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  • actaeon277

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    Yup. This pisses me off.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    Pardon me Bill, sir, but this claim is utter and complete bull****. Before resorting to using justifiable deadly force in self-defense, Rittenhouse attempted at least three times to flee engagement/altercation. He was chased all three times. He was never the initial aggressor. He did not "seek out" anything.

    I welcome you to prove any evidence to the contrary.

    Thanks for asking, Chip. I said what I said because he went there, armed, knowing the likelihood was high that he would need the gun. Whatever other purposes he had did not require a rifle.
    Cleaning graffiti does not require a rifle.
    Providing medical aid, in and of itself, does not require a rifle. In my time on the ambulance, there were some times I wished I could carry, but it was pointed out to me that if I needed the gun, I didn’t need to be there; that you protect yourself first (by absence) because there is nothing more useless than a dead medic; that the very first question is always always always, “Is the scene secure?” If the answer is no, you don’t belong there.

    i have wondered but not asked who the hell asks a 17yr old kid to provide security for his car lot.... does the owner not sell enough cars to hire a real, bonded security agency??

    All of this, to me says either that he was looking for a fight or knew the chance was high that one would find him.

    To me, that leads to one conclusion: Stay the F away, especially if you’re going there on your own. Obv if you’re paid EMS, that is not a valid option.

    :twocents:

    Blessings,
    Bill
     

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    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/20...use-after-gofundme-shuts-down-his-fundraiser/
    Attorney Lin Wood to Defend Kyle Rittenhouse After GoFundMe Shuts Down His Fundraiser


    https://www.theepochtimes.com/gofun...hooting-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse_3478549.html
    GoFundMe Removes Fundraisers for Shooting Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse


    https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...count-for-kyle-rittenhouse-shut-down.7025213/
    BREAKING: GoFundMe account for Kyle Rittenhouse shut down.



    Yet...

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/gofu...t-explodes-mother-speaks-out-on-death-penalty
    A GoFundMe account set up for the parents of slain 5-year-old North Carolina boy Cannon Hinnant raised more than $750,000 as of Monday morning, only five days after the Cannon’s grandmother set up the account.


    https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/gofundme-for-5-year-old-cannon-hinnant-raises-700k/
    GoFundMe for Cannon Hinnant, boy fatally shot in head by neighbor, raises $700K
     

    Clay Pigeon

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    Thanks for asking, Chip. I said what I said because he went there, armed, knowing the likelihood was high that he would need the gun. Whatever other purposes he had did not require a rifle.
    Cleaning graffiti does not require a rifle.
    Providing medical aid, in and of itself, does not require a rifle. In my time on the ambulance, there were some times I wished I could carry, but it was pointed out to me that if I needed the gun, I didn’t need to be there; that you protect yourself first (by absence) because there is nothing more useless than a dead medic; that the very first question is always always always, “Is the scene secure?” If the answer is no, you don’t belong there.

    i have wondered but not asked who the hell asks a 17yr old kid to provide security for his car lot.... does the owner not sell enough cars to hire a real, bonded security agency??

    All of this, to me says either that he was looking for a fight or knew the chance was high that one would find him.

    To me, that leads to one conclusion: Stay the F away, especially if you’re going there on your own. Obv if you’re paid EMS, that is not a valid option.

    :twocents:

    Blessings,
    Bill

    How does one know when to have a gun? It would be super convenient to know.
     

    Kdf101

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    How does one know when to have a gun? It would be super convenient to know.

    ^^This.

    By the definition BOR is using, all concealed carriers would be arrested because they had a gun and must have been looking for trouble. BS. This isn’t some town that is a cross country trip for him, something like 17ish miles. Maybe he had friends, family, or interests there. Maybe he didn’t, BF deal. This is still a free country, for now. We can’t get to used to ceding the town to bad actors. Going there prepared for trouble, if it came, and looking for a fight are two very different things. So far, I have seen nothing that would indicate to me that he was looking for trouble, or stated anything.
     

    Bill of Rights

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    How does one know when to have a gun? It would be super convenient to know.

    I carry a gun and I do things in my life. The default is to carry, and I need a good reason not to do so, such as, “carrying a gun there is a felony”.

    What I do not do is carry a gun “to” places. That is to say, I don’t decide to go somewhere, followed by the specific thought, “Better take my gun.” If I’m thinking that, I need to not go to that place.

    I can’t tell you how to decide when you need a gun. I can only tell you how I decide which places I go and which I do not.

    Hope that helps.

    Blessings,
    Bill
     

    dusty88

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    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/20...use-after-gofundme-shuts-down-his-fundraiser/
    Attorney Lin Wood to Defend Kyle Rittenhouse After GoFundMe Shuts Down His Fundraiser


    https://www.theepochtimes.com/gofun...hooting-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse_3478549.html
    GoFundMe Removes Fundraisers for Shooting Suspect Kyle Rittenhouse


    https://www.snipershide.com/shootin...count-for-kyle-rittenhouse-shut-down.7025213/
    BREAKING: GoFundMe account for Kyle Rittenhouse shut down.



    Yet...

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/gofu...t-explodes-mother-speaks-out-on-death-penalty
    A GoFundMe account set up for the parents of slain 5-year-old North Carolina boy Cannon Hinnant raised more than $750,000 as of Monday morning, only five days after the Cannon’s grandmother set up the account.


    https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/gofundme-for-5-year-old-cannon-hinnant-raises-700k/
    GoFundMe for Cannon Hinnant, boy fatally shot in head by neighbor, raises $700K

    Some conservative websites say the alleged shooter of the 5 yr old boy has a GoFundMe. Other sites say that's fake news. :dunno:
     
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