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Beer Virus VI-The Final Episode..... Hopefully
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More died by how they treated covid than the covid itself I believe. Once intubated your chance of ever waking dropped to near zero if you where over 30. I think quite a few "covid" deaths resulted from the treatment protocol not the disease itself(see those who got the rare ecmo machine vs tubed rates of death) or who managed to avoid getting tubed. They had much higher survival rates.
Dump in remdesivir which has now been taken off the CDC treatment page...likely because it was killing people. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9648220/
Paxlovid has a 1 in 5 patient adverse event reported and is now the go to antiviral.
You know of any covid deaths of healthy people(not obese,diabetic, or had 6 bypasses already)? Especially ones that did not get ventilated.
I asked because I read quite awhile ago a nurse stating that ventilating people was a death sentence at her hospital to the point she quit. She is not alone in saying this. It was her hospitals policy to vent everyone admitted for covid period.
Outcomes of mechanically ventilated patients with COVID-19 associated respiratory failure
The outcomes of patients requiring invasive mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 remain poorly defined. We sought to determine clinical characteristics and outcomes of patients with COVID-19 managed with invasive mechanical ventilation in an appropriately ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Outcomes of mechanically ventilated patients with COVID-19 associated respiratory failure
The outcomes of patients requiring invasive mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 remain poorly defined. We sought to determine clinical characteristics and outcomes of patients with COVID-19 managed with invasive mechanical ventilation in an appropriately ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
mortality rates range from 50–97% in those requiring mechanical ventilation.
ICU and ventilator mortality among critically ill adults with COVID-19
We report preliminary data from a cohort of adults admitted to COVID-designated intensive care units from March 6 through April 17, 2020 across an academic healthcare system. Among 217 critically ill patients, mortality for those who required mechanical ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
A recently published report from New York also found high mortality of 88.1% among those who required mechanical ventilation.4
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Or we can aspire to beat them bloody with their own stick
You can probably guess which approach I favor
All of this is all true, also. I've argued for much of it, previously. But it really has nothing to do with my point.More died by how they treated covid than the covid itself I believe. Once intubated your chance of ever waking dropped to near zero if you where over 30. I think quite a few "covid" deaths resulted from the treatment protocol not the disease itself(see those who got the rare ecmo machine vs tubed rates of death) or who managed to avoid getting tubed. They had much higher survival rates.
Dump in remdesivir which has now been taken off the CDC treatment page...likely because it was killing people. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9648220/
Paxlovid has a 1 in 5 patient adverse event reported and is now the go to antiviral.
You know of any covid deaths of healthy people(not obese,diabetic, or had 6 bypasses already)? Especially ones that did not get ventilated.
I asked because I read quite awhile ago a nurse stating that ventilating people was a death sentence at her hospital to the point she quit. She is not alone in saying this. It was her hospitals policy to vent everyone admitted for covid period.
Outcomes of mechanically ventilated patients with COVID-19 associated respiratory failure
The outcomes of patients requiring invasive mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 remain poorly defined. We sought to determine clinical characteristics and outcomes of patients with COVID-19 managed with invasive mechanical ventilation in an appropriately ...Outcomes of mechanically ventilated patients with COVID-19 associated respiratory failure
The outcomes of patients requiring invasive mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 remain poorly defined. We sought to determine clinical characteristics and outcomes of patients with COVID-19 managed with invasive mechanical ventilation in an appropriately ...
mortality rates range from 50–97% in those requiring mechanical ventilation.
ICU and ventilator mortality among critically ill adults with COVID-19
We report preliminary data from a cohort of adults admitted to COVID-designated intensive care units from March 6 through April 17, 2020 across an academic healthcare system. Among 217 critically ill patients, mortality for those who required mechanical ...
A recently published report from New York also found high mortality of 88.1% among those who required mechanical ventilation.4
I'd say the guy in question was bloodied by a shotgun, but that's just me.
How can we separate died from covid, died with covid, or died from the treatment of covid?
I do not think the data is available or reliable.
