of the people that were hard to convince that this is a thing but are now on the same page (or at least reading the same book) are the same people that would really like for America to be responsible again, come back from the edge of collapse, however you want to word it.

This is an opportunity to educate everyone that thinks govt is the answer, and more govt is more answers, that they are mistaken. If we could get in front of this with messaging to the dependent class somehow, it could be a great opportunity.

 

[nonobaddog]

Or this could lead to more dependence on the gubmint than ever...

 

[maxwelhse]

In terms of them wanting to continue seeing patients, see my green words above. Companies have a survival instinct just like individuals, and it's just as important to peoples' lives, long-term. Also, individual medical practices are not the same as hospitals, in particular, ICU units, as HoosierDoc's situation demonstrates. I'm not discounting what you're saying - these are difficult choices for all of us right now.

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I get your point, but my doctor is part of the Parkview care network and is located on the Parkview North campus in Fort Wayne. We're not talking about a small practice. It's a multi-billion dollar organization.

Plus my Doc already cancelled this appointment once before to go to Haiti a few weeks ago and provide care down there. I assume that means emergency treatment too.

I really am aghast that they don't want otherwise healthy people to just stay home right now. Crazy.

 

[printcraft]

Just got an email that Hi-Point is shutting down ... the hoods will be forced to use sticks if this keeps up.

 

[mmpsteve]

In the 'maybe a silver lining' dept.; perhaps the example of possibly severe, economically damaging over-reaction to innaccurate models that can't make testable predictions that we're living will be the death knell for green new deal/climate action

Except the Dems right now are trying to use this "opportunity" to prop up solar and wind energy in the Corona-Aid bill. ****ing dirty bastaads - I hope they all rot in hell.

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[maxwelhse]

I don't disagree, but it's not like a country just decides to change and it happens.

If you mean it's a long road ahead, I agree, but the country can absolutely decide to do this in the blink of an eye and elect politicians to actually do it. I'm really hope that's what we see in November and I'm really hoping the .gov keeps their word for once and gets us off the Chinese teat.