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  • Alpo

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    I don't agree with reparations there either, but at least there is a better case for that. It was a specific action ordered by the President himself, rather than just being a long term practice or policy that began to run out of favor as morality matured. Obviously people were hurt by that in many ways as a result of that action. And obviously the loss of wealth certainly impacted the children thereafter, but how do you even calculate that loss collectively? Japanese Americans should have been able to sue the government for damages, case by case, but America was what it was then. Just to give families of Japanese Americans some arbitrary sum, today (or at least in Reagan's day) I'm just not inclined to support that. It's not reciprocally fair.

    There were reparations in 1948(?) under Truman. Some $37 million was paid out against claims. Estimates of real losses in historic dollars was well over $1 billion.
     

    BugI02

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    As much as saying Japanese sons and daughters of dead interned Japanese deserve no reparations? If so I'm ok with having retarded thoughts.

    Should we attempt to strong-arm the Japanese to pay reparations to the Chinese and Koreans? Where does it all stop? How did forcing the Germans to pay reparations for The One work out?
     

    buckwacker

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    Let's not.


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    Why not?
     

    Alpo

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    Completely ignorant fact free assertion. You could simply go read the definition of race. Just a hint, you seem to be conflating race with nationality. Another hint, they are not the same.

    Your sentence was grammatically non-specific. So, if you wish to assert ignorance, please stop linking two dissimilar nouns and we'll then have a more definitive discussion.

    As to "races", haplogroups weren't scientifically understood in the 1940's where 6 million+ human beings were selected for execution. But there were criteria to determine German racial purity.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    There were reparations in 1948(?) under Truman. Some $37 million was paid out against claims. Estimates of real losses in historic dollars was well over $1 billion.

    That is reparations paid to people that were affected at that current time.
    What in these current times has happened to people, to make them believe that they are owed reparations?
     

    BugI02

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    This is utterly wrong headed and ahistorical.

    There's a massive difference between "let's check into radical clerics with direct ties to the taliban" and "let's throw all the ethnically Japanese people on the west coast into prison."

    If there was some expat club with a "Hirohito is the best" club, sure maybe keep an eye on them. Different thing.

    *Saying this as a big time FDR fan, too.

    It seems funny that folks will support the government 'interring' just about everybody (and making many of them poor, by the way) for WuVid, because they lacked the means to determine just the people that should be 'interred' even with modern technology

    But those same folks admit no understanding of the existential predicament of government, using technology of 79 years ago and having been victim of a dastardly sneak attack, to tell potential spies for the empire from ordinary citizens
     

    larcat

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    If you're not talking in the general case, could you point be at posts I've made claiming that inre: Covid? I've made one post about that on this forum IIRC, and it wasn't particularly supportive of the response the government has had, generally.

    It seems funny that folks will support the government 'interring' just about everybody (and making many of them poor, by the way) for WuVid, because they lacked the means to determine just the people that should be 'interred' even with modern technology

    But those same folks admit no understanding of the existential predicament of government, using technology of 79 years ago and having been victim of a dastardly sneak attack, to tell potential spies for the empire from ordinary citizens
     

    Hohn

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    It seems funny that folks will support the government 'interring' just about everybody (and making many of them poor, by the way) for WuVid, because they lacked the means to determine just the people that should be 'interred' even with modern technology

    But those same folks admit no understanding of the existential predicament of government, using technology of 79 years ago and having been victim of a dastardly sneak attack, to tell potential spies for the empire from ordinary citizens

    Not to mention the actual evidence of Japanese Residents of the USA Providing material aid and comfort.
     

    larcat

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    I'm about done arguing Japanese internment in this thread.

    Last I'll say about it is -- I don't think supporting policy that locks people up because people that look like them or share an ethnic background did something illegal is a great idea.

    Surprised people are this eager to defend FDR.

    Not to mention the actual evidence of Japanese Residents of the USA Providing material aid and comfort.
     

    Alpo

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    Not to mention the actual evidence of Japanese Residents of the USA Providing material aid and comfort.

    General allegations without data and link are gratuitous. Under that rationale, we should have interred 3.5 million Muslims after 9-11.

    If you are thinking of the Tule Lake camp, there is much more to the story as P Harvey would say.
     
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