Those vaxed who die a sudden death(usually heart or cancer related) can be separated. Those like the reporter I just posted deserve to be mocked in death. Sorry not sorry. They bought the socialist/WEF line(as pointed out in this article they OWN pretty much every medical journal and have since before 2020 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/globalists-new-weapon ). They wanted to put us in camps, ban us from daily life, and destroy careers. That what they pushed killed them, DESERVES to be mocked, even in death. What about those who called to have kids removed from parents for failing to get vaccinated. Not sorry at all when I see one of them drop from their 8th booster.
It needs to be a lesson for society and those who pushed this have to learn to listen to a view other than what they are told, for it to be any different next time and they are already planning even worse for killer X and spending billions on it,but do not even know what it is. EVERY mainstream media channel is already pushing fear of it (also pointed out in the link above) without a single case. Screw these people and those who support them.
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For the purpose of this rabbit trail, I don't think we need to. It is enough to know that some people died from Covid, some people died of other causes while also having Covid, some people died from Covid treatments, and some people died from Covid vaccine adverse events.
What matters is, in fact, that we don't know how or why everyone died, so it is specious to drag anyone for having died from Covid or from the vaccine. Personally, I think it is somewhat ghoulish to drag people for having died, period.
Not after what they did.
LA Times calls for death of anti-vax DA from COVID to be 'mocked'
Kelly Ernby's death from COVID on January 2 sparked widespread derision online, due to her outspoken opposition to vaccine mandates and refusal to get vaccinated herself.
WHO declares war on unvaccinated people, likens them to murderers by calling them “a major killing force globally” – NaturalNews.com
The World Health Organization (WHO) published a video to its Twitter page recently that basically calls unvaccinated people murderers. The clip features the infamous Dr. Peter Hotez declaring that “anti-vaccine activism” is “anti-science aggression.” Hotez also stated that those who refuse covid...
CNN's Don Lemon calls on Americans to shun 'stupid' unvaccinated people: 'Leave them behind'
CNN host Don Lemon went off in a disparaging rant Wednesday as he called on Americans to shun "stupid" unvaccinated people, claiming they should be left behind because they were being "harmful to the greater good."
Noam Chomsky calls for unvaccinated to be ‘isolated’ from society
Noam Chomsky has argued that those who do not get vaccines should be “isolated” from others. In an interview recorded earlier this year, which went viral last month, the 92-year-old philosopher offered his views on mandating vaccines and while disagreeing with the policy, suggested those who...
www.independent.co.uk
Video Of Sean Penn Calling For The Unvaccinated To Be Imprisoned And Jobless Resurfaces
Resurfaced video of Hollywood actor and radical activist Sean Penn shows the actor calling for the unvaccinated to be imprisoned and jobless.
boundingintocomics.com
Cuomo warns unvaccinated people could kill grandmas | Fox News
Janice Dean says Cuomo 'has some nerve shaming others for possibly endangering their grandparents'
AMA Calls for Vaccine Mandates; 'Blame the Unvaccinated Folks'; Colo. Plague Death
A daily roundup of news on COVID-19 and the rest of medicine
www.medpagetoday.com
CBS panel berates 'perverted idea of freedom,' suggest unvaccinated embrace a 'freedom' to kill
A panel on “CBS Mornings” criticized unvaccinated Americans by claiming they value their freedom to kill over public health.
It's time to start shunning the 'vaccine hesitant.' They're blocking COVID herd immunity.
Enough analysis of these human petri dishes. Everyone who wants a vaccine will soon have one, and proof should be required to work, play and travel.
www.usatoday.com
That is just a quick google search. There were thousands of such statements.
COVID-19: Democratic Voters Support Harsh Measures Against Unvaccinated
While many voters have become skeptical toward the federal government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, a majority of Democrats embrace restrictive policies, including punitive measures against those who haven’t gotten the COVID-19 vaccine.
