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  • foszoe

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    Since the Constitution doesn't specifically define the definition, that opens it up to interpretation. All I was suggesting is that Bug's definition is not exactly absolute because nowhere has it been established as such.
    Is The standard that the constitution be self defining? that seems to be a change from the norm.

    The constitution didn't really define militia either.

    What are the roles of historical context and interpretation? The federalist papers? The writings of the chur er founding fathers?
     

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    Is The standard that the constitution be self defining? that seems to be a change from the norm.

    The constitution didn't really define militia either.

    What are the roles of historical context and interpretation? The federalist papers? The writings of the chur er founding fathers?
    Where did I say the Constitution standard should be self-defining? As a matter of fact, I agreed that it is not in many instances and therefore makes it subject to interpretation which indeed is usually derived from historical context for insight.
     

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    Where did I say the Constitution standard should be self-defining? As a matter of fact, I agreed that it is not in many instances and therefore makes it subject to interpretation which is usually derived from historical context for insight.
    Where did I say that you said that?

    I would think there is plenty of precedent to define the term.
     

    jamil

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    The Constitution says no such thing.

    Again, there is only "natural born citizen" and "naturalized citizen". There are no other categories of citizenship.
    Oh no. There's an extra special category that applies to people I don't want to be elected to office. It's found in the constitution in the same place that says the President can do whatever zhe wants.
     

    Ingomike

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    The only definitive post on the president and NBC if it is undecided
    Oh no. There's an extra special category that applies to people I don't want to be elected to office. It's found in the constitution in the same place that says the President can do whatever zhe wants.
    No it is not, I know where the clause says the president can do whatever he wants and it is not there...
     

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    With anchor babies, I don’t see the issue with their birth making them citizens. The issue lies with the incorrect assumption that if the baby stays that the parents get to also stay. It is clear to me that the child can stay alone and be placed in foster care and the parents are returned to their legal country or both the child and parents are returned to their legal country at their choice and once the child turn 18 he/she may return to the US by themselves.
     

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    Is The standard that the constitution be self defining? that seems to be a change from the norm.

    The constitution didn't really define militia either.

    What are the roles of historical context and interpretation? The federalist papers? The writings of the chur er founding fathers?
    Is it not possible that some words used are not defined because the founding fathers did not foresee a time when 'what the definition of 'is' is'
    would ever be in doubt?


    Mad because it wasn't the church you want?
     

    foszoe

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    Is it not possible that some words used are not defined because the founding fathers did not foresee a time when 'what the definition of 'is' is'
    would ever be in doubt?


    Mad because it wasn't the church you want?
    Possible but not proven in this specific instance. Same could be said of militia.

    I want no church only Christ. You seem to have an issue with that
     

    foszoe

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    I'm not even sure what the conversation is anymore.
    That makes 2 of us. For some reason Bug likes to drag my faith into random conversations over the years. Never have figured out why. I don't mind it but I don't understand what he's getting at.
     
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