Beer Virus V

[nonobaddog]

Nothing to debunk yet, right now it's all wishful preliminary democrat projections.

Right! Since the 2019 numbers are not even official yet, it will be at least a year from now before there are any real numbers to talk about. There might be preliminary numbers tossed out there but it is getting so you can't trust a f****** thing anymore (except stuff on INGO, of course).

 

[HoughMade]

hehehe

My wife and I have observed that, too.

One interesting thing will be how many 2021 deaths 2020 "stole".

 

[T.Lex]

One interesting thing will be how many 2021 deaths 2020 "stole".

The quantum of proof appears to be a "credible claim." Once a "credible claim" of theft has been made, the burden shifts to the other side to prove there wasn't a theft.

Sorry, wrong thread.

 

[drillsgt]

One interesting thing will be how many 2021 deaths 2020 "stole".

That's a good point.

 

[JettaKnight]

One interesting thing will be how many 2021 deaths 2020 "stole".

I'm sure we'll see videos of bodies under tables.

 

[HoughMade]

I'm sure we'll see videos of bodies under tables.

 

[JCSR]

Covid must be getting worse in my area. On my way into town this morning I saw two refrigerated trucks waiting in a vacant lot. One was disguised as a Miller Lite hauler and the other had Dewig Meats on the side. I was not fooled. Cancel Christmas, New Years and hide in your homes people!

 

[qwerty]

So they broke what the program automatically calculates......

State has been reporting inaccurate COVID-19 positivity rate due to computational error

 

[foszoe]

I'm sure we'll see videos of bodies under tables.

If so and there's no coroner to observe it, did it really happen?

 

[foszoe]

Covid must be getting worse in my area. On my way into town this morning I saw two refrigerated trucks waiting in a vacant lot. One was disguised as a Miller Lite hauler and the other had Dewig Meats on the side. I was not fooled. Cancel Christmas, New Years and hide in your homes people!

Yeah. Just heard 3 died from COVID-19 In the same immediate family last week. 4th died driving to the funeral.

 

[JCSR]

Yeah. Just heard 3 died from COVID-19 In the same immediate family last week. 4th died driving to the funeral.

Were they hit by a refrigerated truck?

 

[foszoe]

We they hit by a refrigerated truck?

Not sure but it was in WV. Guy I played BB with so nowhere near what you saw.

 

[drillsgt]

So they broke what the program automatically calculates......

State has been reporting inaccurate COVID-19 positivity rate due to computational error

Maybe it's the same software that handled Trump votes.

 

[BugI02]

I skipped a bunch of posts, so apologies if this was covered. Can someone explain to me how a mutation can be 70%/50%/xx% "more transmissible"?

Does that mean that it takes 50% less viral load to infect someone? Or that instead of 6 ft. away, we should be 12 ft. away? (Or is it 9 ft.?)

I understand the R-factor is probably where they're getting that calculation, but that signals how fast the virus is spreading overall. It doesn't speak to the changes in the virus itself.

To put it another way, there may be a correlation/causation problem. This mutated strain is being transmitted across the population at a higher rate (50% faster), but it may not actually be due to the mutation.

Last night on the news, they asked the in-house science-y guy about it and he basically gave the verbal equivalent of a shrug, along with something along the lines about how we need to do more research on it. Not helpful.

The way I understand it is there were a couple of mutations in the spike proteins that enhanced their ability to bind with human ACE2. I'm not sure if the 70% just is a quantification of this increased affinity relative to the previously dominant strain or if it is some sort of measure of the enhanced likelihood of an infection. They are unclear, and if the latter I would be curious how they derived such a result. I will see if I can find the source I was using

Edit:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...om-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear
Mutant coronavirus in the United Kingdom sets off alarms, but its importance remains unclear

 

[jamil]

All I know is that I've never seen so many of my friends who describe themselves as "conservative" complaining about not getting a bigger check from the government.

Since the government kinda got people into some of the predicaments they're in, I'm okay with helping out the people who lost their jobs or businesses because of shutdowns. Instead of giving everyone a check, just target people who need help.

 

[jamil]

https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

Leaving here for debunking

Fact check: Trueish.

 

[BugI02]

https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

Leaving here for debunking

Our worldometers derived CFR drops to 1.77%, Germany's rises to 1.81% fro 1.76% a week ago

 

[nonobaddog]

Since the government kinda got people into some of the predicaments they're in, I'm okay with helping out the people who lost their jobs or businesses because of shutdowns. Instead of giving everyone a check, just target people who need help.

They are trying to do that with enhanced and extended unemployment benefits as well as small business aid and paycheck protection plans and otherwise just handing out money to favorite businesses.

I think it is beyond their abilities to do it very well though.

 

[JettaKnight]

Since the government kinda got people into some of the predicaments they're in, I'm okay with helping out the people who lost their jobs or businesses because of shutdowns. Instead of giving everyone a check, just target people who need help.

It's really, really hard to target like that (i.e. you spend time and money on the bureaucracy). Obama's administration tried a more targeted approach and many economist agree now that the best course is just money out into the economy quickly.

 

[actaeon277]

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