Top Democrat Doctor Calls for Unvaccinated To Be Shot to Death in Nazi-Style Executions
A top Democrat doctor has called for Nazi-style executions of unvaccinated citizens in America.
thepeoplesvoice.tv
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Are you conflating these people - who absolutely deserve opprobrium - with every vaccinated person who dies, ever? Or even every celebrity who pushed the vaccine but then died from something completely unrelated?Not after what they did.
LA Times calls for death of anti-vax DA from COVID to be 'mocked'
Kelly Ernby's death from COVID on January 2 sparked widespread derision online, due to her outspoken opposition to vaccine mandates and refusal to get vaccinated herself.www.dailymail.co.uk
WHO declares war on unvaccinated people, likens them to murderers by calling them “a major killing force globally” – NaturalNews.com
The World Health Organization (WHO) published a video to its Twitter page recently that basically calls unvaccinated people murderers. The clip features the infamous Dr. Peter Hotez declaring that “anti-vaccine activism” is “anti-science aggression.” Hotez also stated that those who refuse covid...www.naturalnews.com
CNN's Don Lemon calls on Americans to shun 'stupid' unvaccinated people: 'Leave them behind'
CNN host Don Lemon went off in a disparaging rant Wednesday as he called on Americans to shun "stupid" unvaccinated people, claiming they should be left behind because they were being "harmful to the greater good."www.foxnews.com
Noam Chomsky calls for unvaccinated to be ‘isolated’ from society
Noam Chomsky has argued that those who do not get vaccines should be “isolated” from others. In an interview recorded earlier this year, which went viral last month, the 92-year-old philosopher offered his views on mandating vaccines and while disagreeing with the policy, suggested those who...
Video Of Sean Penn Calling For The Unvaccinated To Be Imprisoned And Jobless Resurfaces
Resurfaced video of Hollywood actor and radical activist Sean Penn shows the actor calling for the unvaccinated to be imprisoned and jobless.boundingintocomics.com
Cuomo warns unvaccinated people could kill grandmas | Fox News
Janice Dean says Cuomo 'has some nerve shaming others for possibly endangering their grandparents'
AMA Calls for Vaccine Mandates; 'Blame the Unvaccinated Folks'; Colo. Plague Death
A daily roundup of news on COVID-19 and the rest of medicine
Some even had zero problem murdering people because they were not vaccinated.CBS panel berates 'perverted idea of freedom,' suggest unvaccinated embrace a 'freedom' to kill
A panel on “CBS Mornings” criticized unvaccinated Americans by claiming they value their freedom to kill over public health.
It's time to start shunning the 'vaccine hesitant.' They're blocking COVID herd immunity.
Enough analysis of these human petri dishes. Everyone who wants a vaccine will soon have one, and proof should be required to work, play and travel.www.usatoday.com
That is just a quick google search. There were thousands of such statements.
Do we mock dictators? Murders? Or do we make excuses for them?
Because that's where I take issue.
Again: we're talking about someone being dragged for dying while being a vaccine promoter - but who died from a self-inflicted shotgun wound.
don't let facts ruin a perfectly good conspiracy.
This seems relevant given where the discussion is going:
From the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus said,
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
Matthew 5:43-48 NIV
From the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus said,
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
Matthew 5:43-48 NIV
Your whole argument here is based on one (1) comment, and it was in purple.
“Trying to get ahead of the blood clots and myocarditis”.
And it was funny.
Maybe not funny to someone whose has a change of mind, change of heart, from their initial position; but to many of us funny; those who thought is was at least suspicious from the get go.
It appears you’ve had somewhat of a change of heart, or mellowed on your initial views, but we’re not you and don’t understand the full breadth of that.
All we remember is where you stood in the heat of this matter, and many replies to you, I suspect, are based on what we think we know about you, from the perspective of where you were.
I will be honest. If they promoted the idea that being vaccinated made you a better human than being unvaccinated I do not care why they died. I am just glad they are gone. I am fed up with mini tyrants, spreading fear, and piling on hate by people that think they made the right choice by getting vaccinated and anyone who did not was less than human(a common tactic in wars throughout history).
I did not get vaccinated(came weeks away from getting the J&J) At the start of all of this I was pushing for people to get masks,supplies, ect...over 2 months before the first lock downs,before the USA had a single case(based on what I was reading in journals). I kept learning though. I was open to the idea I was wrong, and I was wrong and admitted it publicly(on INGO the same place I was screaming fire for awhile). I kept my critical thought process open to new information. Those who did not and blocked out all information they did not want to hear, while spreading hate and fear are not going to get my sympathy. I and many others will forever remember them as hateful, dehumanizing, intolerant, and unforgivable tyrants, based solely on the information they believed to be true.
In the end I guess not everyone can live with themselves when they realize what they became. Your example included, but that still gets zero forgiveness from me.
Oh, and the WEF gets a special fku. They controlled(and still do) almost every journal, every media source, and have/had great influence over corporations and governments. They caused this. They pushed the hate(but individual people did not have to go along). They caused the divide. In the end they are likely the most responsible for every death. Without them a bat lab in Wuhan would not have been funded to work on corona viruses to begin with.
I hate no one. It really is not in me. That said I do not and likely will never forgive those who went along with what history will likely record as the start of the fall of the western world and since WEF and people like them will record and write that history they will blame the disease, not those that caused everything that happened during and after. That is how far I have thought ahead about this. I can at least bear witness and not forgive that crime.
CDC Labeled Accurate Articles As Misinformation, Documents Show | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
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Which views of mine, specifically, are you referring to?
Luke 22:36
“He said to them, ‘But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one
I think the reason that critical thinking people lean that way is because of outrageous very high number of deaths associated with being vaccinated. It wouldn't even surprise me if the San Diego County medical examiner lied about his cause of death in some sort of coverup. About everything related to vaccines has been a lie and there have been plenty of celebrity deaths lied about ...Hank Aaron, Bob Saget, Gilbert Godfrey, etc.
I believe in Ed Dowds research and numbers of increased all cause mortality based off of insurance actuarial data in the US and UK.
Americans with grit will continue to point these facts out to those wanting to forget. Again it may save their life since the evil agenda has not ended and is being prepped for round 2. Sheep will continue to be sheep.
Highlighting those with a nefarious agenda is one thing, and should be done. But there are many people who were naive, misguided, deceived, etc. You may choose to lump them all together; I see no benefit in that.
It's not about wanting to forget; no one should want that. It is about saving the ire for those who deserve it.
Again: the genesis of this discussion is a person who committed suicide by shotgun. His death had absolutely nothing to do with Covid or the Covid vaccine. IMHO, people who cheer his death, merely because he was vaccinated, are no better than those who cheered the death of those with Covid.
I'm not sure how that is relevant, but sure.
I see no reason to exempt the naive,misguided,or deceived. I after all was one of them, well before most even knew what sars-cov-2(Hcov19) was. I do not go around making fun of people who die just because they are vaccinated. That would be more or less inhuman.
But if you pushed others to get vaccinated, wanted to harm unvaccinated, called for their death or imprisonment, threatened their jobs or families, called for them to be excluded from society, dismissed them from the military, called unvaccinated stupid or other names, in short tried to bully anyone to get the vaccine...those I will mock, not because it feels good.
It needs to be done. People who did those things need to understand what they did/are doing, and many do not(a few have asked for forgiveness...again NO). Public ridicule even after death of that group needs to happen, so the remainders of it get the message "never again and you can stop now". Every day thousands of American's go to work STILL to push the message to get your covid shot or booster(I noticed it changed from Covid vaccine(which it never was) awhile back on most ad spots). It needs to be stopped. They need to stop. Those who wanted the shot have had it. So why waste hundreds of millions of dollars on pushing those who declined the shot(or are not fully boostered) to get it?
Mocking those that deserve it likely woke some people up. Hopefully they live a normal happy life even if they got the shots, but they should learn a lesson from this. Stop trusting them and help push back against the tyranny.
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